Changes coming to the SBR Points program, August 1st.

**mwgriffin** · 07-31-11, 06:58 AM

will the casino ever payout, or just keep taking my points like usual?

**noober** · 07-31-11, 07:22 AM

so the changes will take effect tomorrow?

**Mammon** · 07-31-11, 07:59 AM

Interesting. Can we add Camp Erin to the Charities?

**no1here** · 07-31-11, 09:16 AM

5x's rollover is screwing many here as I have always gave them points but am being forced to stop. The rollover makes my poker points much more valuable being very tough to control.

What is the percentage of people capable of achieving 5x's rollover??? I am quite good and believe my changes of rollover is only 10-15% or less.

I see this as hurting poker as many will leave. I'm up to a boycott but don't believe one is possible as too many sick ones here.

**Br0nxer** · 07-31-11, 09:18 AM

200 dollar charitable contribution to who

**opie1988** · 07-31-11, 09:26 AM

Originally posted by Br0nxer

200 dollar charitable contribution to who

The Human Fund. "money for people."

**SBR_John** · 07-31-11, 10:37 AM

In the tech world a deadline apparently is an approximate date.

Changes will begin next week but they will be very subtle.

A couple of changes to the changes that have not been announced are;
points won in sports contests like beat the prick will have a 1x rollover, not 5x. points won in poker will have a 3x rollover, not 5x. Points won at trivia will not have a roll over.

Points will be sold and bought from those who qualify. Sorry no US citizens. Wait for the printed requirements on how to buy and sell because I do not know. To start with Moneybookers is the only processor we will have.

As far as the Pro program goes; you will be able to go Pro and renew in a number of ways. We have a couple of charities, at least one line service, 2 fantasy sites and of course the usual way with a sportsbook account.

That's about all I can remember. The changes will be implemented as they become ready during August.

**onlooker** · 07-31-11, 10:40 AM

Thanks for the update John.

Many will be happy to hear about the NO trivia rollover.

**yisman** · 07-31-11, 10:45 AM

Yeah the trivia one is huge because that's a bigger source of points than the rest of the stuff.

Also 3x rollover rather than 5 on poker is much better.

**chico2663** · 07-31-11, 10:48 AM

i can't wait to not have to speak

**mtneer1212** · 07-31-11, 10:58 AM

The major question will be with BEAT THE PRICK. If this contest becomes points only for US Citizens, then there is ZERO chance of me staying a pro.

**tblues2005** · 07-31-11, 11:00 AM

Thanks John for letting us know. The fantasy idea is good idea too. I love that idea to get that involved.

Is the Beat the Prick contest going to be announced next week also?

**benjy** · 07-31-11, 11:04 AM

Good changes. Thanks for the update.

**SBR_John** · 07-31-11, 11:05 AM

Originally posted by mtneer1212

The major question will be with BEAT THE PRICK. If this contest becomes points only for US Citizens, then there is ZERO chance of me staying a pro.

It will be all points. The end of the season prizes are all cash, $10,000 worth.

There are great things in the store. Something like 26+ gift cards like Walmart and everything else. Certainly you buy some things in the real world like grocerys, pizzas or cloths or something??

**yisman** · 07-31-11, 11:07 AM

John, you mean weekly prizes are points only?

**emoney** · 07-31-11, 11:13 AM

Originally posted by chico2663

i can't wait to not have to speak

I agree, should reduce useless posting.

**pavyracer** · 07-31-11, 11:49 AM

Originally posted by SBR_John

It will be all points. The end of the season prizes are all cash, $10,000 worth.

There are great things in the store. Something like 26+ gift cards like Walmart and everything else. Certainly you buy some things in the real world like grocerys, pizzas or cloths or something??

Then why don't you allow US posters to sell their points to renew for Pro membership? Saves the trouble of sending $200 to the sportsbook sponsoring the BTP.

For example you can buy a Pro membership at the Store for 1500 points.

**onlooker** · 07-31-11, 11:50 AM

Originally posted by yisman

John, you mean weekly prizes are points only?

Sounds like it Yisman.

**KKoz9** · 07-31-11, 11:50 AM

Thanks for the updates...seem much more reasonable.

Couple questions though:

1. I assume all points accrued prior to Aug 1 are exempt from rollover requirements?

2. As I'm getting close, what about anniversary points? Rollover required?

**SBR_John** · 07-31-11, 12:11 PM

No roll on points you have. No roll on anniversary awards either.

Keep in mind the rollover part of the program is ONLY on points won in some kind of contest. Daily points given for visiting have no rollover.

**thirtytwo** · 07-31-11, 12:22 PM

Thanks for info John.

**sportsfanatic** · 07-31-11, 12:22 PM

deleted. nvm.

