Why do we tip in casino games like blackjack? Or even poker?

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  • Ian
    SBR Hall of Famer
    • 11-09-09
    • 6024

    #106
    Dealers make minimum wage. Their tips are taxed based upon an estimate of tips/down, and it gets taken out of their paycheck. Without tips, dealers would be making only about $2/hour or thereabouts. They live off their tips and that's why I tip them.
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    • Jrod124
      SBR Hall of Famer
      • 10-31-09
      • 5622

      #107
      Usually tip about a $1 per poker hand, most of these assholes at my casino don't even say thank you. Which sucks
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      • Deep_Rest
        SBR Wise Guy
        • 11-29-10
        • 841

        #108
        I only tip dealers of casino games after my session is over (and it was good) or if I win a fortune hand (Pai-gow, Ultimate HE, etc.) I'll give them like 5%.

        In poker I tip 2 dollars for every $50 in the pot. Unless I win a pot that is <$20, then no tip.

        Some dealers have become very ungrateful though...especially in Vegas. I was there a few months ago playing pai-gow with a friend when he hit a straight flush. A few hands after my friend got his money, a new dealer came in. The old dealer said to the new dealer, 'everythings fine, but they don't know how to say thanks' then she jiggled her tip recepticle and left. She said it in plainview of us too...we just got up and left lol.
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        • Conan
          SBR MVP
          • 09-01-10
          • 1178

          #109
          tipping is a good way for the custimer to control the level of service good workers dealers/waters/anything will thrive and be around and shitty ones will starve you should not tip if the service sucked and you should without question if you enjoied your expereance as far as adding to the house edge if you are consered about that then you have no buisness gambiling
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          • bettilimbroke999
            SBR Posting Legend
            • 02-04-08
            • 13254

            #110
            Originally posted by Conan
            tipping is a good way for the custimer to control the level of service good workers dealers/waters/anything will thrive and be around and shitty ones will starve you should not tip if the service sucked and you should without question if you enjoied your expereance as far as adding to the house edge if you are consered about that then you have no buisness gambiling
            I prefer to let the business control a bad service worker by firing him, when I go to Chick-Fil-A the service there is absolutely incredible, no tips involved just the business is run like clockwork, when I go to Burger King its like Im walking into the twilight zone, Burger Kings are generally managed like fuckin garbage with nothing but wannabe gang members running the register

            How Chick-Fil-A gets smoking hot girl and intelligent hardworking white guys while BK gets nothing but ghetto trash is hard to figure but I suspect they pay more, I know it aint tips as they dont accept them
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            • wtf
              SBR Posting Legend
              • 08-22-08
              • 12983

              #111
              a few years ago before macau was de-regulated the dealers would TAKE THEIR TIPS, and nobody complained cause they thought it was bad luck, no kidding
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              • Grits n' Gravy
                Restricted User
                • 06-10-10
                • 13024

                #112
                Was at Rio tonight to play some cash games. Went with friend to HL slots so he could play $25 triple play. He is a strong tipper on his jackpots. He didn't hold a King due to playing too fast and double tapping hold button. Ended up where he would have had 4 Kings for $3125. Manager didn't blink and paid him on the spot. Spoke with the guy and asked why he paid my friend. Response was, "he is good player who takes care of my staff. I know he isn't a shot taker. If he was an asshole, I would have called surveillance and Gaming to file dispute paperwork. My friend tried to tip him a few c-notes and the manager politely declined and said "to please take care of my staff." The manager was a class act, especially considering he was fairly young. Moral of story is being a tipper can help you on a dispute. He also gave us the under and Mariners. Apparently according to my friend, the guy is a very good capper who specializes in cfb to the point only M and Wynn take his action. Will try and get his plays come cfb season.
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                • HawkEye
                  SBR High Roller
                  • 08-13-10
                  • 237

                  #113
                  Originally posted by bettilimbroke999
                  At the end of the night when your broke from playing their rigged ass games does the dealer give ya back 10% of what he ****** you out of?
                  haha i guess your just a loser and will always be a loser. i bet you have never won a day in your life. that's why you think tipping the dealers or anything in life that is labor related is retarded. no point in explaining myself. it will never get to you anyways. with that said, my co-worker dealt out 7 card straight flush no joker with the player putting $1 on the light to hit 100% of the jackpot for 87k. take home is 65k. she tipped the dealer $7000.
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                  • bettilimbroke999
                    SBR Posting Legend
                    • 02-04-08
                    • 13254

