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  • Francis Sollozzo
    SBR MVP
    • 11-15-07
    • 2381

    #1
    All Things -- Triple Crown -- Belmont Park -- Big Brown
  • Francis Sollozzo
    SBR MVP
    • 11-15-07
    • 2381

    #2
    $100 #1 Place

    Thats how I'm leaning
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    • VegasDave
      SBR Hall of Famer
      • 01-03-07
      • 8056

      #3
      Bet it to place instead... it will pay better then win and show, and BB will win, unless he has a colossal breakdown in which case he wouldn't show, either.

      I'm leaning 1 w/ 3 4 5 7 10 w/ 3 4 5 7 10 trifecta

      EDIT: Am I imagining things or did you say show before?
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      • Francis Sollozzo
        SBR MVP
        • 11-15-07
        • 2381

        #4
        Originally posted by usckingsfan31

        EDIT: Am I imagining things or did you say show before?
        said Place all along
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        • SBR Lou
          BARRELED IN @ SBR!
          • 08-02-07
          • 37863

          #5
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          • trotter9
            SBR Hustler
            • 06-02-08
            • 50

            #6
            oh he will place when is the question
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            • Francis Sollozzo
              SBR MVP
              • 11-15-07
              • 2381

              #7
              crazyl , if you believe that there are some nice 'Field' prices out there
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              • VegasDave
                SBR Hall of Famer
                • 01-03-07
                • 8056

                #8
                Originally posted by Francis Sollozzo
                said Place all along
                I knew I should lay off the acid
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                • Francis Sollozzo
                  SBR MVP
                  • 11-15-07
                  • 2381

                  #9
                  Hoof Injury May Scratch Casino Drive

                  By John Scheinman
                  Special to The Washington Post
                  Saturday, June 7, 2008

                  ELMONT, N.Y., -- Casino Drive, the Japanese import considered the primary rival to Big Brown in the Belmont Stakes, might not run after suffering what was described as a possible "stone bruise" in his left rear hoof.

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                  • VegasDave
                    SBR Hall of Famer
                    • 01-03-07
                    • 8056

                    #10
                    If Casino doesn't go...

                    WIN: Big Brown
                    PLACE: Tale of Etaki
                    SHOW: Denis of Cork
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                    • VegasDave
                      SBR Hall of Famer
                      • 01-03-07
                      • 8056

                      #11
                      $1 Trifecta = $20 bet;

                      1 w/ 3 4 5 7 10 w/ 3 4 5 7 10

                      Could just go 4 5 7 on top if you want to save a few bucks, as it will be one of them I think, but might as well go for it and hope to hit a longer show.

                      10 cent super = $15.60 bet;

                      1 w/ 4 5 7 w/ 3 4 5 7 10 w/ ALL ($9.60)
                      1 w/ 3 4 5 7 10 w/ 3 4 5 7 10 w/ 3 4 5 7 10 ($6.00)

                      That, my friends, is the $35 play for the Belmont.
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                      • LT Profits
                        SBR Aristocracy
                        • 10-27-06
                        • 90963

                        #12
                        Denis of Cork shocks the world at a decent price!

                        Now I like Big Brown mind you, and he is the best horse in the race, but I just don't think he is worthy of being a Triple Crown winner while beating possibly the worst crop of three-year-olds in the history of civilization.
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                        • BigOrangeTitans
                          SBR MVP
                          • 11-23-07
                          • 4504

                          #13
                          denis of cork is my sleeper.
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                          • VegasDave
                            SBR Hall of Famer
                            • 01-03-07
                            • 8056

                            #14
                            LT; I didn't think that Anaheim Ducks fans were worthy of a Stanley Cup championship in their 13th season when most of their fans were all bandwagon or traitor Kings fans while loyal Kings fans have gone 40+ years without ever winning a cup...

                            Yet they did.

                            I bet most Philadelphia fans and Cubs fans would agree with me that there is no justice in sports.

                            You are right, BB is a great horse but absolutely not stuff of legend or worthy of being a Triple Crown winner.

