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  • Justin7
    SBR Hall of Famer
    • 07-31-06
    • 8577

    #1
    It's been a fun run...
    For 3 years, I put a lot of my vanilla plays in the SBR spreadsheet. Mainly sides and totals where the market allowed at least 1k for a single click. My goal in doing this was to show that anyone could beat these mid-sized markets who 1. handicapped, and 2. did a minimal amount of line shopping. After almost 1600 plays, it has shown an ROI of over 3%, which I consider a success. If you focused on props, futures, derivatives, you can do much better than 3% (but with smaller limits). In 3 years, I'd guess I've also answered perhaps a thousand questions on sports betting via pm or email, which I have always tried to do promptly.

    I am no longer putting plays in the spreadsheet. In the past, chasers were likely to win going forward, even at slightly worse numbers. Changes in my betting arrangements mean that anyone chasing these numbers is no longer likely to win going forward. This makes the picks useless to followers. My time commitments have gone up also.. I'll still answer questions, but not provoke as many with posted plays.

    Best of luck.
  • saints7011
    SBR Hall of Famer
    • 09-21-09
    • 5544

    #2
    justin7dotcom...

    we dont tout...

    we advise...
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    • LVBOUND
      SBR MVP
      • 07-25-08
      • 2658

      #3
      Sorry to hear this Justin you will be missed.
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      • mvp123
        SBR MVP
        • 07-24-06
        • 1736

        #4
        never knew you posted those plays, , i guesss imissed out , my bad as usual
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        • sideloaded
          SBR Hall of Famer
          • 08-21-10
          • 7561

          #5
          sbrjohn can no longer afford to pay justin7.
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          • Extra Innings
            SBR Posting Legend
            • 02-26-10
            • 15058

            #6
            Originally posted by LVBOUND
            Sorry to hear this Justin you will be missed.
            Originally posted by sideloaded
            sbrjohn can no longer afford to pay justin7.
            He is not leaving
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            • vyomguy
              SBR Hall of Famer
              • 12-08-09
              • 5794

              #7
              U wont be a moderator as well?.....or just stop posting plays?

              SBR has literally sucked the life out of me. I used to go out with friends, meet new people, see new places.

              Now all I do is sit in front of computer and post at SBR

              Good for you justin if you plan to quit SBR. Thanks for everything you have done to the forum
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              • sideloaded
                SBR Hall of Famer
                • 08-21-10
                • 7561

                #8
                Originally posted by Extra Innings
                He is not leaving
                did I say that?
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                • flyingillini
                  SBR Aristocracy
                  • 12-06-06
                  • 41219

                  #9
                  He never said he was leaving. Justin is still a part of SBR and that is not changing. He is a great asset to SBR.
                  המוסד‎
                  המוסד למודיעין ולתפקידים מיוחדים‎
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                  • sweethook
                    SBR Posting Legend
                    • 11-21-07
                    • 12667

                    #10
                    good luck with your new betting arrangements justin , im sure you will do great
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                    • iifold
                      SBR Posting Legend
                      • 04-25-10
                      • 11111

                      #11
                      spreadsheets are like freerolling...

                      if you win, you say "hey, look at me!!"...

                      if you lose, no one notices...

                      Try posting Royalty Plays and Lock Threads directed at Corbin on a daily basis Pal...

                      You'd be bald in a month from the stress...
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                      • Extra Innings
                        SBR Posting Legend
                        • 02-26-10
                        • 15058

                        #12
                        Not to be a jerk off but 5year CD's yield 2.4% / 2.5% with no risk/effort. What saith you?
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                        • NrmlCurvSurfr
                          SBR MVP
                          • 04-05-10
                          • 2896

                          #13
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                          • Extra Innings
                            SBR Posting Legend
                            • 02-26-10
                            • 15058

                            #14
                            Originally posted by sideloaded
                            did I say that?
                            It was an inference..."sbr-john can no longer pay justin7"...if they stop paying the guy he will no longer work here...he will leave.
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                            • flyingillini
                              SBR Aristocracy
                              • 12-06-06
                              • 41219

