What's The Average Income of A Sharp Pro Gambler????

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  • durito
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 07-03-06
    • 13173

    #141
    Originally posted by Ice House
    magynuck you do this for a living?

    care to start sharing your picks?
    always the same replies with you morons
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    • pavyracer
      SBR Aristocracy
      • 04-12-07
      • 82486

      #142
      I would like to know what's the average debt a sharp pro gambler accumulates through his lifetime.
      Last edited by pavyracer; 07-13-11, 11:51 AM.
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      • Legions36
        SBR MVP
        • 12-17-10
        • 3032

        #143
        Originally posted by Demonata
        I believe it's good to sports bet and have a job. Just think if you work full time and make even 30k a year than you make around 50k sports betting all the sports betting is free money. Than make enough money to put it in a bank cd and make guaranteed money off the interest. After you have enough money in bank cds than you are set. I sports bet to get enough money to invest in cds etc. Not too mention it's fun and makes games more interesting to win. Some sports are so easy to make money betting on. Such as tennis where if it's a big tournament like Wimbledon and you bet on the favored player as long as the line is 1.5 you can make good money because the favored players almost all win in the first round. I made around 10 k betting on the first round of wimbledon.
        Yeah smart call take your $ and have it tied up in cds for long periods of time. Sorry to say but i dont want my $ tied up for long periods of time, i can make more having it working than to have it sitting in there for chump change but i guess thats just me. And why the hell would anyone want to waist their time with a job like that when they can make more doing other things, sh-it i would rather put in extra time playing poker than go work for someone else but like i said thats just the way i look at it.
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        • Demonata
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          • 07-12-11
          • 25829

          #144
          Originally posted by Legions36
          Yeah smart call take your $ and have it tied up in cds for long periods of time. Sorry to say but i dont want my $ tied up for long periods of time, i can make more having it working than to have it sitting in there for chump change but i guess thats just me. And why the hell would anyone want to waist their time with a job like that when they can make more doing other things, sh-it i would rather put in extra time playing poker than go work for someone else but like i said thats just the way i look at it.
          Cds are more guaranteed than poker in my opinion. I just like to play it safe. If you have enough money in Cds the interest you get back monthly is fine. Most people can't afford to have a lot of money in cds so I see where you are coming from. Well jobs are the best way to get medical, dental and other insurances than paying for them outright. I make money renting out duplexes,sports betting, working and investing in cds. More streams of income the better.
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          • mangina11
            SBR Sharp
            • 02-01-10
            • 397

            #145
            Too of a range, I consider myself a pro and I'm lose 69.69 a year
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            • CanuckG
              SBR Posting Legend
              • 12-23-10
              • 21976

              #146
              That 10k number is BS. Especially if you're using A+ books like Pinnacle, The Greek or 5Dimes.
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              • Demonata
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                • 07-12-11
                • 25829

                #147
                Originally posted by CanuckG
                That 10k number is BS. Especially if you're using A+ books like Pinnacle, The Greek or 5Dimes.
                Believe what you want. I use 4 sportsbooks and always bet around the same on each depending on what my A,B and C bets are. You must not of watched Wimbledon. Almost all the favored players won.
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                • CanuckG
                  SBR Posting Legend
                  • 12-23-10
                  • 21976

                  #148
                  I was referring to those A+ books cutting your limits after winning 10k off them...
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                  • Legions36
                    SBR MVP
                    • 12-17-10
                    • 3032

                    #149
                    Originally posted by Demonata
                    Cds are more guaranteed than poker in my opinion. I just like to play it safe. If you have enough money in Cds the interest you get back monthly is fine. Most people can't afford to have a lot of money in cds so I see where you are coming from. Well jobs are the best way to get medical, dental and other insurances than paying for them outright. I make money renting out duplexes,sports betting, working and investing in cds. More streams of income the better.
                    Well u do your thing and i will do mine. Their is so many other more profitable faster ways of making money than leaving it in some cd, yes your right about being safe and to have a few here and their wont hurt. Poker is guaranteed money maybe not daily but if u look at in the big picture then u will understand, i can make more $ playing poker 40 hours a week than any other job working somewhere else. Like i said before with what i do it is in no way profitable for me to keep large amounts of $ in cds when i can use it for other things and maybe double my $ fast. Hey im also willing to here some things i can do to make more $ legit as your right more streams are good and im willing to invest some parts.
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                    • wantitall4moi
                      SBR MVP
                      • 04-17-10
                      • 3063

                      #150
                      I have an idea anyone with the patience to book all the plays SBR guys make a year would more than likely surpass all estimates seen in this thread.