                    #114
                    Originally posted by HawkEye
                    haha i guess your just a loser and will always be a loser. i bet you have never won a day in your life. that's why you think tipping the dealers or anything in life that is labor related is retarded. no point in explaining myself. it will never get to you anyways. with that said, my co-worker dealt out 7 card straight flush no joker with the player putting $1 on the light to hit 100% of the jackpot for 87k. take home is 65k. she tipped the dealer $7000.
                    That lady was a moron, she should go home and blow her brains out, though shed prolly have to empty the clip and get lucky to hit her brain, you've acted like such a jackass that I might not tip the dealer shit now if I ever hit a jackpot since I realize what a ridiculous amount you think you deserve for nothing but previously I would've tipped 500 for a miracle like that. When you consider she'll have to pay 1/3 taxes on that 87k she effectively tipped a guy that helps the casino rob ppl for a living 10k, she's clearly either too rich to give a **** or fuckin retarded

                    I aint gonna donate shit to some jackass already makin 5x what he should to deal some rigged ass games to rob everyone but that's just me. If Im high/drunk enough to sit down and play that garbage then whatever I lose the casino can pay the dealer out of that if they chose to, if they feel their bitch is only worth minimum wage then so be it, if a miracle happens and I overcome the ridiculous odds against winning then that money gets stuffed into my wallet and I tell the dealer thanks and have a nice day
                    Last edited by bettilimbroke999; 06-28-11, 09:40 AM.
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                    • AmpleGamble
                      SBR Wise Guy
                      • 03-04-10
                      • 568

                      #115
                      You tip because it is the generous thing to do. If you dont have to money to lose, you shouldn't be playing blackjack.
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                      • VBPro7
                        SBR Wise Guy
                        • 11-12-10
                        • 720

                        #116
                        I like tipping the dealers after the last hand when they are leaving for a table rotation. I dont like tipping for bottle beer, draft beer yes, unless it's a $hitty pour. I only tip for something that needs to be made.
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                        • PaperTrail07
                          SBR Posting Legend
                          • 08-29-08
                          • 20423

                          #117
                          I tip a good dealer that is ABOVE AVERAGE at what he does....a dealer that does not need help chopping pots ect..........
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                          • Conan
                            SBR MVP
                            • 09-01-10
                            • 1178

                            #118
                            Originally posted by bettilimbroke999
                            I prefer to let the business control a bad service worker by firing him, when I go to Chick-Fil-A the service there is absolutely incredible, no tips involved just the business is run like clockwork, when I go to Burger King its like Im walking into the twilight zone, Burger Kings are generally managed like fuckin garbage with nothing but wannabe gang members running the register How Chick-Fil-A gets smoking hot girl and intelligent hardworking white guys while BK gets nothing but ghetto trash is hard to figure but I suspect they pay more, I know it aint tips as they dont accept them
                            thats partaly true management needs to play a role as well b ut its not bk its the manager in that store as i have gone to bk and had a good expereance and others had bad ones and you would make yourself more credible sounding if you refrain from rasist coments and as far as pay there is little if any diffrence from one fast food chain to another
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                            • jonmic
                              SBR Wise Guy
                              • 09-25-06
                              • 685

                              #119
                              tipping is a waste, all tipping she should demolished
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                              • bettilimbroke999
                                SBR Posting Legend
                                • 02-04-08
                                • 13254

                                #120
                                Originally posted by Conan
                                thats partaly true management needs to play a role as well b ut its not bk its the manager in that store as i have gone to bk and had a good expereance and others had bad ones and you would make yourself more credible sounding if you refrain from rasist coments and as far as pay there is little if any diffrence from one fast food chain to another
                                Nothing was mentioned remotely racist, get a fuckin life

                                If you dont think Chick Fil-A on average has better service than BK you are crazy


                                If you think saying that the whites that work at Chick Fil-A do a better job than the ghetto blacks that work at BK means Im racist then so be it
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                                • donkdown
                                  Restricted User
                                  • 07-09-09
                                  • 4423

