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  • ZetaPsi808
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 09-18-08
    • 12119

    #1
    Adrian Gonzalez a better player than Mark Teixeira
    both are stellar defensive players. mark will have a slight edge there, 4 gold gloves to gonzo's 2.

    but gonzalez is an offensive savant. he put impressive numbers playing for the padres in the biggest pitcher park in the majors. he also had no protection in the lineup.

    i know the red sox courted teixeira hard when he was a free agent and they were pissed the yankees signed him.

    i love watching gonzo hit fly balls that bounce off the green monster for doubles. such a beautiful thing. those balls would be fly ball outs in petco park. i say he wins 2011 al mvp
  • oiler
    SBR Hall of Famer
    • 06-06-09
    • 6585

    #2
    i wouldnt say that but gonzo does have more raw power than texiera
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    • InTheDrink
      SBR Posting Legend
      • 11-23-09
      • 23983

      #3
      Who cares? The red sox blow. They scored plenty of runs last year and did nothing to improve their pitching this year. The Crawford signing was only outdone by the Cameron signing the year before. Theo is god awful.
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      • Ace_of_Spades
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        • 10-14-09
        • 13518

        #4
        I agree 100%.
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        • St8Ca$homie
          Restricted User
          • 04-07-11
          • 161

          #5
          I agree 110%
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          • MoneylineExpress
            SBR MVP
            • 04-18-11
            • 1439

            #6
            Both are solid. Adrian has a bit more power and can hit it out to all fields consistently.
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            • InTheDrink
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              • 11-23-09
              • 23983

              #7
              Originally posted by St8Ca$homie
              I agree 110%
              Lol nice avatar

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              • warriorfan707
                SBR Posting Legend
                • 03-29-08
                • 13698

                #8
                If hes such a savant where is his bat this year
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                • ZetaPsi808
                  SBR Posting Legend
                  • 09-18-08
                  • 12119

                  #9
                  Originally posted by warriorfan707
                  If hes such a savant where is his bat this year
                  as a giant fan u should know how much of a beast gonzo is. he played in ur division many years.

                  based on the short season so far, hes projected to get 217 hits, 34 hr, 132 rbi.

                  yeah, mvp caliber
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                  • warriorfan707
                    SBR Posting Legend
                    • 03-29-08
                    • 13698

                    #10
                    He was a thorn in our side for many years. Was thrilled as any other to see him leave the NL West.

                    But I think you might be going a bit too far here. I wouldnt be the least bit surprised if he didnt hit .265 this year
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                    • Going4Broke
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                      • 09-30-10
                      • 294

                      #11
                      Originally posted by ZetaPsi808
                      based on the short season so far, hes projected to get 217 hits, 34 hr, 132 rbi.

                      yeah, mvp caliber
                      yeah... that looks pretty damn good to me. i like both but i like gonzo more for what he does and where he played. hell of a bat
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                      • ZetaPsi808
                        SBR Posting Legend
                        • 09-18-08
                        • 12119

                        #12
                        hes playing in one of the best hitters parks in the majors in fenway park. his opposite field swing is tailor made for the green monster. now he's got youkilis batting behind him for protection.

                        those factors will be huge this year
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                        • tatddy
                          SBR Posting Legend
                          • 03-02-10
                          • 10779

                          #13
                          Adrian Gonzalez has been a better player than Teixeira for a long time on both sides of the game. People realizing that now only a result of what happens when you play in San Diego.
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                          • Grits n' Gravy
                            Restricted User
                            • 06-10-10
                            • 13024

                            #14
                            Plus Texeria looks like Butthead.
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                            • Qtip
                              SBR Sharp
                              • 02-18-11
                              • 367

                              #15
                              Originally posted by ZetaPsi808
                              both are stellar defensive players. mark will have a slight edge there, 4 gold gloves to gonzo's 2.

                              but gonzalez is an offensive savant. he put impressive numbers playing for the padres in the biggest pitcher park in the majors. he also had no protection in the lineup.

                              i know the red sox courted teixeira hard when he was a free agent and they were pissed the yankees signed him.

                              i love watching gonzo hit fly balls that bounce off the green monster for doubles. such a beautiful thing. those balls would be fly ball outs in petco park. i say he wins 2011 al mvp
                              Adrian is the better defensive player, it's really not even close.
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                              • gryfyn1
                                SBR MVP
                                • 03-30-10
                                • 3285

                                #16
                                Originally posted by warriorfan707
                                If hes such a savant where is his bat this year
                                are you retarded? have you even looked at his stats? do you realize he ranks near the top of most offensive categories?
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                                • Boner_18
                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                  • 08-24-08
                                  • 8301

                                  #17
                                  Yeah it's true. Agree with the defense, agree with the offense. Time will tell the ultimate outcome but they are both top 10 all around 1st basemen in the league. Perhaps top 3.
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                                  • Boner_18
                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                    • 08-24-08
                                    • 8301

                                    #18
                                    Actually, comparing career stats, Texiera still has him beat offensively in nearly every category. That said Gonzo is on pace to have a career year.
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                                    • pacocn
                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                      • 07-05-10
                                      • 12934

                                      #19
                                      let me guess Warriors fan likes thong wearing
                                      Aubrey Huff over both of them
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                                      • ahayes
                                        SBR Sharp
                                        • 10-10-10
                                        • 391

                                        #20
                                        texiera is better than whole redsox team
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                                        • Wiggums5
                                          SBR MVP
                                          • 12-05-10
                                          • 2409

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by ahayes
                                          texiera is better than whole redsox team
                                          a very credible source here boys, guy can't even spell his name right
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                                          • RubberKettle
                                            SBR Hall of Famer
                                            • 12-28-09
                                            • 6421

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by ahayes
                                            texiera is better than whole redsox team
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                                            • Br0nxer
                                              SBR Posting Legend
                                              • 03-25-11
                                              • 13665

                                              #23
                                              of course he is

                                              tex contract is going to come back to haunt the yanks

                                              offensive skills already deteriorating
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                                              • stevenash
                                                Moderator
                                                • 01-17-11
                                                • 65582

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by ZetaPsi808
                                                both are stellar defensive players. mark will have a slight edge there, 4 gold gloves to gonzo's 2.

