Round 3 of Chess Betting at Pinnie w/ Mathdotcom

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  • mathdotcom
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 03-24-08
    • 11689

    #1
    Round 3 of Chess Betting at Pinnie w/ Mathdotcom
    Went 2/3 yesterday.

    Round 3 games:

    Carlsen – van Wely

    Carlsen handily drew his game today (with black) against Svidler. Van Wely, on the other hand, lost in the first round and drew with white yesterday. Van Wely will not be trying to win this game. He will be happy to take a draw w/ black against the top seed, and will be aiming to do so. My bet on Carlsen does not mean that I think his winning is the most likely result. It is based more on the fact that Carlsen is highly unlikely to lose. Of their 8 games with Carlsen as white, Carlsen has won 5/8 and drawn 3/8. Some of these games were from 2 years ago, even, when Carlsen was not as good as he is now.
    I am taking Carlsen to win at -340. Bargain price.

    Eljanov – Shirov

    Eljanov has drawn both his games while Shirov has won both of his. Shirov is a wild attacking player, and I’d take him to beat anyone in this tournament with the white pieces. But, he's black this game. I am leaning towards a draw because Eljanov has been solid so far and won’t give Shirov much room to go wild. A quick check at chesslive.de shows all of their 3 games have been draws. Then again, Shirov is hot this tournament, so you never know.
    Taking Draw at -135 (another bargain price).

    Alekseev – Svidler

    Svidler is never very ambitious with the black pieces. He’s drawn both his first two games. Alekseev will be playing cautiously as he is 0.5/2 so far in the tournament. Chesslive.de shows both games played were drawn, though theyre from 2005 and 2006. They played just 2 months ago with Alekseev winning as black! So I think Alekseev will be happy w/ a draw against a top seed, given that he's not playing so well. And Svidler should be happy with a draw as black against someone he's never beaten.
    Taking Draw at -150.

    Nisipeanu – Ivanchuk

    Nisipeanu is 0.5/2 so far, while Ivanchuk has won 1 and lost 1. Ivanchuk won his last game handily against Alekseev. Ivanchuk is very unpredictable. Nisipeanu has actually beaten Ivanchuk a bunch of times with white, with a handful of draws. I am staying away from Ivanchuk. He could get raped, play a quiet game for a draw, or come out fighting.
    No play.

    Onischuk – Karjakin

    Onischuk just lost while Karjakin just won. Onischuk plays a solid style of chess. I doubt he will press hard for a win against Karjakin (who always seems to consolidate a win with a draw in his next game). Nevertheless, Karjakin surprised me with his play earlier today. And their one previous game, Karjakin won as black. They're both -105 to win. Don't have a feeling for who would win a decisive game here, but at only -138, I'm betting the draw.
    Draw at -138.

    Jakovenko – Volokitin

    Volokitin just won his last game against Onischuk, while Jakovenko got absolutely crushed by Shirov. Can you believe that Jakovenko is -250 to win?? There is even more reason to think this line is way off. Their last game (only 2 months ago) Volokitin won as black, in a Petroff (for those who know chess openings)! I think Volokitin should be -150 here. Very few of the games between these two are drawn. Stay away.
    I am on Volokitin at +230.

    Recap:
    Carlsen to win -340
    Eljanov/Shirov Draw -135
    Alekseev/Svidler Draw -150
    Onischuk/Karjakin Draw -138
    Volokitin to win +230

    Comments?
  • SlickFazzer
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 05-22-08
    • 20209

    #2
    I had never seen chess analysis before yesterday, nice work!
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    • PunkerPS
      SBR Rookie
      • 06-09-08
      • 9

      #3
      Originally posted by mathdotcom
      Recap:
      Carlsen to win -340
      Eljanov/Shirov Draw -135
      Alekseev/Svidler Draw -150
      Onischuk/Karjakin Draw -138
      Volokitin to win +230

      Comments?
      Agree on most - Carlsen should be a bigger favorite to win vs VanWely, and Svidler just isn't the same guy he used to be. I might give Shirov a bit of an edge to win vs Eljanov.

      Only one I really disagree with is Onischuk-Karjakin - I think Sergey will win. I'd also bet whatever the highest payout line is on Ivanchuk since you're right that all 3 results are about equally likely with him
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      • mathdotcom
        SBR Posting Legend
        • 03-24-08
        • 11689

        #4
        Bad news guys.

        Carlsen-van Wely = $$$ won
        Onischuk-Karjakin draw = $$$ won (was a very unbalanced game, but Onischuk had all the chances to win)
        Eljanov - Shirov draw = brutal loss. Shirov played like total shit and lost. What a terrible 3rd round for a guy who went 2-0 for the start of the tournament.
        Alekseev - Svidler draw = another loss. Svidler just dropped a pawn out of nowhere and quickly collapsed.
        Jakovenko-Volokitin (Volokitin to win) = brutal loss. Looked like a very drawish game all along, then when Jakovenko went on the attack Volokitin fell apart. Both players played awfully, especially towards the end, when Volokitin blundered into a simple crushing combination. Jakovenko missed it! But still had a decent enough advantage to win.

        I will be back later tonight to prepare for the games tomorrow. Unusual/sad day for me. Normally when the better player is black, you can expect them to hold a draw.
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        • Art Vandeleigh
          SBR MVP
          • 12-31-06
          • 1494

          #5
          White to mate in 2 moves.

          No more chess posts until you solve it.


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          • mathdotcom
            SBR Posting Legend
            • 03-24-08
            • 11689

            #6
            Are you kidding me?

            Qxc6, Ba6#
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            • pico
              BARRELED IN @ SBR!
              • 04-05-07
              • 27321

              #7
              i like to bet the farm on deep blue II.
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              • Art Vandeleigh
                SBR MVP
                • 12-31-06
                • 1494

                #8
                lol, good job, carry on.

                I'll find you something more challenging next time
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                • Helmut
                  Restricted User
                  • 03-17-07
                  • 356

                  #9
                  With a $50 max bet you shouldn't have got hurt that bad.
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                  • SlickFazzer
                    SBR Posting Legend
                    • 05-22-08
                    • 20209

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Helmut
                    With a $50 max bet you shouldn't have got hurt that bad.
                    $50 max bet? - Books must be scared silly of the chess wiseguys.
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                    • mathdotcom
                      SBR Posting Legend
                      • 03-24-08
                      • 11689

                      #11
                      $50 max per individual bet.
                      Can keep betting same side, but each $50 bet moves the line at least 10points. Almost everytime I make a bet I could scalp it! So far I have been betting to win $50 on all my plays. Will post my round 5 plays in an hour.
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