                      Its plain to see why books win and people lose, so many people trying to impress random other losers on a forum dont have the emotional make up to succeed at gambling long term. That is why these degenerate poker players people idolize are all mostly broke, or one step away from being so deep in debt they wont see the light of day. Ivey however had his golden parachute and scam helping him out, but I wouldnt be surprised to see him being backed by a few guys in the not too distant future. Once all that sponsor money and book money and whatever other money they have coming in dries up and they have to rely strictly on gambling winnings to live the lifestyle they have become accustomed to it will be very interesting.
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                      • v1y
                        SBR MVP
                        • 05-02-11
                        • 1138

                        #151
                        Originally posted by vyomguy
                        98% of the SBR posters haven't won more than $5000 in their lives in sports betting. Obviously, they are skeptical about people winning 200k in a year. You are talking to people who almost never cash out. Spend you time more wisely instead of making these posters understand.
                        pretty sad if i'm in the top 2%

                        As for brahmabull, he doesn't seem to understand the idea that just because your prediction came true, doesn't mean that you "knew it would happen".
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                        • v1y
                          SBR MVP
                          • 05-02-11
                          • 1138

                          #152
                          Originally posted by sharpcat
                          If the market doesn't agree with your price evaluation by the time the line closes you are wrong!!!
                          This is probably very true for nba/nfl/mlb/nhl but for some more obscure sports, this is definitely nonsense.
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                          • diondublin
                            SBR High Roller
                            • 04-16-10
                            • 160

                            #153
                            Originally posted by brahmabull117
                            brah I used to make 50,000 a year selling phones at Sprint



                            a world class (top 5%) sports gambler makes the same money as a guy selling cell phones????

                            The gambler presumably enjoys his work!
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                            • Hareeba!
                              BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                              • 07-01-06
                              • 36790

                              #154
                              Originally posted by diondublin
                              The gambler presumably enjoys his work!

                              and most probably doesn't pay tax
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                              • jujujojo
                                SBR Rookie
                                • 06-04-11
                                • 42

                                #155
                                Good sports tipsters have a Return on Invetsment of 20%.
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                                • jujujojo
                                  SBR Rookie
                                  • 06-04-11
                                  • 42

                                  #156
                                  Originally posted by brahmabull117
                                  yea it is it's impossible to find 10 matchups a day that have tremendous value, much less 50 that's the reason why most of this forum never makes money. You feel the need to bet on every game so you bet on a bunch of garbage matchups with little hope of winning
                                  I agree.
                                  The bests tipsters i know makes between 10 and 20 bets per month.
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                                  • Hareeba!
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                                    • 07-01-06
                                    • 36790

                                    #157
                                    Originally posted by jujujojo
                                    I agree.
                                    The bests tipsters i know makes between 10 and 20 bets per month.
                                    If they are that selective they are leaving money on the table.

                                    20% profit on turnover is too high

                                    They are wasting the opportunity to make twice as much money by accepting lesser yet still worthwhile overlays
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                                    • DustyRhodes
                                      SBR Sharp
                                      • 07-07-11
                                      • 406

                                      #158
                                      It is def less than 5%
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                                      • wiffle
                                        SBR Wise Guy
                                        • 07-07-10
                                        • 610

                                        #159
                                        Originally posted by jujujojo
                                        Good sports tipsters have a Return on Invetsment of 20%.
                                        wat
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                                        • jujujojo
                                          SBR Rookie
                                          • 06-04-11
                                          • 42

                                          #160
                                          Originally posted by Hareeba!
                                          If they are that selective they are leaving money on the table. 20% profit on turnover is too high They are wasting the opportunity to make twice as much money by accepting lesser yet still worthwhile overlays
                                          10-20 bets / month / sport.
                                          I'm sure some people have an ROI>20% in sports betting (in my opinion it is very difficult).
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                                          • Emily_Haines
                                            SBR Posting Legend
                                            • 04-14-09
                                            • 15917

                                            #161
                                            Originally posted by jjgold
                                            lucky if its 40k-60k a year and you put in a ton of hrs
                                            BINGO

                                            You used to be able to make 100+. Back in the olden days you used to be able to get down 1000 on a CBB opening total and now it's down to a 100 and that is if your lucky enough to have a Pinny account. All that CBB total stuff has dried up.

