What should the limit on picks per day be in the tournament contest?

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  • fearless
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    • 08-14-06
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    #1
    What should the limit on picks per day be in the tournament contest?
    I think that the three picks per day limit must be changed for the following reasons:

    1. Limiting people to three bets a day isn't realistic. Whether your bankroll is $10 or $10 million, you're free to do with it what you want. I think the only way to determine the best capper is to make the competition as realistic as possible and, imho, that would mean no limits. If there must be limits, I think 5 per day would be the correct number.

    2. Money management is one of the most important parts of sports betting. Putting no restrictions on the number of bets adds the dimension of money management (in this case unit management) into the equation. The contest not only becomes a test of handicapping ability but money management and it again becomes more realistic. The more realistic it is, the better shot we'll have at the best capper winning.

    3. The limit rule will have to be changed by football season. It won't be possible to have a pick limit during the NFL season so why should there be a pick limit now?

    4. Some people have limited sports knowledge and only stick to one sport. This means that they have a limited number of options. For example, I'm trying to only pick American basketball games because that's all I really know. I have to really press because there's just not many games right now. For example, today there are no basketball games so I wasn't able to make any picks today. On the contrary, tomorrow there's five games but I'll be limited to three picks. There's no reason for me to possibly go out of comfort zone because there's a limit on picks. This again isn't realistic and it could unnecessarily effect the outcome of a match in the future.
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  • goldengoat
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    #2
    i think the contest should be run (or also run) during nov-jan (i like the college hoops)

    but anytime is a good time for a contest

    right now there is hockey + nba + baseball, not bad

    i'll be phucked when all there is left is baseball though
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    • fearless
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      #3
      Everybody please state your reasons for your vote. I would like to hear from picoman and goldengoat in particular.
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      • pico
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        #4
        we all have hot and cold streaks. a good capper is a consistent capper. by limiting 3 games a day, you're forcing the person to be more consistent. plus limiting plays also creates strategies for a come back. and it is more fun for others to watch.

        how fun would it be if everyone makes 10 picks on the first day?
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        • fearless
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          #5
          Originally posted by picoman
          we all have hot and cold streaks. a good capper is a consistent capper. by limiting 3 games a day, you're forcing the person to be more consistent. plus limiting plays also creates strategies for a come back. and it is more fun for others to watch.

          how fun would it be if everyone makes 10 picks on the first day?
          I think limiting it to 5 a day is good for the reasons you mentioned then. For all the reasons I mentioned in the original post of this thread, I feel that three a day is too few. What do you think about 5 a day?
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          • pavyracer
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            • 04-12-07
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            #6
            what contest is this?
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            • pico
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              #7
              Originally posted by fearless
              I think limiting it to 5 a day is good for the reasons you mentioned then. For all the reasons I mentioned in the original post of this thread, I feel that three a day is too few. What do you think about 5 a day?
              really depends on how many days in the next round and how many picks total.
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              • pico
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                #8
                with 2-3 picks, i usually put up my best plays. with 5, i probably has to come up with couple of fillers.
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                • mofome
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                  • 12-19-07
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                  #9
                  2 or 3. more makes the contest a 2 days per round kinda deal.

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                  • fearless
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by picoman
                    with 2-3 picks, i usually put up my best plays. with 5, i probably has to come up with couple of fillers.
                    But 5 a day is the maximum, not the minimum. The minimum would still be 0 of course. It would all be the same just a max of 5 not three, I think.
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                    • fearless
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                      #11
                      Originally posted by pavyracer
                      what contest is this?
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                      • pico
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                        #12
                        well, my strength is mlb, so i can make picks everyday. yours is beaverball, i guess 5 limit is not that bad considering your situation.
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                        • fearless
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                          #13
                          Originally posted by picoman
                          well, my strength is mlb, so i can make picks everyday. yours is beaverball, i guess 5 limit is not that bad considering your situation.
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                          • pavyracer
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                            #14
                            Originally posted by fearless
                            thanks, I missed this one.
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                            • pico
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                              #15
                              Originally posted by fearless
                              i have you admit, you're on heck of beaverball capper. i don't know how you do it cuz all i know is that they like to turn the balls over alot.
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                              • goldengoat
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                                • 11-25-05
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                                #16
                                Originally posted by fearless
                                Everybody please state your reasons for your vote. I would like to hear from picoman and goldengoat in particular.
                                man that threw me for a loop when you asked for my thoughts on that. i'm not used to it.

                                i voted for three. say the limit was 5 or 10 and person A makes all their picks on a certain day early in the morning. person B wakes up late in the day and is P.O.'d that many of his picks were taken. you can argue that person B has the rest of the week but if person B likes Sunday NFL and person A hogged some good picks, it can create friction.

                                also limiting to 3 picks gives more drama cause people follow the daily changes. the mods probably like that it because it increases traffic cause peeps have to come back more often.

                                your points on "its your own bankroll" are valid and I cannot disagree.

