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Who is the greatest Poker player of all time???
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bigbet1234SBR Wise Guy
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#36Comment -
timmyboy34243SBR MVP
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#37Unger, if not at the top there aren't many above him. Was so far ahead of his time it's scary..........Comment -
hitthew8roomSBR Sharp
- 11-09-09
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#38obviously ivey, this is dumbComment -
stevenashModerator
- 01-17-11
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#39Ivey is more intimidation then anything else.Comment -
ByeSheaSBR Hall of Famer
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#40Ben Affleck.Comment -
MadTigerSBR MVP
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#41Cosign. Points on recharge if you remind me.Originally posted by big0marStu by far, not even close Young guys here need a history lessonComment -
pinchylarueSBR MVP
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#42stu unger hands downComment -
Joe DogsSBR MVP- 07-20-09
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#43Stu"The Kid"Unger
Back in the day he was regarded as the best No limit hold'em player,hands down.
Stu was also a gin Rummy genius.....He was untouchable in this game.Comment -
FishheadSBR Aristocracy- 08-11-05
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#44Folks ......read the question correctly.
ALL-TIME
No way D.N. is the best of alltime..............geezus h crickits.
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GlitchSBR Posting Legend
- 07-08-09
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#45if you play 10-2, youre not a top 3 player all-time. he's one of the greatest poker characters alltimeComment -
FishheadSBR Aristocracy- 08-11-05
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#46CHIP REESE would make many poker experts top three, and many would vote him #1.
REESE
DOYLE
IVEYComment -
BRAVES1985SBR MVP
- 05-23-10
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#47ya reese was for sure one of the bestOriginally posted by FishheadCHIP REESE would make many poker experts top three, and many would vote him #1. REESE DOYLE IVEY
great cash game player
RIPComment -
gregmSBR MVP- 03-14-11
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#48What? That is absurd, the guy is one of the most successful poker players of all time,10 bracelets and a millionaire many times over.Originally posted by freeVICKwho the fukk said doyle?? that fat fukk probably hasnt won in decade. i guarantee you all the young pros look at him as easy money
I once read a great response on a poker forum 5 years ago that looked at winnings and wealth. alot of guys who would be ranked as the ones with the highest income wouldn't make that list after Black Friday.
This was from a full contact forum post five years ago, but its still pretty relevant. http://www.fullcontactpoker.com/poke...t32803-50.html
"I still have to say Paul Phillips has to be the highest net worth player of the "big names". I would rank the players in this order.
Total Income (poker/endorsements/etc)
Paul Phillips
Doyle Brunson
Chip Reese
Phil Gordon
Mike Sexton
Phil Hellmuth
Poker Income Cash Games
Phil Ivey (spends more time than n e one else playing cards)
John D'Agostino (guy makes killing on Full Tilt every night)
Doyle Brunson
Chip Reese
Johnny Chan
Poker Income Tournaments (not just WSOP)
Chris Ferguson (always in the hunt in every tournament)
Doyle Brunson
Erik Seidel (Great tournament player)
Johnny Chan
John Juanda (I know he's young, but he's always right there)
Players that I have read about having bankroll issues
Amir Vahedi
Chris Moneymaker (fluke 2003 win, has done nothing since)
Mike Matusow (big swings, good player though)
Gus Hansen (aggressive style has gotten him in trouble)
Sam Farha
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BRAVES1985SBR MVP
- 05-23-10
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#49i think he died a while backOriginally posted by gregmWhat? That is absurd, the guy is one of the most successful poker players of all time. I once read a great response on a poker forum 5 years ago that looked at winnings and wealth. alot of guys who would be ranked as the ones with the highest income wouldn't make that list after Black Friday. This was from a full contact forum post five years ago, but its still pretty relevant. http://www.fullcontactpoker.com/poke...t32803-50.html "I still have to say Paul Phillips has to be the highest net worth player of the "big names". I would rank the players in this order. Total Income (poker/endorsements/etc) Paul Phillips Doyle Brunson Chip Reese Phil Gordon Mike Sexton Phil Hellmuth Poker Income Cash Games Phil Ivey (spends more time than n e one else playing cards) John D'Agostino (guy makes killing on Full Tilt every night) Doyle Brunson Chip Reese Johnny Chan Poker Income Tournaments (not just WSOP) Chris Ferguson (always in the hunt in every tournament) Doyle Brunson Erik Seidel (Great tournament player) Johnny Chan John Juanda (I know he's young, but he's always right there) Players that I have read about having bankroll issues Amir Vahedi Chris Moneymaker (fluke 2003 win, has done nothing since) Mike Matusow (big swings, good player though) Gus Hansen (aggressive style has gotten him in trouble) Sam FarhaComment -
daneblazerBARRELED IN @ SBR!
- 09-14-08
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#50You can argue that Doyle has done more for the game of poker than any other player. He has to be in the discussion.
You can't really compare him to the current player pool right now. That's like saying Michael Jordan and Joe Montana aren't good players because the young guys today would school them.Comment -
8ArIvd5SBR MVP- 04-24-10
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#51tournament income alone doesn't make you the best tournament player.Originally posted by gregmWhat? That is absurd, the guy is one of the most successful poker players of all time,10 bracelets and a millionaire many times over.