                                            You could also make an easy 10-20K betting RAS stuff now you never get the released number plus I think he is finding it is not as easy to beat anymore.

                                            Hard to find reduced juice books as a US resident so your always betting -110.
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                                            • durito
                                              SBR Posting Legend
                                              • 07-03-06
                                              • 13173

                                              #162
                                              get better
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                                              • Scooter
                                                SBR MVP
                                                • 01-15-07
                                                • 1159

                                                #163
                                                Demonata - "Cds are more guaranteed than poker in my opinion."

                                                Annual percentage rate of 1.01% to 2.49% is not very exciting.
                                                Last edited by Scooter; 07-14-11, 11:50 PM.
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                                                • RickySteve
                                                  Restricted User
                                                  • 01-31-06
                                                  • 3415

                                                  #164
                                                  95th percentile would be around $275.00.
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                                                  • Balco10
                                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                                    • 09-11-10
                                                    • 5478

                                                    #165
                                                    Originally posted by brahmabull117
                                                    u can make 200-300 grand a year and not get kicked out of sportsbooks for making too much money???


                                                    I ask cause I'm making about 140 k a year right now in sales. That's very enticing

                                                    What are you selling in this economy to make 150k?
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                                                    • Demonata
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                                                      • 07-12-11
                                                      • 25829

                                                      #166
                                                      Originally posted by Legions36
                                                      Well u do your thing and i will do mine. Their is so many other more profitable faster ways of making money than leaving it in some cd, yes your right about being safe and to have a few here and their wont hurt. Poker is guaranteed money maybe not daily but if u look at in the big picture then u will understand, i can make more $ playing poker 40 hours a week than any other job working somewhere else. Like i said before with what i do it is in no way profitable for me to keep large amounts of $ in cds when i can use it for other things and maybe double my $ fast. Hey im also willing to here some things i can do to make more $ legit as your right more streams are good and im willing to invest some parts.
                                                      Yes, what I'm trying to refer t is you may make more playing poker but with a cd I don't have to do anything. I just get the money monthly.
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                                                      • Demonata
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                                                        • 07-12-11
                                                        • 25829

                                                        #167
                                                        Originally posted by Scooter
                                                        Demonata - "Cds are more guaranteed than poker in my opinion."

                                                        Annual percentage rate of 1.01% to 2.49% is not very exciting.
                                                        It is if you don't have to do anything to get it, so I can concentrate on other ways to make money...

                                                        P.S Why would I deposit in a cd that would only pay 1.01%? There are a lot of cds with a higher rate than that.
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                                                        • Scooter
                                                          SBR MVP
                                                          • 01-15-07
                                                          • 1159

                                                          #168
                                                          Originally posted by Demonata
                                                          Yes, what I'm trying to refer t is you may make more playing poker but with a cd I don't have to do anything. I just get the money monthly.
                                                          The best CD rate I see after doing a Google search is 2.49% annually.

                                                          "I just get the money monthly".

                                                          20/100 of 1% per month. Whoopee!
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                                                          • Demonata
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                                                            • 07-12-11
                                                            • 25829

                                                            #169
                                                            Originally posted by Scooter
                                                            The best CD rate I see after doing a Google search is 2.49% annually.

                                                            "I just get the money monthly".

                                                            20/100 of 1% per month. Whoopee!
                                                            No, what matters is the rate. Some Cds I am in pay around 2% monthly and then at the end of the term I get my deposit. Also am in some 3% ones. You have no experience in Cds so please try not to make yourself think you do. Thanks.
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                                                            • sharpcat
                                                              Restricted User
                                                              • 12-19-09
                                                              • 4516

                                                              #170
                                                              Originally posted by Demonata
                                                              Yes, what I'm trying to refer t is you may make more playing poker but with a cd I don't have to do anything. I just get the money monthly.
                                                              Why would you want to put $50K in a CD with a 2.5% return annually when you could take that $50K and wager it 100 times over a year with an expected return of even just 1%?

                                                              2.5% of $50k= $1,250

                                                              1% of $50k X 100= $50,000

                                                              Too many people who do not know squat about gambling professionally or finances commenting in this thread as is always the case with these types of threads.

                                                              98% of those who have contributed to this thread have no more than $2k offshore yet are quick to act like they have a clue
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                                                              • Scooter
                                                                SBR MVP
                                                                • 01-15-07
                                                                • 1159

                                                                #171
                                                                Originally posted by Demonata
                                                                No, what matters is the rate. Some Cds I am in pay around 2% monthly and then at the end of the term I get my deposit. Also am in some 3% ones. You have no experience in Cds so please try not to make yourself think you do. Thanks.


