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  • robmpink
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 01-09-07
    • 13205

    #36
    Originally posted by ThaWoj
    dude rob not to bash you, but do u know anything bout horses? chong gave us a 16-1 shot in a field of 12 that pretty much everyone wrote off as no chance and the horse just misses and you're berating the guy like if he had said nehro or animal kingdom was a lock or if the deuce didnt run a lick...



    hope you at least had him to place chong or keyed some kinda of All-2 2-All exacta
    No sorry I didn't have him to place or in exactas. I had him to win because it was

    100% guarantee winner
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    • robmpink
      SBR Posting Legend
      • 01-09-07
      • 13205

      #37
      Originally posted by kfranz31
      made a good go of it but came up short
      I almost hit a game winning home run but hit the wall. We lost. So sad.
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      • robmpink
        SBR Posting Legend
        • 01-09-07
        • 13205

        #38
        100% guarantee winner
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        • whatsgood5
          Restricted User
          • 10-13-09
          • 15359

          #39
          damn close, i nearly took em
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          • robmpink
            SBR Posting Legend
            • 01-09-07
            • 13205

            #40
            I also came close to f'in Melissa Joan Hart back in the day, but didn't.
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            • davidchong
              SBR MVP
              • 02-10-06
              • 1806

              #41
              yes, i am sad, the horse lose, but not bad for me, around 13k in net winnings, if has won i got around 20k more. I will get more if not banned from top racebooks. Betcris, 5dimes, Sia, bodog, vipsports, youwager, victor chandler.
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              • robmpink
                SBR Posting Legend
                • 01-09-07
                • 13205

                #42
                Originally posted by davidchong
                yes, i am sad, the horse lose, but not bad for me, around 13k in net winnings, if has won i got around 20k more. I will get more if not banned from top racebooks. Betcris, 5dimes, Sia, bodog, vipsports, youwager, victor chandler.
                Of course you did guy.
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                • gryfyn1
                  SBR MVP
                  • 03-30-10
                  • 3285

                  #43
                  where to i send my application to get my money back from the guarantee?
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                  • robmpink
                    SBR Posting Legend
                    • 01-09-07
                    • 13205

                    #44
                    all who followed got CHONGED on the 100% guarantee winner @ Belmont Stakes
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                    • zebra58
                      SBR MVP
                      • 09-04-10
                      • 2283

                      #45
                      no shame in 2nd @odds, nice call chong
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                      • robmpink
                        SBR Posting Legend
                        • 01-09-07
                        • 13205

                        #46
                        Originally posted by zebra58
                        no shame in 2nd @odds, nice call chong
                        Unless you played it to place or show, no. Not 100% guarantee winner @ Belmont Stakes.
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                        • geebert74
                          SBR MVP
                          • 09-03-09
                          • 2445

                          #47
                          I wish there were guarantees in this fukked up life I live.
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                          • chargers4222
                            SBR MVP
                            • 01-16-10
                            • 4702

                            #48
                            there are, you just suck at betting. good pick chong i had him to show
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                            • aggieshawn
                              SBR MVP
                              • 01-24-07
                              • 4377

                              #49
                              I give you props for this pick..
                              I lost 2,000 betting against him in the top 3..
                              I suck
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                              • davidchong
                                SBR MVP
                                • 02-10-06
                                • 1806

                                #50
                                Originally posted by gryfyn1
                                where to i send my application to get my money back from the guarantee?
                                I will post a winner soon...
                                You will get back your money and more...