                                  #121
                                  Card Counters never tip at a BJ table!! Do u know why??
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                                  • chemicalbrother
                                    Restricted User
                                    • 01-26-11
                                    • 4086

                                    #122
                                    Originally posted by jonmic
                                    tipping is a waste, all tipping she should demolished
                                    and magically, every industry that relied on tipping increases prices by 25%.
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                                    • pico
                                      BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                      • 04-05-07
                                      • 27321

                                      #123
                                      i don't tip when i lose...not punching the dealer is good enough tip already
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                                      • FilletMaster
                                        SBR MVP
                                        • 09-21-10
                                        • 1096

                                        #124
                                        I don't care the size of the pot at the poker table. i give $1 everytime i win a hand. and blackjack dealers can go **** themselves.
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                                        • mr.inpak
                                          SBR Sharp
                                          • 12-13-09
                                          • 449

                                          #125
                                          the dealers are paid $4.00 an hour they depend on tips if nobody tipped there would be no dealers whitch means no casinos
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                                          • bettilimbroke999
                                            SBR Posting Legend
                                            • 02-04-08
                                            • 13254

                                            #126
                                            Originally posted by chemicalbrother
                                            and magically, every industry that relied on tipping increases prices by 25%.
                                            How exactly, are they gonna change the rules of blackjack or something, force ya to hit on 17 since they have to actually pay their dealers over minimum wage to rob you
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                                            • Conan
                                              SBR MVP
                                              • 09-01-10
                                              • 1178

                                              #127
                                              Originally posted by bettilimbroke999
                                              Nothing was mentioned remotely racist, get a fuckin life If you dont think Chick Fil-A on average has better service than BK you are crazy If you think saying that the whites that work at Chick Fil-A do a better job than the ghetto blacks that work at BK means Im racist then so be it
                                              how is saying whites do a better job than blacks not racist?
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                                              • playful24
                                                SBR Rookie
                                                • 06-28-11
                                                • 2

                                                #128
                                                It's always a good gesture to give a tip whenever we win.. They say it attracts luck.
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                                                • Optional
                                                  Administrator
                                                  • 06-10-10
                                                  • 60711

                                                  #129
                                                  Originally posted by mr.inpak
                                                  the dealers are paid $4.00 an hour they depend on tips if nobody tipped there would be no dealers whitch means no casinos
                                                  Never seen a dealer need to scrounge tips to make a wage in Star City in Sydney, yet the casino somehow seems to survive.

                                                  I believe they earn around $30/hr
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                                                  • Optional
                                                    Administrator
                                                    • 06-10-10
                                                    • 60711

                                                    #130
                                                    As a business why would they want to risk turning off potential patrons by forcing the staff to hardball the customers for tips anyway? Seems totally counter productive to the casino to me.
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                                                    • bettilimbroke999
                                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                                      • 02-04-08
                                                      • 13254

                                                      #131
                                                      Originally posted by Conan
                                                      how is saying whites do a better job than blacks not racist?
                                                      The whites at Chick-Fil-A or the ghetto blacks at BK, which would you rather encounter when you walk into a restaurant?

                                                      Get a fuckin life with this racist shit, racism is not when you think a nice intelligent well-mannered white is a better worker than a ghetto black talkin ebonics with his cap turned sideways
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                                                      • Conan
                                                        SBR MVP
                                                        • 09-01-10
                                                        • 1178

                                                        #132
                                                        Originally posted by bettilimbroke999
                                                        The whites at Chick-Fil-A or the ghetto blacks at BK, which would you rather encounter when you walk into a restaurant? Get a fuckin life with this racist shit, racism is not when you think a nice intelligent well-mannered white is a better worker than a ghetto black talkin ebonics with his cap turned sideways
                                                        there are plenty of nice intelligent well-mannered blacks and ghetto white talkin ebonics with his cap turned sideways around and my point was while i have not bean to a chick-fil-A because there are none around where i live i beleve it has more to do with individual management as i have bean to BK's with good service and polite people as well as BK's with crappy service.
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                                                        • Cookie Monster
                                                          SBR MVP
                                                          • 12-05-08
                                                          • 2251

                                                          #133
                                                          Originally posted by chemicalbrother
                                                          and magically, every industry that relied on tipping increases prices by 25%.
                                                          It will not be true, as such industries are in competition for your money vs non tipping business, and they must keep the prices competitive. And even if the prices rise overall, the total cost for the customer would be the about same. Income for the workers would be more stable, retirement plans better funded and taxes always paid.