                                                but gonzalez is an offensive savant. he put impressive numbers playing for the padres in the biggest pitcher park in the majors. he also had no protection in the lineup.

                                                i know the red sox courted teixeira hard when he was a free agent and they were pissed the yankees signed him.

                                                i love watching gonzo hit fly balls that bounce off the green monster for doubles. such a beautiful thing. those balls would be fly ball outs in petco park. i say he wins 2011 al mvp

                                                I love both players, but a prorated average 162 game season for Texieria is 37-120 .285
                                                Those are scary numbers, those are Hall of Fame numbers.
                                                Not to mention Tex has an on base pct of .377 (far above the norm)

                                                Gonzalez's prorated numbers for an average 162 game season are close, even if you factor in the SD factor, but still 1/2 notch below Tex.

                                                Gonzo's numbers are 32-101-.286 on base pct of .369

                                                Close, but not quite.

                                                To argue who's the better first baseman defensivly is like arguing who's better, Keith Hernandez or Don Mattingly?
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                                                • Dirty Sanchez
                                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                                  • 03-01-10
                                                  • 16031

                                                  #25
                                                  When you look at the stats...in many of the categories Gonzalez isn't even close.

                                                  HR's Tex 284 to Gonzo 176 (1 year advantage for Tex)
                                                  RBI Tex 927 to Gonzo 556
                                                  2B Tex 310 to Gonzo 199
                                                  Hits Tex 1353 to Gonzo 951

                                                  Gonzo is a solid player....but in all categories he's a step down from Tex. Better on both sides? That's fan blindness...not reality
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                                                  • Andy117
                                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                                    • 02-07-10
                                                    • 9511

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by Dirty Sanchez
                                                    When you look at the stats...in many of the categories Gonzalez isn't even close.

                                                    HR's Tex 284 to Gonzo 176 (1 year advantage for Tex)
                                                    RBI Tex 927 to Gonzo 556
                                                    2B Tex 310 to Gonzo 199
                                                    Hits Tex 1353 to Gonzo 951

                                                    Gonzo is a solid player....but in all categories he's a step down from Tex. Better on both sides? That's fan blindness...not reality
                                                    Compare ABs not years. They have similar stats overall but you should remember that Tex has played in hitters parks and good lineups his whole career while until this season Gonzo has played in just about the worst hitters park in baseball and in an anemic lineup as well.
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                                                    • jetsjets1028
                                                      SBR MVP
                                                      • 02-10-10
                                                      • 1234

                                                      #27
                                                      thats a big understatement. adrian is the man
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                                                      • illfuuptn
                                                        SBR MVP
                                                        • 03-17-10
                                                        • 1860

                                                        #28
                                                        Both are wayyyyy overrated on defense but Tex is slightly better there. In EVERY other category(except speed obv.) Gonzalez is a better player. Not only that, but in terms of the future, I would not be surprised if Teixera hit .220 with 15hr in any given year in the next 3 years. On the other hand, I would be SHOCKED if Gonzalez hit less than .290 and/or less than 20 hr in any of the next 5 seasons.
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                                                        • Footballtime
                                                          SBR MVP
                                                          • 01-20-10
                                                          • 3229

                                                          #29
                                                          This isnt even worth debating....................The Yanks would of loved to have Adrian over Tex.......Case closed!
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                                                          • 8ArIvd5
                                                            SBR MVP
                                                            • 04-24-10
                                                            • 3175

                                                            #30
                                                            probably have more gold gloves if he didn't play in the same league as pujols all those years.
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                                                            • EmpireMaker
                                                              SBR Posting Legend
                                                              • 06-18-09
                                                              • 15580

                                                              #31
                                                              Tex has been the better player in the past but it seems to be that Gonzo is becoming the better player now
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                                                              • Grind House
                                                                SBR MVP
                                                                • 01-01-10
                                                                • 1405

                                                                #32
                                                                They're bout the same player except Tex is a better fielder. That's why I'll take him over the other fella.
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                                                                • SASH
                                                                  SBR MVP
                                                                  • 04-09-11
                                                                  • 3200

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Tex is much better, not even close. DUMP
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                                                                  • stevenash
                                                                    Moderator
                                                                    • 01-17-11
                                                                    • 65582

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by illfuuptn
                                                                    Both are wayyyyy overrated on defense but Tex is slightly better there. In EVERY other category(except speed obv.) Gonzalez is a better player.
                                                                    I watch 130 + NYY games a year, Tex makes Keith Hernandez plays on a weekly basis.

                                                                    In every other category Gonzo is better?
                                                                    On what planet?

                                                                    Tex
                                                                    Check out the latest Stats, Height, Weight, Position, Rookie Status & More of Mark Teixeira. Get info about his position, age, height, weight, draft status, bats, throws, school and more on Baseball-reference.com


                                                                    Gonzo (sure hits into a ton of DP's, led the league there. )
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                                                                    • jstblaze
                                                                      SBR Wise Guy
                                                                      • 03-05-07
                                                                      • 767

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Being a die hard yanks fan, I would still say it is a close argument for current play. But there is still alot of ball to be played this year.

                                                                      But career so far I really dont see it.
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