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Extra Innings
                              Not to be a jerk off but 5year CD's yield 2.4% / 2.5% with no risk/effort. What saith you?
                              EI, just invested in something that is paying off 12.5% but has a 5 year hold and a large minimum investment with an insane potential guey!
                              המוסד‎
                              המוסד למודיעין ולתפקידים מיוחדים‎
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                              • Extra Innings
                                SBR Posting Legend
                                • 02-26-10
                                • 15058

                                #16
                                Originally posted by flyingillini

                                EI, just invested in something that is paying off 12.5% but has a 5 year hold and a large minimum investment with an insane potential guey!
                                well im talking zero risk...yayo from Bolivia has risk.
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                                • daimoshokage
                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                  • 02-07-11
                                  • 8935

                                  #17
                                  Best of luck on your future Justin!
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                                  • flyingillini
                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                    • 12-06-06
                                    • 41219

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by Extra Innings
                                    well im talking zero risk...yayo from Bolivia has risk.
                                    Orale, completely legal with minimal risk but I always take risks.....Lots of opportunity in the "Ya Area"
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                                    המוסד למודיעין ולתפקידים מיוחדים‎
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                                    • vyomguy
                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                      • 12-08-09
                                      • 5794

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by Extra Innings
                                      Not to be a jerk off but 5year CD's yield 2.4% / 2.5% with no risk/effort. What saith you?
                                      u can get much higher % with no risk.
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                                      • chemicalbrother
                                        Restricted User
                                        • 01-26-11
                                        • 4086

                                        #20
                                        soooo....what? i mean, what does this mean?
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                                        • Extra Innings
                                          SBR Posting Legend
                                          • 02-26-10
                                          • 15058

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by vyomguy

                                          u can get much higher % with no risk.
                                          true...im just talking cd's but even the best gamblers are going to have down years unless Justin thinks he is Billy Walters
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                                          • sweethook
                                            SBR Posting Legend
                                            • 11-21-07
                                            • 12667

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by vyomguy
                                            U wont be a moderator as well?.....or just stop posting plays?

                                            SBR has literally sucked the life out of me. I used to go out with friends, meet new people, see new places.

                                            Now all I do is sit in front of computer and post at SBR

                                            Good for you justin if you plan to quit SBR. Thanks for everything you have done to the forum
                                            are you crazy ? i used to run the roads ,drink licker and whorehop so bad. and you would be to if it wasnt for sbr & friends. hell i even can spell a little better now , god bless sbr . . .an texas
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                                            • Extra Innings
                                              SBR Posting Legend
                                              • 02-26-10
                                              • 15058

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by sweethook
                                              are you crazy ? i used to run the roads ,drink licker and whorehop so bad. and you would be to if it wasnt for sbr & friends. god bless sbr . . .an texas
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                                              • tim0402
                                                SBR Sharp
                                                • 03-18-09
                                                • 492

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by vyomguy
                                                u can get much higher % with no risk.

                                                How is this? where do I go?
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                                                • Winner_13
                                                  SBR MVP
                                                  • 01-04-10
                                                  • 1744

                                                  #25
                                                  Justin7 you do too much already, thxs pal
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                                                  • tony_come
                                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                                    • 03-31-10
                                                    • 21695

                                                    #26
                                                    Nice to see you realized the fact
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                                                    • frankzig
                                                      SBR MVP
                                                      • 10-26-09
                                                      • 2268

                                                      #27
                                                      3 percent hardly seems worth the effort,let alone the possible loss of bankroll
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                                                      • doublej95
                                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                                        • 01-26-10
                                                        • 14094

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by frankzig
                                                        3 percent hardly seems worth the effort,let alone the possible loss of bankroll


                                                        my savings account is getting 2.5% and I don't have to waste time trying to pick a winner.
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                                                        • jjgold
                                                          SBR Aristocracy
                                                          • 07-20-05
                                                          • 388179

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by Justin7
                                                          For 3 years, I put a lot of my vanilla plays in the SBR spreadsheet. Mainly sides and totals where the market allowed at least 1k for a single click. My goal in doing this was to show that anyone could beat these mid-sized markets who 1. handicapped, and 2. did a minimal amount of line shopping. After almost 1600 plays, it has shown an ROI of over 3%, which I consider a success. If you focused on props, futures, derivatives, you can do much better than 3% (but with smaller limits). In 3 years, I'd guess I've also answered perhaps a thousand questions on sports betting via pm or email, which I have always tried to do promptly.

