Just challanged Suzy Orman to a debate

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  • Emily_Haines
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 04-14-09
    • 15917

    #1
    Just challanged Suzy Orman to a debate



    Someone has to go on her show and challenge her on the insanity she spews. I think she is dead wrong on the 401K system in particular.

    This thing was put into place 20 years ago and started of with the tech bubble and we saw year after year with double digit returns and the unrealistic expectations of massive accumulation of easy money. It seemed the 401(k) would be a perpetual wealth machine for each and every member of the great American middle class.”

    Once you have money in there you can't get it out. And even then you are faced with daunting penalties. No professional trader would ever put his life savings somewhere that he couldn't cash out when he needed to.

    Also most people think that they get this money tax free when they hit 59.5 or retire. WRONG! It is taxed just as any regular income and you probably wont have any deductions. You will be lucky to get 55% of the money you put away.

    With the massive debt in this country are people really stupid enough to think that with 2-3 trillion sitting in 401K's, pensions and other retirement accounts that their is not going to be massive taxes increases on this money?

    As these baby boomers retire they will be liquidating stocks putting even more strain on stocks and mutual funds.

    Run away inflation can turn your next egg into a pile of

    Who says that you even go to live to the age when you can retire. LIVE FOR TODAY NOT TOMORROW!
  • Deuce
    BARRELED IN @ SBR!
    • 01-12-08
    • 29843

    #2
    Bury this fukk.
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    • ChileCheese
      SBR MVP
      • 11-07-09
      • 1957

      #3
      Good for you Emily.
      Keep fighting the good fight.
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      • saints7011
        SBR Hall of Famer
        • 09-21-09
        • 5544

        #4
        who ?
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        • nosniboR11
          SBR Posting Legend
          • 09-02-08
          • 10042

          #5
          lol idiot liberals
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          • jarvol
            SBR Hall of Famer
            • 09-13-10
            • 6074

            #6
            401ks are only good for the matching money you hopefully get from your employer. You are a fool if you contribute any more than is required to get that free matching money.
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            • QuantumLeap
              SBR Hall of Famer
              • 08-22-08
              • 6880

              #7
              Orman is a part of the Establishment. People like her and others have to preach about investing in the stock market or it will tank and they will lose a lot of their money.

              The S&P hit its peak with the tech bubble 10 years ago and regained its value in 2007. However, it's lower than the peak now. That's 10 years with a negative return.
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              • wtf
                SBR Posting Legend
                • 08-22-08
                • 12983

                #8
                she sucks donkey c o c k i understand
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                • rkelly110
                  BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                  • 10-05-09
                  • 39691

                  #9
                  Can't stand the bitch, she stated one time about cleaning her own toilet and would
                  absolutely NOT do that. Who the hell else is going to clean up your shit, lazy bitch!

                  With so many people not having a clue on money matters, I guess she's doing a
                  good service. Maybe 'bama should hire her to straighten out the countries finances.
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                  • chilidog
                    SBR Posting Legend
                    • 04-05-09
                    • 10305

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Emily_Haines
                    Someone has to go on her show and challenge her on the insanity she spews. I think she is dead wrong on the 401K system in particular.
                    She's probably going to think you're as crazy as we do.
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                    • jwbama23
                      SBR MVP
                      • 01-17-10
                      • 2373

                      #11
                      I find it funny that most people who have no investment background offer such opinions on the rights and wrongs of 401k's. I can assure you as annoying as Orman is, she forgot more in the past five minutes about personal finance than Emily or many other posters on here have ever known
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                      • str
                        SBR Posting Legend
                        • 01-12-09
                        • 11786

                        #12
                        You should only put in to an IRA the amount necessary to get the matching funds from your employer. And if you have that, only put in the amount up to the cap required by the employer to match. When they stop matching, you stop putting money in. That simple.
                        The rest of your money can work for you any way you choose. Risk free or to the risk level of your choice!
                        People that carry CC debt as well as other BAD DEBT, and have fat IRA's that are not matched , are losing money without even knowing it, not only in my opinion but factually as well.
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                        • Emily_Haines
                          SBR Posting Legend
                          • 04-14-09
                          • 15917

                          #13
                          Originally posted by jwbama23
                          I find it funny that most people who have no investment background offer such opinions on the rights and wrongs of 401k's. I can assure you as annoying as Orman is, she forgot more in the past five minutes about personal finance than Emily or many other posters on here have ever known
                          Unlike Orman I not stupid enough to continue working when I don't have too.
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