34 years old and at 174? I would have to say no. Gotta start breaking down sooner rather than later, right?
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teaserpleaser
BARRELED IN @ SBR!
08-14-08
26015
#3
Doubtful maybe can the phillies score some runs for him not just talking about this game
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VegasInsider
SBR Posting Legend
12-12-10
14593
#4
Doubtful. He'll have to win about 18 games a year for the next 7 years. Every stint on the DL for the next 7 years makes it almost impossible for the task to be completed. The day's of seeing 300-win pitchers are all but over....it's becoming one of the most difficult milestones in all of sports to obtain.
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BRAVES1985
SBR MVP
05-23-10
4250
#5
well he just turned 34
so he will hit 200 next year at 35
it will be close
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VegasInsider
SBR Posting Legend
12-12-10
14593
#6
Sabathia has 160 wins and is 4 years younger...he has a better chance than Roy in my opinion. Jamie Moyer has 267 wins at the age of 48, but who knows how many more starts he has left. These are really the only pitchers with any chance of getting to 300 right now.
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BRAVES1985
SBR MVP
05-23-10
4250
#7
Originally posted by VegasInsider
Sabathia has 160 wins and is 4 years younger...he has a better chance than Roy in my opinion. Jamie Moyer has 267 wins at the age of 48, but who knows how many more starts he has left. These are really the only pitchers with any chance of getting to 300 right now.
ya sabathia has a great chance
moyer 48 thats crazy but i dont think he will make it
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gryfyn1
SBR MVP
03-30-10
3285
#8
its possible, but only at 174 its still to early to start thinking about it. Like was said Sabathia is only 30 and 160, Tim Hudson is only 1 year older than Halladay and has 169 wins.
As far as his chances from the ages of 35 on here are some win totals of the lasted to win 300/
halladay.... no... not happening. especially if he goes deep into the postseason enough times.
moyer... i'll be rootin for him, gonna be tough if he throws on a Mariners jersey, though.
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majestece
SBR Sharp
05-19-10
425
#10
I guess he will hit no less than 270.
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geebert74
SBR MVP
09-03-09
2445
#11
I dont think he can do it... It is just too far to go...
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JMUplayer
SBR MVP
08-27-09
2765
#12
250 is going to be the new mark before it's all said and done..... The game has changed.
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shock11
SBR Wise Guy
05-16-08
838
#13
I can still see him pitching good at 40
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scottie2005
SBR Wise Guy
07-15-10
649
#14
Don't think Halladay will make it, hard not to break down when you get that old
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Bostongambler
BARRELED IN @ SBR!
02-01-08
35581
#15
I would have to say no as well. Even 6 more years with 20 wins ( which is asking a lot) won't do it.
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stevenash
Moderator
01-17-11
65584
#16
Moose could have, he wound up with 270, had three more years in the tank at 10 wins per.
He chose to end on the twenty win season, he chose to coach his college bound kid, he chose his family, he's got a high paying executive gig on the little league board, oh, yeah, he hated Girardi's guts, that helped his retirement decision too.
Halladay can win 300, it's up to him, the same way it was up to Moose.
He, doesn't need the '300' tag next to his name.
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zoso11871
SBR Sharp
01-04-10
452
#17
At his age, I really can't see him hitting the 300 mark.
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jbrent95
SBR MVP
12-07-09
1221
#18
I don't think he will make it to 300. It's about innings, and he pitches late into games.
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SECOND SHIFT
Restricted User
04-15-10
338
#19
Yes. He will pitch fewer innings as he gets older, he will work 6-7 innings, right now he goes deep into the game.
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BRAVES1985
SBR MVP
05-23-10
4250
#20
Originally posted by stevenash
Moose could have, he wound up with 270, had three more years in the tank at 10 wins per. He chose to end on the twenty win season, he chose to coach his college bound kid, he chose his family, he's got a high paying executive gig on the little league board, oh, yeah, he hated Girardi's guts, that helped his retirement decision too. Halladay can win 300, it's up to him, the same way it was up to Moose. He, doesn't need the '300' tag next to his name.
ya i thought moose would of for sure especially after how good he was his last season
but what a way to go out 20 wins
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dochall2u
SBR Hustler
05-02-11
90
#21
It would be very tough.Not to take anything away from him.All those years in AL east;somewhere else he would have been a lock.
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stevenash
Moderator
01-17-11
65584
#22
Originally posted by BRAVES1985
ya i thought moose would of for sure especially after how good he was his last season
Moose was/is my favorite, even when he was an Oriole (and I'm a die hard NYY fan)
He was amazing the second half of 2008, from august 1 on, he was 7-2 against those thumping lineups.
If he walked a batter, it was by design, the consummate (like Maddux) thinking mans pitcher.
One scout said, "when on, Mussina's overhand curve ball is the most devastating pitch in the game".
His career WHIP of 1.1 is startling if you consider the division he pitched in his entire career.
Got his advanced degree from Stanford in three years compiling a 4.1 Gpa (based on 4.0) another scout once said "he can explain it all to you, but you wouldn't understand it"
Never disgraced the game, pitched the game right.
Behind the scenes (like many other vets) dislike Girardi, a lot.
Girardi used to piss him off, telling him how to pitch and shit, the last straw was when Girardi came out to the mound, told Moose to walk Manny to pitch to Ortiz, Moose was owning Manny all season, told him not a good idea, I can get him, long story short, walked Manny, Ortiz doubled... boy was Moose pissed, he easily could have gotten two years with a third year option after 2008, didn't want to pitch for Girardi, didn't want to go anyplace else, like I said, was already an executive on the little league board of directors, has a talented kid (like Kyle Drabek) coming.
MOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOSE
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Doc JS
SBR Hall of Famer
09-15-06
6885
#23
He could...but the odds are against him. He will have to stay healthy. He will have to continue to play on good teams. And he will have to WANT to win 300 games.
As someone else already stated, he's got to win 18 a year for the next seven years. And, the steroid era aside, you don't get better as you get closer to 40.
Doc
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The DiB
SBR Wise Guy
11-22-09
510
#24
This is proving why Cy Young's 511 wins is arguably the most unbreakable record is sports.
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biggamer3
SBR MVP
04-16-07
2163
#25
will be close though, IMO he gets between 275 and 350
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Jericholic
SBR MVP
02-15-10
3099
#26
Originally posted by The DiB
This is proving why Cy Young's 511 wins is arguably the most unbreakable record is sports.
The only other records that you could ever argue are as unbreakable are also pitching records from the early part of last century. Cy Young's 511 wins, 749 complete games (and his 316 losses) as well as Walter Johnsons 110 career shutouts will never even be approached.
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darren125
Restricted User
01-04-11
135
#27
No way. The days of 300 wins are over.
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Doc JS
SBR Hall of Famer
09-15-06
6885
#28
Originally posted by biggamer3
will be close though, IMO he gets between 275 and 350
That's quite a range.
If he gets to 300, he will just eek over. He won't sniff 350...he'd have to average 17.5 games a year for the next 10 years which would take him to age 45.
Doc
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jjgold
SBR Aristocracy
07-20-05
388179
#29
lucky if he wins 210
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Duby
SBR MVP
01-26-09
3608
#30
great pitcher but too old to reach 300
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Bswitz32
SBR Sharp
07-24-09
460
#31
I would say NO....he pitches deep into the game and all those CG;s in TOR will come back and hurt him in the next few years.
I would love for him to but I dont think that will happen