                                                          The question is: Why the price charged for the service do not cover all the expenses required to run the business? Why the stores pay the full salary of the employees but the restaurants dos not?
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                                                          • bettilimbroke999
                                                            SBR Posting Legend
                                                            • 02-04-08
                                                            • 13254

                                                            #134
                                                            I've never been to a Chick Fil-A with bad service, I have almost never been to a BK with good service

                                                            Without being racist I will simply tell you that Chick Fil-A employs a much higher percentage of whites than is normal in the fast food world which is dominated by uneducated minorities. They are apparently a very "christian" store as they are closed on Sunday for the sabbath and provide scholarships etc to their employees to help them better themselves and demand high quality professional behavior out of all of their employees, its a great pleasure to be a customer there, BK on the other hand treats their employees like complete trash and is unconcerned with how ridiculous they act and gets trash in return
                                                            Last edited by bettilimbroke999; 06-29-11, 07:23 PM.
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                                                            • downsouth
                                                              SBR Posting Legend
                                                              • 01-13-11
                                                              • 11580

                                                              #135
                                                              Originally posted by bettilimbroke999
                                                              I've never been to a Chick Fil-A with bad service, I have almost never been to a BK with good service

                                                              Without being racist I will simply tell you that Chick Fil-A employs a much higher percentage of whites than is normal in the fast food world which is dominated by uneducated minorities. They are apparently a very "christian" store as they are closed on Sunday for the sabbath and provide scholarships etc to their employees to help them better themselves and demand high quality professional behavior out of all of their employees, its a great pleasure to be a customer there, BK on the other hand treats their employees like complete trash and is unconcerned with how ridiculous they act and gets trash in return

                                                              Chic fil A is generally run pretty f ing flawless. There drive thru can be 10-15 cars long and they will plow thru it faster than your average BK will three cars.

                                                              I really think it has to do with the company culture as a whole. They are very religious driven and generally hire from within a pool of people that are fairly educated/driven, even for high school kids. Plus they offer them college reimbursement, etc for working there.
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                                                              • JMUplayer
                                                                SBR MVP
                                                                • 08-27-09
                                                                • 2765

                                                                #136
                                                                I'm 99% certain they get at least minimum wage
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                                                                • tukkk
                                                                  SBR Sharp
                                                                  • 10-04-10
                                                                  • 391

                                                                  #137
                                                                  anyone who thinks average dealers make more money than the average Joe, is very wrong.
                                                                  dealers need tips, so they should act polite... which they do imo
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                                                                  • Hoja Verdes
                                                                    SBR MVP
                                                                    • 08-23-06
                                                                    • 1403

                                                                    #138
                                                                    Originally posted by Ra77er
                                                                    Dark you basically nailed what I was trying to say in one sentence. My uncle co owned a restaurant/bar and it didnt make it 3 years. He could barely bring a paycheck home for himself after paying equipment loans, overhead, licenses etc etc.
                                                                    PROBABLY because he served crappy food.
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                                                                    • PlatinumBerg
                                                                      SBR MVP
                                                                      • 03-01-10
                                                                      • 1058

                                                                      #139
                                                                      Tipping is a very cultural thing, there are many parts in the world where people do not tip. I went to China and ate at a restaurant, I left a tip, and the waitress came running up to me saying I accidentally left some money on the table. They have no idea what tipping is and why someone should get paid extra for doing their job.
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                                                                      • Hoja Verdes
                                                                        SBR MVP
                                                                        • 08-23-06
                                                                        • 1403

                                                                        #140
                                                                        Originally posted by Ra77er
                                                                        Dark you basically nailed what I was trying to say in one sentence. My uncle co owned a restaurant/bar and it didnt make it 3 years. He could barely bring a paycheck home for himself after paying equipment loans, overhead, licenses etc etc.
                                                                        PROBABLY because he served crappy food.
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