                                American Players usually bet across the board on horses with odds over 10-1....
                                I hope most of the readers have this across the board...
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                                • Hoja Verdes
                                  SBR MVP
                                  • 08-23-06
                                  • 1403

                                  #51
                                  Originally posted by robmpink
                                  Unless you played it to place or show, no. Not 100% guarantee winner @ Belmont Stakes.
                                  You want some cheese with your whine, you crybaby? Someone get this guy some vagisil because his pussy hurts. This place never ceases to amaze me. Wow, you get what you pay for you dumbass. Go cry in your beer somewhere else you f\*g.
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                                  • Hoja Verdes
                                    SBR MVP
                                    • 08-23-06
                                    • 1403

                                    #52
                                    Originally posted by Dirty Sanchez
                                    Which...if any today...are Mudders? The track is going to be sloppy....any insight?
                                    Damn you were on the right track with that post. Ice was the only horse with a prior win on a sloppy track. Just as in football, never underestimate weather conditions.
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                                    • callmejrk1
                                      SBR Sharp
                                      • 05-21-10
                                      • 383

                                      #53
                                      another 100 percent down the drain kinda dumb to say 100 percent but that is how it goes with degenerate bettors
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                                      • dugbug15
                                        SBR Wise Guy
                                        • 04-13-10
                                        • 533

                                        #54
                                        the daily racing form booklet has an information chart located before the 1rst race of the track.it lists several categories pertaining to that track,such as,best trainer,best jockey,best comparitve speed,best speed at the distance,higest money earned on an off course.etc,etc,etc.ruler on ice was listed on best comparitive speed,higest money earned on an off track,and best jockey.he had 2 mudraces,and,won one,and,ran 2nd in the other.that,s enough ammo to rank him as a contender in my books.unfortunately for me.i got a free copy of the regular racing form,and did not see these positive angles.fond the little book later,and then isaw these facts.
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                                        • ByeShea
                                          SBR Hall of Famer
                                          • 06-30-08
                                          • 8115

                                          #55
                                          Ruler On Ice's trainer was not even confident with the horse - can't explain why he won. Had been suffering from a chest infection ... wins the Belmont!

                                          Long shot happens all the time in any Triple Crown race, but truly surprised trainers at the Belmont Stakes? That's rare.

                                          Johnny V - he is a really good jockey but bad rides at Preakness and Belmont. Thing is, Animal Kingdom was horse enough to win the Triple Crown. Jerry Bailey on AK would have won all 3, JV's worst ride was Preakness. Trip Crown a very difficult thing to do.
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                                          • aceking
                                            SBR MVP
                                            • 09-07-05
                                            • 4782

                                            #56
                                            its a 50% lock , maybe he will win the next race .
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                                            • robmpink
                                              SBR Posting Legend
                                              • 01-09-07
                                              • 13205

                                              #57
                                              Originally posted by Hoja Verdes
                                              You want some cheese with your whine, you crybaby? Someone get this guy some vagisil because his pussy hurts. This place never ceases to amaze me. Wow, you get what you pay for you dumbass. Go cry in your beer somewhere else you f\*g.

                                              What is your story? Roid rage, on edge from too much meth or your wife left you? No one is crying in their beer, no one is getting vagisil because his pussy hurts, no one is getting what they paid for.

                                              He made a bold pick and the title of the thread was what prompted my comments. It isn't sunshine and lollipops here. He won some money. All is well w/ him. For anyone to blindly follow or bet a lot based on the pick, it was up to them. I had my fun with the thread so that is that.
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                                              • megamillionslose
                                                SBR MVP
                                                • 08-20-08
                                                • 2758

                                                #58
                                                Offshore books ABSOLUTELY LOVE booking horse racing wagers

                                                A majority of horse racing bettors lose their ass.That's why most offshore books are willing to offer up to 10% rebates as well as refusing to commingle wagers with the host track.Please enlighten us as to why some of the top offshore books have banned you from wagering
                                                Originally posted by davidchong
                                                yes, i am sad, the horse lose, but not bad for me, around 13k in net winnings, if has won i got around 20k more. I will get more if not banned from top racebooks. Betcris, 5dimes, Sia, bodog, vipsports, youwager, victor chandler.
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                                                • davidchong
                                                  SBR MVP
                                                  • 02-10-06
                                                  • 1806

                                                  #59
                                                  Originally posted by megamillionslose
                                                  A majority of horse racing bettors lose their ass.That's why most offshore books are willing to offer up to 10% rebates as well as refusing to commingle wagers with the host track.Please enlighten us as to why some of the top offshore books have banned you from wagering
                                                  They banned me only from the racebook. SIA, youwager and Vip banned completely.