                                                          I am no longer putting plays in the spreadsheet. In the past, chasers were likely to win going forward, even at slightly worse numbers. Changes in my betting arrangements mean that anyone chasing these numbers is no longer likely to win going forward. This makes the picks useless to followers. My time commitments have gone up also.. I'll still answer questions, but not provoke as many with posted plays.

                                                          Best of luck.
                                                          All that money you invested and only 3 percent is not really good and plus add the time in

                                                          Use all that money and invest in real estate or Dow Stocks and in long run and your way ahead of the game compared to sports betting

                                                          Sports Betting is a good hobby but as far as making real money it is chump change
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                                                          • JR007
                                                            SBR Hall of Famer
                                                            • 02-21-10
                                                            • 5279

                                                            #30
                                                            Thanks justin: Learned a lot from your posts.....brilliant mind
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                                                            • wantitall4moi
                                                              SBR MVP
                                                              • 04-17-10
                                                              • 3063

                                                              #31
                                                              LOL I love all the investment advice in this thread.

                                                              I will just give generic reasons as to why people wouldnt invest in these so called 'you can get better rates on XXX' options. The 'safe' stuff with the best returns usually have minimum deposits amounts that 99.999999% of anyone that posts on a forum board has never seen let alone owned. Most of them lock it in with the inability to get at it, or if you do withdraw it you pay massive penalties, and lose much of if not all of the interest accrued. And then of course there are taxes, which will have to paid in a lot of these so called good investments. At least if you profit from them.

                                                              Those are just the basics. Obviously the more intricate you get them ore intricate the issues become. But if there were any safe option that would provide a lot more than 3% return most people would be doing them. Since there arent then it is safe to assume that the ones that are either arent legal, a scam, or require much more than the average person could provide.
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                                                              • Swinging Johnson
                                                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                • 08-12-09
                                                                • 7604

                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by sideloaded
                                                                did I say that?
                                                                Sideloaded...is that really your sister in your avatar? Incest is best.
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                                                                • Extra Innings
                                                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                                                  • 02-26-10
                                                                  • 15058

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by wantitall4moi
                                                                  LOL I love all the investment advice in this thread.

                                                                  I will just give generic reasons as to why people wouldnt invest in these so called 'you can get better rates on XXX' options. The 'safe' stuff with the best returns usually have minimum deposits amounts that 99.999999% of anyone that posts on a forum board has never seen let alone owned. Most of them lock it in with the inability to get at it, or if you do withdraw it you pay massive penalties, and lose much of if not all of the interest accrued. And then of course there are taxes, which will have to paid in a lot of these so called good investments. At least if you profit from them.

                                                                  Those are just the basics. Obviously the more intricate you get them ore intricate the issues become. But if there were any safe option that would provide a lot more than 3% return most people would be doing them. Since there arent then it is safe to assume that the ones that are either arent legal, a scam, or require much more than the average person could provide.
                                                                  No investment advice...10k to 100k for most of those rates quoted (guaranteed). If you don't have that than the 3% achieved with anything you would have done via sports betting is useless from a "value" standpoint (time invested in developing models and researching plays). Trust me, the big books are rolling their profits into the market, business ventures, and real estate...they're not gambling with it even though they are ahead of the curve.
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                                                                  • opie1988
                                                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                                                    • 09-12-10
                                                                    • 23429

                                                                    #34
                                                                    There's no such thing as a guaranteed return in double digits with zero risk. Doesn't exist. Regardless of how large or small the initial investment is. I know people who are investors in some of the most successful and exclusive hedge funds in the market, and while these numbers are certainly expected and often greatly exceeded, none of the fund managers would dare to utter the dreaded "guarantee" clause. The men investing the type of capital it requires to even join would run for the hills if they heard that.

                                                                    With the amounts Justin claims to be wagering, 3% annual return in the current climate would have investors lined up to join.
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                                                                    • Justin7
                                                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                      • 07-31-06
                                                                      • 8577

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Why 3% ROI per bet is not the same as a 3% annual return.

                                                                      If you have an ROI of 3%, and make 1600 plays, you more quadruple your money with 1600 plays (if you risk 3% of your bank per play). Over 3 years, that is an annual yield of about 62% on your capital. If you have bonuses, even better. I haven't found any CDs that do that, that will actually pay.
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