I once read a great response on a poker forum 5 years ago that looked at winnings and wealth. alot of guys who would be ranked as the ones with the highest income wouldn't make that list after Black Friday.
This was from a full contact forum post five years ago, but its still pretty relevant. http://www.fullcontactpoker.com/poke...t32803-50.html
"I still have to say Paul Phillips has to be the highest net worth player of the "big names". I would rank the players in this order.
Total Income (poker/endorsements/etc)
Paul Phillips
Doyle Brunson
Chip Reese
Phil Gordon
Mike Sexton
Phil Hellmuth
Poker Income Cash Games
Phil Ivey (spends more time than n e one else playing cards)
John D'Agostino (guy makes killing on Full Tilt every night)
Doyle Brunson
Chip Reese
Johnny Chan
Poker Income Tournaments (not just WSOP)
Chris Ferguson (always in the hunt in every tournament)
Doyle Brunson
Erik Seidel (Great tournament player)
Johnny Chan
John Juanda (I know he's young, but he's always right there)
Players that I have read about having bankroll issues
Amir Vahedi
Chris Moneymaker (fluke 2003 win, has done nothing since)
Mike Matusow (big swings, good player though)
Gus Hansen (aggressive style has gotten him in trouble)
Sam Farha
hands down, ungar was the best tournament player of all time.
outside of tournaments is a different story.Comment -
Nittany LionSBR MVP
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#52No such thing as a "best poker player" the game is mostly luck.Comment -
k13SBR Posting Legend
- 07-16-10
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#53Yeah the best part about negreanu is he calls out the opponents cards and still makes the wrong call.Originally posted by Glitchnot true. nobody can read people like him, youve never seen anyone call out opponents cards like he does. ive even seen him do this to real pros and in cash games. the top 2 in my book are negreanu and ivey. hard to argue with dwan, the numbers dont really lie and his consistency is amazing.
i guess i didnt read the all-time part. stu ungar is the correct answer.
He's a calling station.
Still good in tournaments overall.Comment -
Emily_HainesSBR Posting Legend
- 04-14-09
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#54I laugh at all you idiots that say Ungar was the best. When the guy died he did not have $800 to his name. He had to beg people to stake him in tournaments. That don't sound like the worlds greatest poker player to me.Comment -
MadTigerSBR MVP
- 04-19-09
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#55I can see the pattern. All three are proficient at MULTIPLE forms of poker.Originally posted by FishheadCHIP REESE would make many poker experts top three, and many would vote him #1. REESE DOYLE IVEY
CHIP REESE WSOP Titles:
1978 $1,000 Seven-Card Stud Split $19,200 1982 $5,000 Limit 7 Card Stud $92,500 2006 $50,000 H.O.R.S.E. World Championship $1,784,640
DOYLE BRUNSON WSOP Titles:
1976 $5,000 Deuce to Seven Draw $80,250 1976 $10,000 No Limit Hold'em World Championship $230,000 1977 $1,000 Seven-Card Stud Split $62,500 1977 $10,000 No Limit Hold'em World Championship $340,000 1978 $5,000 Seven-Card Stud $68,000 1979 $600 Mixed Doubles (with Starla Brodie)[8] $4,500 1991 $2,500 No Limit Hold'em $208,000 1998 $1,500 Seven-Card Razz $93,000 2003 $2,000 H.O.R.S.E. $84,080 2005 $5,000 No Limit Shorthanded Texas Hold'em (6 players per table) $367,800
PHIL IVEY WSOP Titles:
2000 $2,500 Pot Limit Omaha $195,000 2002 $2,500 7 Card Stud Hi/Lo $118,440 2002 $2,000 S.H.O.E. $107,540 2002 $1,500 7 Card Stud $132,000 2005 $5,000 Pot Limit Omaha $635,603 2009 $2,500 No-Limit 2-7 Draw Lowball $96,367 2009 $2,500 Omaha Hi/Lo / 7 Card Stud Hi/Lo $220,538 2010 $3,000 H.O.R.S.E. $329,840Comment -
MadTigerSBR MVP
- 04-19-09
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#56Poker playing is separate from substance abuse and mental illness issues. That's like saying if Tiger Woods starts fukcing off all of his money, he won't go down as one of the best ever.Originally posted by Emily_HainesI laugh at all you idiots that say Ungar was the best. When the guy died he did not have $800 to his name. He had to beg people to stake him in tournaments. That don't sound like the worlds greatest poker player to me.Comment -
pinchylarueSBR MVP
- 01-04-11
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#57he had an addiction to drugs and took care of his daughter with his last tourny winnings. he IS the best and ALWAYS will be IMO.Originally posted by Emily_HainesI laugh at all you idiots that say Ungar was the best. When the guy died he did not have $800 to his name. He had to beg people to stake him in tournaments. That don't sound like the worlds greatest poker player to me.
btw just because someone is poor,that doesn't mean they didn't have the most skill of all time. I guess it's if you think the player is greater , by the money he makes.Comment -
pinchylarueSBR MVP
- 01-04-11
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#58yeah thats what I was trying to get at in my post, but you said it betterOriginally posted by MadTigerPoker playing is separate from substance abuse and mental illness issues. That's like saying if Tiger Woods starts fukcing off all of his money, he won't go down as one of the best ever.
