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  • Extra Innings
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 02-26-10
    • 15058

    #1
    Are you better off than you were (4) years ago?
    This is the "good" graph. April is turning into a disaster. Hope and Change (inflationary change). I think we should spend more on windmills in Nevada and solar panels in Alaska. If only Bush was president, we could have blamed this all on his self-interest with Enron Interesting how we no longer here about that Arizona Rep who was gunned down by that wacky right winger who had no interest in politics.

    We've only just begun.



  • ByeShea
    SBR Hall of Famer
    • 06-30-08
    • 8104

    #2
    This president is a serious douchebag.
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    • Carseller4
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      • 10-22-09
      • 19627

      #3
      Can't blame this on Obama....that would be racist.
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      • jnickell100
        SBR MVP
        • 11-11-09
        • 4305

        #4
        It took Bush 8 years to get us into this mess and you expect ANYONE to get it better in 2 years? Get real
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        • Deuce
          BARRELED IN @ SBR!
          • 01-12-08
          • 29843

          #5
          Originally posted by jnickell100
          It took Bush 8 years to get us into this mess and you expect ANYONE to get it better in 2 years? Get real
          Get a clue.
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          • muldoon
            SBR MVP
            • 01-04-10
            • 4397

            #6
            Originally posted by Carseller4
            Can't blame this on Obama....that would be racist.
            If only Obama would manage the debt better
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            • Extra Innings
              SBR Posting Legend
              • 02-26-10
              • 15058

              #7
              Originally posted by jnickell100
              It took Bush 8 years to get us into this mess and you expect ANYONE to get it better in 2 years? Get real
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              • pacers101
                SBR Wise Guy
                • 03-07-11
                • 603

                #8
                Originally posted by jnickell100
                It took Bush 8 years to get us into this mess and you expect ANYONE to get it better in 2 years? Get real
                last 2 years of bush(which is when the economy tanked) the dems controlled congress.
                if bush=lang then obama=quinn
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                • cant call it
                  SBR Hall of Famer
                  • 08-29-10
                  • 8817

                  #9
                  Originally posted by jnickell100
                  It took Bush 8 years to get us into this mess and you expect ANYONE to get it better in 2 years? Get real
                  Actually it took almost 100 years for all this to get as bad as it did. If you research from 1913 to present, you will see the slow erosion that takes place on the value of the american dollar. Not only do goods cost more (transportation=fuel) but the dollar is worth less each year, and that helps none my friend.
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                  • Smoke
                    SBR Aristocracy
                    • 10-09-09
                    • 48111

                    #10
                    Fukk the government period....

                    Doesn't matter who is in office...

                    The president is a puppet..

                    There are many levels of security clearances above the president
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                    • Extra Innings
                      SBR Posting Legend
                      • 02-26-10
                      • 15058

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Smoke
                      Fukk the government period....

                      Doesn't matter who is in office...

                      The president is a puppet..

                      There are many levels of security clearances above the president
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                      • jjgold
                        SBR Aristocracy
                        • 07-20-05
                        • 388179

                        #12
                        WAy worse

                        Gambling
                        Food
                        Bad investments
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                        • No coincidences
                          SBR Aristocracy
                          • 01-18-10
                          • 76300

                          #13
                          Anyone who blames any President for this shit is probably the same people who blame the QB for a win or a loss.

                          It goes a hell of a lot deeper than that. Obama's nothing more than a puppet, just like dummy Bush and Ronny the empty suit.
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                          • King Mayan
                            SBR Posting Legend
                            • 09-22-10
                            • 21326

                            #14
                            Originally posted by jnickell100
                            It took Bush 8 years to get us into this mess and you expect ANYONE to get it better in 2 years? Get real
                            Muthafukkas expect a depression to get fixed over night....
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                            • Cougar Bait
                              SBR Posting Legend
                              • 10-04-07
                              • 18282

                              #15
                              To actually answer the question, yes. I am way better of than I was 4 years ago.

                              It's not even remotely close.

                              Do I think this president has done a good job? Hardly. But he'll probably get re-elected.

                              You know the drill by now. 8 years this guy, 8 years that guy, etc etc
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                              • zam77
                                SBR MVP
                                • 11-03-10
                                • 3586

                                #16
                                I am better off than I was 4 years ago... it has nothing to do with the president or politics or how anyone or anything else has effectd me for that matter. If the economy had been doing better, the housing market didn't tank, wars were resolved, politics and politicians all weren't so fukin pathedic and our government had any interest in my well being whatsoever, then maybe I would be doing even better than I currently am.

                                Bottom line is I don't listen to pesimists who are constantly bitching, questioning, overanalyzing... There is still money to be made and opportunities to be had, no matter what your situation is now versus 4 years ago.
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                                • cant call it
                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                  • 08-29-10
                                  • 8817

                                  #17
                                  Same families who have been running nations for CENTURIES
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                                  • Turd Ferguson
                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                    • 08-26-10
                                    • 7260

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by jnickell100
                                    It took Bush 8 years to get us into this mess and you expect ANYONE to get it better in 2 years? Get real
                                    It's not going to get better under Obama or anyone else. To say it's Bush's fault is true, but only partially. Also to blame are Reagan, Bush sr, Clinton, and yes, Obama for drinking the "free trade" kool aid and signing unbalanced trade deals for 30 years. Asia has become an economic powerhouse because of our "free trade" deals. In the 60's South Korea was as poor as any country in Africa and Samsung was exporting fish. Using what gets demonized as "protectionism" over here, they have done in 50 years what it took us 100.

