Full Tilt Poker Gave Loans to Players Without Telling Them

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  • ttwarrior1
    BARRELED IN @ SBR!
    • 06-23-09
    • 28460

    #1
    Full Tilt Poker Gave Loans to Players Without Telling Them
    Full Tilt Poker Gave Loans to Players Without Telling Them




    In a well-written article appearing on the pages of Subject poker, writer Noah Stephens-Davidowitz points out what he says was one of the worst kept secrets surrounding Full Tilt Poker and its most interesting “loan program”.

    Turns out FTP was loaning money to players without telling them, or so that is the claim.
    From at least September of 2010 to February of 2011, Full Tilt Poker was crediting funds to US player accounts for deposits that never left their bank accounts.
    This, Stephens-Davidowitz contends, was done via the *************** deposit method that had helped build Full Tilt Poker into the second largest online poker room in the world.
    FTP had a rationale for doing this. Charges against payment processor Bradley Franzen helped shed light on what was going on.
    This (failure to credit funds) was not simply an accident, as many had suspected. Full Tilt Poker was actually accepting deposits and crediting player accounts without payment processors in place to collect the money. Full Tilt had effectively given players loans without telling them, under the assumption that they could collect the debt later. According to numerous sources inside both Full Tilt and PokerStars, FTP viewed this as an opportunity to gain US customers who were unable to deposit on Stars. This activity was so rampant that, according to Franzen’s allocution, the shortfall reached $60 million at its peak. Even for a company of Full Tilt’s size, that is a very large amount of money.
    Considering Full Tilt Poker knew they were under investigation, to say this was “reckless behavior” (assuming the story to be true) would have to be one of the biggest understatements of the year.
    To date, US players have not been paid by Full Tilt Poker. Another indicted online poker company, PokerStars, meanwhile, has paid its customers in full.
  • lemart5
    SBR MVP
    • 01-12-11
    • 2818

    #2
    This is true this happened with FTP through the A.C.H deposit method I had several deposits of $500 $1400$and$1200 credited to my account but only to have Full Tilt come after the money 6months later.They sent emails claiming processor backups .It wasn't
    good business to do this and it probably caused customers to incur overdraft fees.
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    • csm506
      SBR MVP
      • 07-10-10
      • 1402

      #3
      No kidding can I have some
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      • MC PICKS
        SBR Hall of Famer
        • 01-10-10
        • 6644

        #4
        Used a hedge fund I heard.
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        • Monitor-Tan
          SBR MVP
          • 02-20-11
          • 4460

          #5
          LOL, damn it only if I knew this before it went under.. Just my luck lol..
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          • borednaz
            SBR MVP
            • 08-28-10
            • 3809

            #6
            So that's why the games were so loose .
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            • no1here
              SBR Hall of Famer
              • 03-23-09
              • 5914

              #7
              this is old news and quite well known
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              • ttwarrior1
                BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                • 06-23-09
                • 28460

                #8
                id say 2 percent of poker players know and about 1 percent of sbr.
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                • ttwarrior1
                  BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                  • 06-23-09
                  • 28460

                  #9
                  ttwarrior4 on skype, over 1k members in our poker skype room
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                  • Daveyboy
                    SBR MVP
                    • 05-12-10
                    • 1317

                    #10
                    What a scam!
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                    • acarmelo1
                      SBR Hall of Famer
                      • 09-29-09
                      • 6321

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Daveyboy
                      What a scam!
                      Why?, they where just giving credit to the customers.
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