                                                  Why?... this is one from i guess his name is the famous Tony Dimes...



                                                  On Sun, Oct 12, 2008 at 7:06 PM, Info <info@5dimes.com> wrote:
                                                  Dear Customer,

                                                  Greetings! The general manager has decided that your action in the racebook is no longer wanted. However, you may continue to use the rest of our services without any restrictions.

                                                  Best Regards,

                                                  Lewis
                                                  Customer Service Manager
                                                  5Dimes Sportsbook & Casino
                                                  1-800-305-3517
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                                                  • davidchong
                                                    SBR MVP
                                                    • 02-10-06
                                                    • 1806

                                                    #60
                                                    and this other one:

                                                    Dear Mr. Chong,


                                                    This is Dave, Customer Service Manager for Bodog Sports and Racebook. I apologize for the delay in my reply.



                                                    As mentioned in the previous email, the decision to place wagering limits on an account is not something we do without serious deliberation and is not something we do in haste. There was a full review of your account including your past history with us since you joined Bodog in 2004. In the end, the decision was made to place these limits on your account because we are a recreational book and the activity in your account was indicative of a professional bettor. Other books may target players of this level but we target more of a recreational level player.

                                                    I'm sorry that you don't agree with the decision but this decision is final and may not be reversed. If you wish to discuss this further, you may contact me directly at 1-877-GIDDY-UP (443-3987) then ask for Dave at ext. 5188.



                                                    Best regards,

                                                    Dave
                                                    Customer Service Manager
                                                    Bodog Sports and Racebook

                                                    horses@bodoglife.com
                                                    1-877-GIDDY-UP (443-3987)
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                                                    • senseionline
                                                      SBR MVP
                                                      • 08-20-10
                                                      • 1819

                                                      #61
                                                      look like sharp horsey bettor got limit guy is winner
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                                                      • zebra58
                                                        SBR MVP
                                                        • 09-04-10
                                                        • 2283

                                                        #62
                                                        looks like he crushed them
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                                                        • fakeandthedrive
                                                          Restricted User
                                                          • 08-18-10
                                                          • 249

                                                          #63
                                                          well.. I collected. thank$
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                                                          • beanbag
                                                            SBR MVP
                                                            • 01-21-10
                                                            • 2364

                                                            #64
                                                            very nice boys get that cash!!!
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                                                            • andywend
                                                              SBR MVP
                                                              • 05-20-07
                                                              • 4805

                                                              #65
                                                              In the end, the decision was made to place these limits on your account because we are a recreational book and the activity in your account was indicative of a professional bettor. Other books may target players of this level but we target more of a recreational level player.
                                                              Translated from BoDog to a language we can all understand:

                                                              In the end, the decision was made to place these limits on your account because we are a book that only wants to cater to bettors who lose consistently. While other books are willing to take on all comers like Pinnacle, Bookmaker and the Greek, we at BoDog prefer to deal only with bettors who have no clue as to what they are doing. Since we don't want to have a reputation of kicking out players, we instead drastically reduce our limits to all players who are able to beat us on a consistent basis.
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                                                              • dtp
                                                                SBR MVP
                                                                • 09-17-09
                                                                • 2106

                                                                #66
                                                                well it sure looks as if someone is a very good horse player here.
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                                                                • andywend
                                                                  SBR MVP
                                                                  • 05-20-07
                                                                  • 4805

                                                                  #67
                                                                  Most races are composed of three groups of horses. The first are entered by competent owner/trainers who have evaluated the conditions and determined that their entrants have a real chance to win. The second are also entered by competent persons who are not trying to win, but are using the race to move the horse forward in condition for a later race. The third are entered by incompetent owner/trainers who don't really know what they are doing and are just hoping for the best. Big races, especially Triple Crown races have a fourth group. These are no chance horses entered by egomaniac owners, just for the supposed cachet of being able to say "I had a horse in the Derby (or Preakness or Belmont)". The operators of Churchill Downs have successfully (for the most part) eliminated this last group by mandating that entrants have total purse winnings of Graded Stakes in the top 20 of eligible horses. After the Derby, when reality sets in for most owner/trainers, the latter group swells to fill out the race. Horses from group two are absent and rarely have any from group three. This makes a race like the Belmont easier to handicap and increases the odds on those in group one. This year's Belmont has a total of 12 horses, 7 from group one and 5 from group four. The race by post position:

                                                                  1, Master of Hounds - This lightly raced well bred son of the Mr. Prospector sire Kingmambo (stands for $300,000) is conditioned by leading European trainer Aiden O'Brien and piloted by top rider Garrett Gomez. His first start this year was in a $2,000,000 event in Dubai pitting many of Europe's prominent 3yos in which he finished a close second, beaten a nose. His second race was in the Ky Derby, where he was shuffled back in traffic and rallied in the stretch to finish a creditable 5th, beaten 5 lengths. It should be taken into consideration that the 12 furlongs of the Belmont is a distance rarely run here in the U.S, but is the norm for big races in Europe, so a case can be made that O'Brien was using the Derby as a prep for the Belmont and a later campaign on the Continent. This theory has substance, since Gomez is back on board. He would have the pick of field (except Animal Kingdom), so that's significant. He's 10/1 on the Morning Line and if he goes off at anything close to that price, it's like stealing money. My co-top choice.

                                                                  2. Stay Thirsty - A classic example of a group four (see above) entrant. He's owned by a self described "street kid from Queens" who made a billion bucks developing Vitamin Water, and he loves the limelight. The horse has beaten maidens and a weak Gotham field in 7 races. You couldn't find him with a search warrant in the Derby, staggering in 12th. No chance.

                                                                  3. Ruler on Ice - Another group four type whose earnings were not high enough to qualify him for the Derby. He's 2 for 6, his best effort being a second in the Tesio at Pimlico behind Concealed Identity (a bad 10th in the Preakness). No chance.

                                                                  4. Santiva - A decent sixth in the Derby, he appears to be a cut below a top horse, but he tries hard and, with luck, could hit the board, even though winning would appear beyond his capabilities. Comparable in ability to Brilliant Speed and Mucho Macho Man.

                                                                  5. Brilliant Speed - A disappointment in the Derby, he closed with his typical late run, but was too far back early to figure in the outcome. The Belmont distance should be right up his ally and he has some kind of chance. One of the contenders.

                                                                  6. Nehro - Tipped all over the joint at Louisville, he finished a well beaten second to Animal Kingdom in a good effort. That was his third second in a row in Graded stakes, the classic definition of a "sucker horse". In fact, his only win was against maidens at Oaklawn. Obviously has talent and must be considered, but he seems to "wait for horses". Can't be left out of calculations.

                                                                  7. Monzon - Sixth in the recent Peter Pan at Belmont, behind lightly regarded Prime Cut. Appears to be another group four entrant and connections obscure, trainer has only started 19 horses all year. No chance.

                                                                  8. Prime Cut - An under the radar horse, has never raced in a Gr1 event, his best effort being a third in the aforementioned Peter Pan, Would have to show dramatic improvement to even be considered. No chance.

                                                                  9. Animal Kingdom - The obvious choice in here, the easy Derby winner and closing Preakness second solidified his credentials in the latter race as no one shot wonder. Connections outstanding in Motion and Velasquez, only a decline in form could keep him from being one/two. Must be used in all combination wagers. The only question, has the lemon been squeezed dry, with three tough races in the five week span between Derby and Belmont?

                                                                  10. Mucho Macho Man - In the group with Nehro, Brilliant Speed and Santiva as horses with a chance, but at a level below top quality. The rider change to Ramon Dominguez may help, as he is burning up Belmont (6 winners last Sunday). Unlikely winner, but can fill out combination bets.

                                                                  11. Isn't He Perfect - He sure wasn't in the Preakness, checking in a well beaten ninth. Another group four entrant. No chance.