                            That does not change the fact that he will win the Belmont, and handily.
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                            • LT Profits
                              SBR Aristocracy
                              • 10-27-06
                              • 90963

                              #15
                              I am hoping the gambling gods intervene.
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                              • VegasDave
                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                • 01-03-07
                                • 8056

                                #16
                                If they do, it'll tear my exotics to shreds
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                                • Francis Sollozzo
                                  SBR MVP
                                  • 11-15-07
                                  • 2381

                                  #17
                                  ELMONT, NEW YORK (TICKER) —Casino Drive has been scratched from Saturday’s Belmont Stakes due to a bruised left hind hoof, according to the Schenectady Gazette.
                                  Considered the main threat to foil Big Brown’s bid at winning the Triple Crown in the final leg, Casino Drive seemed to be healthy during Saturday morning’s workout. But according to the report, the horse appeared to be favoring the hoof after returning to the stables.
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                                  • VegasDave
                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                    • 01-03-07
                                    • 8056

                                    #18
                                    I'm re-capping now. The .05% chance that big Brown got challenged and worn down early just got erased.
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                                    • betplom
                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                      • 09-20-06
                                      • 13444

                                      #19
                                      I saw these at 5Dimes:

                                      Belmont Stakes

                                      Big Brown vs:
                                      Field + 4.49 lengths -155

                                      Field +250



                                      5/2 on the field would be my play.
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                                      • bbyhill
                                        SBR MVP
                                        • 09-16-07
                                        • 2991

                                        #20
                                        never thought CD would even hit the board and my tri is 1/2,4/2,4,7,9,10 $8
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                                        • VegasDave
                                          SBR Hall of Famer
                                          • 01-03-07
                                          • 8056

                                          #21
                                          Do you actually see anything in the 2 bby or just have him in there for the payout?

                                          My new bets...

                                          $1 Tris ($40)
                                          1 w/ 3 4 7 10 w/ 3 4 7 10
                                          1 w/ 3 4 7 w/ 3 4 6 7 9 10
                                          1 w/ 3 4 7 w/ 3 4 7
                                          1 w/ 7 w/ ALL

                                          10 cent supers ($12)
                                          1 w/ 3 4 7 10 w/ 3 4 7 10 w/ ALL
                                          1 w/ 7 w/ 3 4 10 w/ ALL
                                          1 w/ 3 4 10 w/ 7 w/ ALL
                                          1 w/ 7 w/ 3 4 10 w/ 3 4 10
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                                          • The Investor
                                            Restricted User
                                            • 02-16-08
                                            • 459

                                            #22
                                            boxed exactas

                                            (big brown/denis of cork)
                                            (big brown/readys echo)

                                            tri on the 3 horses..

                                            with Casino Drive now scratched, expect Big Brown to now win the belmont, with a strong challenge and possible upset by denis of cork..... Longshot (readys echo) has a very good shot at one of the top 3 spots today..

                                            good luck..
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                                            • bbyhill
                                              SBR MVP
                                              • 09-16-07
                                              • 2991

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by usckingsfan31
                                              Do you actually see anything in the 2 bby or just have him in there for the payout?

                                              My new bets...

                                              $1 Tris ($40)
                                              1 w/ 3 4 7 10 w/ 3 4 7 10
                                              1 w/ 3 4 7 w/ 3 4 6 7 9 10
                                              1 w/ 3 4 7 w/ 3 4 7
                                              1 w/ 7 w/ ALL

                                              10 cent supers ($12)
                                              1 w/ 3 4 7 10 w/ 3 4 7 10 w/ ALL
                                              1 w/ 7 w/ 3 4 10 w/ ALL
                                              1 w/ 3 4 10 w/ 7 w/ ALL
                                              1 w/ 7 w/ 3 4 10 w/ 3 4 10



                                              Dont see anything in the 2 it is just for the payout you would be crazy to think a maiden could win in a G-1 LOL
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                                              • bbyhill
                                                SBR MVP
                                                • 09-16-07
                                                • 2991

                                                #24
                                                another tri
                                                4/1,2/all
                                                2/4,9/1,4,7,9,10 for the of it

                                                never liked Casino Drive and didn't even think of him as a threat.DOC I think is the biggest threat from the Derby started last and made up ground to be 3rd should be ready today.
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                                                • bbyhill
                                                  SBR MVP
                                                  • 09-16-07
                                                  • 2991

                                                  #25
                                                  you have to look at Tale of Ekati because Tagg is on fire now.
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                                                  • VegasDave
                                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                                    • 01-03-07
                                                    • 8056

                                                    #26
                                                    Plus I LOVED Ekati's race at the Wood... have a really good feeling about the 7.