                                perhaps when ncaa saturday or nfl sunday is here, a person can increase their max number of plays by one for only one day of the contest

                                in my case i would want it on saturday ncaa basketball
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                                • fearless
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                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by picoman
                                  i have you admit, you're on heck of beaverball capper. i don't know how you do it cuz all i know is that they like to turn the balls over alot.
                                  I don't see as being much different from the NBA. Basketball is basketball, imho. Anyway, I'm just ok, aca looks like the WNBA stud.
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                                  • fearless
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                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by goldengoat
                                    man that threw me for a loop when you asked for my thoughts on that. i'm not used to it.

                                    i voted for three. say the limit was 5 or 10 and person A makes all their picks on a certain day early in the morning. person B wakes up late in the day and is P.O.'d that many of his picks were taken. you can argue that person B has the rest of the week but if person B likes Sunday NFL and person A hogged some good picks, it can create friction.

                                    also limiting to 3 picks gives more drama cause people follow the daily changes. the mods probably like that it because it increases traffic cause peeps have to come back more often.

                                    your points on "its your own bankroll" are valid and I cannot disagree.

                                    perhaps when ncaa saturday or nfl sunday is here, a person can increase their max number of plays by one for only one day of the contest

                                    in my case i would want it on saturday ncaa basketball
                                    How about increasing your max number of picks once in each round. Also, you have to pick your day at the start of the round so there's no cheating with it. How does that sound? I like that idea.
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                                    • goldengoat
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                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by fearless
                                      How about increasing your max number of picks once in each round. Also, you have to pick your day at the start of the round so there's no cheating with it. How does that sound? I like that idea.
                                      that's a good idea but the only counter i can think of at the moment is if a guy picks day 3 to use 4 but then no shows on day 3, and is in need of four plays on the last day to fill his quota, there will be a lot of fuss about it
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                                      • fearless
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                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by goldengoat
                                        that's a good idea but the only counter i can think of at the moment is if a guy picks day 3 to use 4 but then no shows on day 3, and is in need of four plays on the last day to fill his quota, there will be a lot of fuss about it
                                        That goes back to the money management issue. Money management is our responsibility as bettors and it's in an important part of sports betting. I think the max should be allowed to be raised to 5 on any day you choose.

                                        I think 90% of people won't use this option. It won't have any effect on traffic or dramatic impact. This rule change would only make the competition more realistic and again that's necessary to decide who the best capper is, imho.
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                                        • fearless
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                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by fearless
                                          That goes back to the money management issue. Money management is our responsibility as bettors and it's in an important part of sports betting. I think the max should be allowed to be raised to 5 on any day you choose.

                                          I think 90% of people won't use this option. It won't have any effect on traffic or dramatic impact. This rule change would only make the competition more realistic and again that's necessary to decide who the best capper is, imho.
                                          I think this is a good solution. Anyone else have any thoughts?
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                                          • pico
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                                            #22
                                            rainbow, the trend is more picks every round. i bet by the finals, we'll probably have 20 picks over 1 week with 5 picks max each day.

                                            the limit per day is to prevent someone just get lucky and advance.
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                                            • fearless
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                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by picoman
                                              rainbow, the trend is more picks every round. i bet by the finals, we'll probably have 20 picks over 1 week with 5 picks max each day.

                                              the limit per day is to prevent someone just get lucky and advance.
                                              I'm gonna have to start picking another sport besides basketball then. Better start studying now. lol

                                              I used to be a big baseball fan when I was a kid so I have a feel for it. I just hating baseball games.
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                                              • mofome
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                                                #24
                                                we want people participating in more than one sport, on more than one day. expand your horizons and enjoy.
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                                                • pico
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                                                  #25
                                                  tons of wnba games tomorrow. why are you worried? you're pretty much only forced to make 1 none basketball picks. just stick with basketball.

                                                  i made 2 tennis picks for fun this round.
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                                                  • fearless
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                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by picoman
                                                    tons of wnba games tomorrow. why are you worried? you're pretty much only forced to make 1 none basketball picks. just stick with basketball.

                                                    i made 2 tennis picks for fun this round.
                                                    I'm fine for this round but if I advance I might have problems.
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                                                    • fearless
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                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by mofome
                                                      we want people participating in more than one sport
                                                      Why? It's not necessarily realistic. Why make the contest artificially unrealistic?
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                                                      • pico
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                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by fearless
                                                        I'm fine for this round but if I advance I might have problems.
                                                        why? next round probably starts on friday. plenty of beaverball friday, sat, sun, mon. i finished all my picks in 4 days.
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                                                        • fearless
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                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by picoman
                                                          why? next round probably starts on friday. plenty of beaverball friday, sat, sun, mon. i finished all my picks in 4 days.
                                                          Hopefully I can but with so few games to choose from I have to make a play on almost every game. That's freaking hard. I'm more comfortable with that than picking baseball though.

                                                          As for the rules in the contest, if it's unnecessarily unrealistic it makes the result kinda invalid. I'm not saying I'm the best handicapper at all, I just want to see everyone get a fair shot.
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