                                                                  12. Shackleford - The surprise Preakness winner on the Bill Daley all the way will try to duplicate that effort in this marathon, a big ask. It can be done (think Bold Forbes and Cordero in 1976 going wire to wire), but this horse is no Bold Forbes and Castanon is no Cordero. He has everything going against him; he breaks from the outside, right in front of the cheering fans, he's a nervous type anyway, it's going to be hot and he'll wash out, and there is speed inside of him. If he can handle all that and still win, I'll take my hat off to him. If not, he probably won't be in the top three.

                                                                  Conclusion. The race will probably be won by Animal Kingdom or Master of Hounds. Suggested wagers:

                                                                  Exacta box, 1/9 Exacta wheels, 1 with 4/5/6/10, 9 with 4/5/6/10
                                                                  I sure wish I read this post before the race as I would have risked $20 on the Group 4 5 horse Exacta Box (2+3+7+8+11). After reading this post, you just knew what was going to happen as a "no chance" horse not only won but finished 1-2.

                                                                  The $20 investment on the Group 4 Exacta Box returned a healthy $464

                                                                  (Off: 6:39 Next Post: 7:20) Surface: Dirt GET PPS: This Racecard | Next Card: 06/15Belmont S. 1 1/2 Miles | 3 Year Olds | STAKES | Open
                                                                  # HORSE JOCKEY WIN PLACE SHOW
                                                                  3 Ruler On Ice J. Valdivia, Jr. $51.50 $26.00 $13.60
                                                                  2 Stay Thirsty J. Castellano $19.40 $10.80
                                                                  5 Brilliant Speed J. Rosario $7.90
                                                                  Times in 5ths: :234 :49 1:142 1:394 2:05 2:304
                                                                  Times in 100ths: :23.92 :49.08 1:14.51 1:39.95 2:05.09 2:30.88
                                                                  Winning Trainer: Breen Kelly | Owner: Hall, George and Lori

                                                                  $2 Exacta (3-2) Paid: $928.00
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                                                                  • megamillionslose
                                                                    SBR MVP
                                                                    • 08-20-08
                                                                    • 2758

                                                                    #68
                                                                    Bookmaker is a f'in joke these days!

                                                                    Management took away all my bet points recently because i had redeemed those for cash twice since October!Pussies must've been scared thinking i was a PRO gambler(LMAO)!On non-Asian handicap overseas soccer matches they had a strict limit of $250 on quite a few matches & moved the odds right after i had placed my wager.TheGreek allows you to wager on non-Asian handicap overseas soccer up to a certain limit & AGAIN if they move the line.Bookmaker refused to post CBKB over/under lines on all games this past season after Right Angle Sports' clients had handed them their asses the past few years.They previously stated they NEVER refuse a wager BUT they are definitely no longer in the same class as TheGreek & Pinnacle
                                                                    Originally posted by andywend
                                                                    Translated from BoDog to a language we can all understand:

                                                                    In the end, the decision was made to place these limits on your account because we are a book that only wants to cater to bettors who lose consistently. While other books are willing to take on all comers like Pinnacle, Bookmaker and the Greek, we at BoDog prefer to deal only with bettors who have no clue as to what they are doing. Since we don't want to have a reputation of kicking out players, we instead drastically reduce our limits to all players who are able to beat us on a consistent basis.
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                                                                    • ncat12
                                                                      SBR MVP
                                                                      • 11-24-09
                                                                      • 1170

                                                                      #69
                                                                      IF YOU HAVE GAMBLED LONG ENOUGH YOU KNOW THAT THERE IS NOOOO 100%-er BUT DAMN TO HAVE THE HORSE FINSH 2ND AND THE EX PAY? 800+ IS PRETTY NICE AND WHAT WAS THT 2 DOLLAR TRI AGAIN..OH I KNOW SWEET, THEN THE SUPER 70,000+EVEN A .10 ONE PAID 7 G'S....VERY NICE PREDICTION, AND I ALSO HOPE YOU HAD EM IN SOMEKIND OF ALL-2 EXACTA
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                                                                      • ThaWoj
                                                                        SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                        • 03-09-10
                                                                        • 6764

                                                                        #70
                                                                        dave do you have a tvg or twinspires account? theyll never limit you and is 100% legal and safe.
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