                                                    If it comes 1 / 7 / (3 or 4), I'd hit the Tri 4 times and the Super 3 times.

                                                    Soo... thats kind of what I'm rooting for!
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                                                    • pokernut9999
                                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                                      • 07-25-07
                                                      • 12757

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by LT Profits
                                                      Denis of Cork shocks the world at a decent price!

                                                      Now I like Big Brown mind you, and he is the best horse in the race, but I just don't think he is worthy of being a Triple Crown winner while beating possibly the worst crop of three-year-olds in the history of civilization.
                                                      His Beyer figures say otherwise.

                                                      He will destroy them today by 10+ lengths
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                                                      • bbyhill
                                                        SBR MVP
                                                        • 09-16-07
                                                        • 2991

                                                        #28
                                                        also think BB has the x-factor
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                                                        • EaglesPhan36
                                                          SBR Aristocracy
                                                          • 12-06-06
                                                          • 71662

                                                          #29
                                                          Tri-Box: 1,7,10
                                                          Exacta: 1,7
                                                          For the hell of it, #7 to Win
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                                                          • Wheell
                                                            SBR MVP
                                                            • 01-11-07
                                                            • 1380

                                                            #30
                                                            Hey, you win the 3 races, you win the triple crown. That he is running against some of the slowest animals ever allowed onto the track will be forgotten by history.
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                                                            • LT Profits
                                                              SBR Aristocracy
                                                              • 10-27-06
                                                              • 90963

                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by Wheell
                                                              Hey, you win the 3 races, you win the triple crown. That he is running against some of the slowest animals ever allowed onto the track will be forgotten by history.
                                                              That's exactly my point, If he wins, he'll be mentioned in the same breath as Secretariat, Affirmed and other true champiions of the past, and that's just wrong.

                                                              As for his impressive Beyers, again those lose their validity when you consider the competition. It is easier to run to inflated figures vs. soft competition.
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                                                              • bbyhill
                                                                SBR MVP
                                                                • 09-16-07
                                                                • 2991

                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by LT Profits
                                                                That's exactly my point, If he wins, he'll be mentioned in the same breath as Secretariat, Affirmed and other true champiions of the past, and that's just wrong.

                                                                As for his impressive Beyers, again those lose their validity when you consider the competition. It is easier to run to inflated figures vs. soft competition.


                                                                I dont think it would be wrong when he won from the 20th hole in the Derby and the 12th hole from the Florida Derby.If he wins the Belmont then we can see a Curlin BB matchup but of courst it looks like it will be on the carpet.
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                                                                • TheSensation
                                                                  SBR Hustler
                                                                  • 05-29-08
                                                                  • 97

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by LT Profits
                                                                  That's exactly my point, If he wins, he'll be mentioned in the same breath as Secretariat, Affirmed and other true champiions of the past, and that's just wrong.

                                                                  As for his impressive Beyers, again those lose their validity when you consider the competition. It is easier to run to inflated figures vs. soft competition.
                                                                  LT, it's not wrong. Big Brown has done nothing but run hard and run fast. Nobody stepped up to challenge him in the Preakness. The pansies who, in recent years, skip the preakness and wait to run the Belmont (Birdstone, etc.) don't have a chance against him today (esp. with CD out). I agree with you that unless BB wins in double-digit lengths he won't go down as a Secretariat or Affirmed, but he's still should be remembered as a TC champ and the first one in 30 years. Horse racing's due.
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                                                                  • Long John Silver
                                                                    SBR Rookie
                                                                    • 06-03-08
                                                                    • 20

                                                                    #34
                                                                    At the moment I'm thinking... ex 1 / 3,4,6,7,10
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                                                                    • betplom
                                                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                                                      • 09-20-06
                                                                      • 13444

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by LT Profits
                                                                      As for his impressive Beyers, again those lose their validity when you consider the competition. It is easier to run to inflated figures vs. soft competition.
                                                                      I agree that he has faced softer competition than other TC hopefuls, however he is lightly raced, he has lots of time to prove how good/bad he can really be.

                                                                      The competition has nothing to do with beyer speed figures.

                                                                      "a Beyer number which reflects the time of the race and the inherent speed of the track over which it was run. On the Beyer scale, the top stakes horses in the United States and Canada earn numbers in the 100's, while extremely strong performances may rate as high as the 120's."

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