                                                                Since US Bank CD's pay at best 10% or less of what you are quoting, it would make sense that the CD's you are investing in are extremely risky.

                                                                A Google search has turned up Bank South Pacific, located in New Guinea, pays 7.75% on a 12 month CD.I suspect that Bank South Pacific does not guarantee it's CD's nor anything else.
                                                                And there would probably be Currency Exchange fees on both ends of the transaction.

                                                                And this rate is less than 1/4 of your 36% annual rate.

                                                                Is the Fund Manager's last name Madoff? Ponzi?
                                                                Are they represented by the Law Firm of Dewey Cheatum and Howe?


                                                                Can you give some more info on CD's paying 24% to 36% annually?
                                                                I'd be happy to learn of investments returning more than 100% over 3 years.

                                                                Any info on the default rate of such investments?
                                                                Last edited by Scooter; 07-15-11, 04:21 AM.
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                                                                • sharlataans
                                                                  SBR MVP
                                                                  • 08-13-10
                                                                  • 1927

                                                                  #172
                                                                  It is just matter of how many books you have access to.

                                                                  1 Book - 100,000
                                                                  2 Books - 200,000
                                                                  ...

                                                                  Being pro gambler is easy
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                                                                  • noober
                                                                    SBR MVP
                                                                    • 10-23-09
                                                                    • 2012

                                                                    #173
                                                                    I think the sky is the limit for a European gambler. If you are extremely good you can make over 10 millions. The problem is being that good.
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                                                                    • wantitall4moi
                                                                      SBR MVP
                                                                      • 04-17-10
                                                                      • 3063

                                                                      #174
                                                                      This thread is still going?

                                                                      here it is in a nutshell....

                                                                      "professional" gambling is all but dead. reduced limits everywhere, books with shit limits to begin with, inability to bet over night lines for anything more than cab fare, and half the supposed A+ rated books on shakey financial ground at best. Vegas is no better. Limits there are a joke, other than maybe a one or two shot deal if they have never seen you before and they need the action, but in terms of ability to make consistant bets in order to secure a modest expectation forget about it.

                                                                      I know people still like to live on the fantasies of the stories that get perpetuated here, but the same tired stories just prove how clueless those people are. If gambling were so great and these so called legends do/did so great at it why did they all look for easier ways to make money? Even these poker players, all invested in (got into offshore places to steal from people), or signed book deals, or got paid for appearance fees, tried to do TV, or whatever else they tried to do other than simply playing cards. It basically shows that gambling, even at these high levels isnt all its cracked up to be and stealing from other or using other peoples money or getting paid for your name or picture is still a better gig.

                                                                      Bottomline is anyone who ever posted about sweating out some 9th inning comeback, or needed a 9th inning comeback, or a late FG or interception isnt close to a pro gambler and is barely a gambler at all, especially if they have to talk abot it or cry about it. Because no game any pro has is more or less important than any other. Or it shouldn't be. having a big score isnt the way REAL professional gamblers operate. Unless it is a one in a million scenario where you get a team for large odds in a future bet and they by some miracle come through. But in reality that doesnt make you a pro either, just means you paid attention and got lucky. But shows that being lucky is better than being good.

                                                                      So anytime I hear about some guy who made a 100K score or whatever, I know they have to make about 50 more just to be even or close to it, and had they never gambled in the first place they would be much better off.

                                                                      So just let this thread die already. it really is embarrassing and proofs out the general intelligence level of the average forum poster as well as their naivete when it comes to the one thing they generally try to profess some 'expertise' in...namely gambling.
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                                                                      • Hareeba!
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                                                                        • 07-01-06
                                                                        • 36790

                                                                        #175
                                                                        Originally posted by wantitall4moi
                                                                        This thread is still going?

                                                                        here it is in a nutshell....

                                                                        "professional" gambling is all but dead. reduced limits everywhere, books with shit limits to begin with, inability to bet over night lines for anything more than cab fare, and half the supposed A+ rated books on shakey financial ground at best. Vegas is no better. Limits there are a joke, other than maybe a one or two shot deal if they have never seen you before and they need the action, but in terms of ability to make consistant bets in order to secure a modest expectation forget about it.
                                                                        Maybe true if you are in the US, but certainly far from the truth if you live in the free world.
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