**KKoz9** · 07-31-11, 12:26 PM

ok, thanks

**ireland1946** · 07-31-11, 12:38 PM

Originally posted by SBR_John

For players who so wish, the option to turn Pro by making a $200 a year charitable contribution will be made available. The regular option of depositing $200 in a sponsor sportsbook remains unchanged.

Eliminate points given for first post. We will increase the amount of points given for a login visit to compensate. Non pros will still get 6 points a day and Pro's will get 12. The only net effect is a visitor is not required or offered incentive to post. (the forums are plenty busy)

All poker contests will be given poker points as prizes. Prize levels will significantly increase as a result. Poker points must be rolled 5x in the open play ring games before they are transferred to the regular points wallet.

Sports and related contests will be given sportsbook points and casino points. All points awarded for logging into the site will be immediately available to purchase items in the store or transfer or any other action desired. After the rollover is met the points will be immediately transferred from the bonus wallet to the regular wallet.

There will be no semi annual price increase for mid 2011. Therefore there will be no increases until after the Superbowl in 2012. In the unlikely event there is no Superbowl, the date that there would have been a Superbowl is the day the next increase will be considered.

SBR will buy and sell SBR points. Sorry no US citizens may participate. Moneybookers and Neteller will be the only transfer options offered.

Where will the Poker Points (that you win in a Tourney) be held until the
Roll over is met?

**Mammon** · 07-31-11, 01:42 PM

I really want you to look into Camp Erin at theMoyerfoundation.org. I know Jamie Moyer and the director. Great cause and in every Mlb city.

**yisman** · 07-31-11, 01:58 PM

Originally posted by ireland1946

Where will the Poker Points (that you win in a Tourney) be held until the
Roll over is met?

There will be separate accounts for points requiring rollover.

There will be your normal points, points you keep in book that do not need rollover, and then there will be a 'casino' account (points that have be rolled in casino) and a 'poker' account (points that have to be rolled at poker tables).

**305GURU** · 07-31-11, 02:06 PM

have any idea when us customers will be able to participate

and how many login points for compensation

**SBR_John** · 07-31-11, 02:26 PM

Originally posted by ireland1946

Where will the Poker Points (that you win in a Tourney) be held until the
Roll over is met?

When you win in free SBR sponsored tourneys you will win "poker points". Poker points live in a special wallet in the poker program. They will automatically become full fledged and unrestricted points(and moved to your regular wallet) once you put them into the open table ring games with a 3x rollover. We want to promote more open table play.

On Beat The Prick; Yes, weekly will be points, 50,000 per week, yearly prizes will be paid in cash. Must be a Pro by the 4th week to qualify for year end prizes. Oh and Pro's win double on all weekly prizes.

**Ninersnut** · 07-31-11, 02:54 PM

Originally posted by SBR_John

When you win in free SBR sponsored tourneys you will win "poker points". Poker points live in a special wallet in the poker program. They will automatically become full fledged and unrestricted points(and moved to your regular wallet) once you put them into the open table ring games with a 3x rollover. We want to promote more open table play.

On Beat The Prick; Yes, weekly will be points, 50,000 per week, yearly prizes will be paid in cash. Must be a Pro by the 4th week to qualify for year end prizes. Oh and Pro's win double on all weekly prizes.

So many ppl will not be depositing for btp if it's just weekly point prizes

**tblues2005** · 07-31-11, 03:28 PM

Wow John on the football contest. All you need to do is give away some of those nice prizes like laptops for weekly prizes would be a very good idea and maybe free funds for fantasy games also. I do think points is a good idea as.long as the store has more options.

**Wrigley** · 07-31-11, 03:32 PM

glad to see they seperate the points that need to be rollover from those that dont

**sportsfanatic** · 07-31-11, 03:37 PM

winning the year end cash prizes is going to be so tough. wish this contest was pros only.

**katstale** · 07-31-11, 03:37 PM

Need Neteller or i will need to make friends with a canuck.

**SBR_John** · 07-31-11, 03:50 PM

Originally posted by sportsfanatic

winning the year end cash prizes is going to be so tough. wish this contest was pros only.

It will be Pro only for the $10,000 in year-end prizes.(Have to be Pro by the 4th week of the contest. Those who are not Pro by the 4th week will not be competing for the $10,000) Will be a great opportunity if the Pro numbers are way down.

On Neteller... we are trying to get them. But out of the gate all we will have is Moneybookers.

**mrmarket** · 07-31-11, 03:55 PM

Originally posted by SBR_John

It will be Pro only for the $10,000 in year-end prizes.(Have to be Pro by the 4th week of the contest. Those who are not Pro by the 4th week will not be competing for the $10,000) Will be a great opportunity if the Pro numbers are way down.

On Neteller... we are trying to get them. But out of the gate all we will have is Moneybookers.

Neteller is a good idea for non North Americans. I would like to suggest Insta-debit as a future option for us as well.