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stevenashModerator
- 01-17-11
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#59It amazes me how you can be so stupid in one post, and Einstein in another.Originally posted by Emily_HainesI laugh at all you idiots that say Ungar was the best. When the guy died he did not have $800 to his name. He had to beg people to stake him in tournaments. That don't sound like the worlds greatest poker player to me.
He had a six figure a year coke habit, he lost a lot of his poker money on sports, he spent tons on his family........
On the felt table he had no equal then, and nobody today could have beaten him probably, but we'll never know.Comment -
BRAVES1985SBR MVP
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#60guys you cant go by just tournaments
guys like reese unger chan ect have skooled vegas clowns for years in cash games
doyle's net worth is over 100 milComment -
GlitchSBR Posting Legend
- 07-08-09
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#61Originally posted by k13Yeah the best part about negreanu is he calls out the opponents cards and still makes the wrong call.
He's a calling station.
Still good in tournaments overall.
he makes the laydown sometimes but he just has the gamble in his blood but thats way more skillful than not knowing what youre against and still goin.Comment -
CongruencySBR Wise Guy
- 04-12-10
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#62Originally posted by Glitchnot true. nobody can read people like him, youve never seen anyone call out opponents cards like he does. ive even seen him do this to real pros and in cash games. the top 2 in my book are negreanu and ivey. hard to argue with dwan, the numbers dont really lie and his consistency is amazing.
i guess i didnt read the all-time part. stu ungar is the correct answer.
LMAO
youre clueless buddy
all the TOP pros (ivey, dwan, patrik, etc.) can call cards, theyre just not dumb enough to call it out loud
why would you ever call someone's hand out loud, especially if the opponent is a skillful player...he can make adjustments based on that...luckily for daniel the guy he was HU with was a nobody donk
how do you defend him getting his ass handed to him in high stakes cash games?
even he had to rebuild his game these past 2 years, no fukkin chance he's in the top 5 players today, and top 10 might be a stretchComment -
GeeSBR MVP
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#63If we are talking greatest of ALL time, I don't think you even get past Ungar.
It is an absolute no-brainer.
Stu was one of a kind.Comment -
gregmSBR MVP- 03-14-11
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#64I totally agree about stu unger, people who claim he wasnt great because he died broke in a motel room never saw him play poker or dont understand the history of the game, he may have been a failure as a human being but he was a genius at cards, not just poker but blackjack and gin rummy too.
I love that quote from him " "Some day, I suppose it's possible for someone to be a better no limit hold em player than me. I doubt it, but it could happen. But, I swear to you, I don't see how anyone could ever play gin better than me." Stu Unger
Doyle deserves all the credit for the bracelets and the longevity, Archie Karas was another one that deserves mention as one of the greatest streaks and one of the greatest all around gamblers, he beat Unger and Reese, and chip reeese was certainly the greatest at cash games, but Stu Unger was without a doubt a one of a kind genius.
Archie Karas is certainly worth a mention here thoughComment -
pinchylarueSBR MVP
- 01-04-11
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#65dwan?????Originally posted by CongruencyLMAO youre clueless buddy all the TOP pros (ivey, dwan, patrik, etc.) can call cards, theyre just not dumb enough to call it out loud why would you ever call someone's hand out loud, especially if the opponent is a skillful player...he can make adjustments based on that...luckily for daniel the guy he was HU with was a nobody donk how do you defend him getting his ass handed to him in high stakes cash games? even he had to rebuild his game these past 2 years, no fukkin chance he's in the top 5 players today, and top 10 might be a stretch
wikipedia his wins/losses and get then come back to this thread and make the same statement.
bottom line is dwan is a fish and lets his emotions dictate his play.Comment -
jkilla990SBR Wise Guy
- 08-28-10
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#661. Ungar
2. Ivey
2. DwanComment -
JOEY_TTSBR Rookie
- 02-25-11
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GlitchSBR Posting Legend
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#68"why would you ever call someone's hand out loud"Originally posted by CongruencyLMAO
youre clueless buddy
all the TOP pros (ivey, dwan, patrik, etc.) can call cards, theyre just not dumb enough to call it out loud
why would you ever call someone's hand out loud, especially if the opponent is a skillful player...he can make adjustments based on that...luckily for daniel the guy he was HU with was a nobody donk
how do you defend him getting his ass handed to him in high stakes cash games?
even he had to rebuild his game these past 2 years, no fukkin chance he's in the top 5 players today, and top 10 might be a stretch
youre the clueless one if you really dont know the answer to that question. to see them skip a breath or look like a ghost or to better measure the tone of a response when you ask them a dumb question just to hear their voice. to rattle them.
if they move all in and youre last to act 2-handed and hes just making a decision of whether to go with you or not, then he says their hand, whats dumb about that if the moneys in already. he does ok in cash games.Comment -
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