                                    But the good news is that McDonalds is on a hiring blitz.
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                                    • wtf
                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                      • 08-22-08
                                      • 12983

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by Turd Ferguson
                                      It's not going to get better under Obama or anyone else. To say it's Bush's fault is true, but only partially. Also to blame are Reagan, Bush sr, Clinton, and yes, Obama for drinking the "free trade" kool aid and signing unbalanced trade deals for 30 years. Asia has become an economic powerhouse because of our "free trade" deals. In the 60's South Korea was as poor as any country in Africa and Samsung was exporting fish. Using what gets demonized as "protectionism" over here, they have done in 50 years what it took us 100. But the good news is that McDonalds is on a hiring blitz.
                                      good post

                                      additionally to this is the transfer of knowledge from the west to the east, IN A DESPERATE move to reduce costs manufacturing moved to asia, where they just swiped all the know how and crushed western companies with their own fukin products

                                      and of course dumb western PC liberal politicians allow the dumping of products on western shores , with ZERO RECIPROCITY

                                      i truly believe if trump can win he actually might do something about this, you cannot allow politicians to be presidents any longer
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                                      • muldoon
                                        SBR MVP
                                        • 01-04-10
                                        • 4397

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by wtf
                                        i truly believe if trump can win he actually might do something about this, you cannot allow politicians to be presidents any longer
                                        If you have even the most basic understanding of how government, trade agreements, foreign relations etc, then you'd realize what what Trump claims he can do is at worst impossible, and at best, unmanageable.

                                        Yeah, let's just walk into Libya and take their oil. We're on good terms with a sizeable % of Iraqi's and we can't even drive our trucks across country with any sort of acceptable delivery rate. Let's go into a country where 99.999% of the country will hate is for walking in and taking their natural resource.
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                                        • wtf
                                          SBR Posting Legend
                                          • 08-22-08
                                          • 12983

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by muldoon
                                          If you have even the most basic understanding of how government, trade agreements, foreign relations etc, then you'd realize what what Trump claims he can do is at worst impossible, and at best, unmanageable. Yeah, let's just walk into Libya and take their oil. We're on good terms with a sizeable % of Iraqi's and we can't even drive our trucks across country with any sort of acceptable delivery rate. Let's go into a country where 99.999% of the country will hate is for walking in and taking their natural resource.
                                          was not talking about oil, and that is only a microcosm of what trump is talking about

                                          his position on oil is very clear, allow drilling in the usa- it is virtually impossible now

                                          well since i live in asia and know EXACTLY how and what it takes to import i feel i probably know more than you on this issue and can tell you that is not reciprocal by any stretch of the imagination, and if you knew how restricted imports were in places like china and korea you would understand why trump is taking this stance and rightfully so
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                                          • muldoon
                                            SBR MVP
                                            • 01-04-10
                                            • 4397

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by wtf
                                            well since i live in asia and know EXACTLY how and what it takes to import i feel i probably know more than you on this issue and can tell you that is not reciprocal by any stretch of the imagination, and if you knew how restricted imports were in places like china and korea you would understand why trump is taking this stance and rightfully so
                                            Considering the hundreds of thousands of troops that would be required, I don't think it's a small thing (microcosm) by any means. With that being said, you live in Asia!

                                            Wow. And because one of my business interests imports goods (some from asia) does that allow me to chime in?

                                            For decades there has been an imbalance. From trying to sell cars in Japan, to trying to deal with countries that subsidize everything from wheat to lumber.

                                            It's not nearly as simple as "Tell them if we can't sell, they can't sell". Read up on previous trade wars and see who actually paid the consequences.

                                            But hey, you're in Asia.
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                                            • Maniac
                                              SBR Wise Guy
                                              • 04-12-11
                                              • 667

                                              #23
                                              Right now I am better off in terms of no longer having any immediate debts/Overdraft/CC etc compared to the £10k which I owed 4 years ago, also my home mortgage payments are currently 2/3 what they were back then (thanks to the recession and a variable rate) yet the house is valued higher than I paid for it.

                                              Having said that, I do now have a substantial 2nd mortgage for a commercial property having recently gone into business with my father.

                                              In an overall sense, compared to 4 years ago, I am currently better off in terms of short-term cash/assets, but at the same time I owe a lot more in long term debt (home + business mortgage).

                                              Whether that actually means I am better off than I was or not I am not really sure, but it sure feels like I am better off !
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                                              • frankzig
                                                SBR MVP
                                                • 10-26-09
                                                • 2268

                                                #24
                                                No But I think it goes back to Bush
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                                                • itchypickle
                                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                                  • 11-05-09
                                                  • 21452

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by jnickell100
                                                  It took Bush 8 years to get us into this mess and you expect ANYONE to get it better in 2 years? Get real

                                                  Original thought of the year goes to......JNickell
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                                                  • flyingillini
                                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                                    • 12-06-06
                                                    • 41219

                                                    #26
                                                    My life has changed dramatically in the last 4 years....It all depends how someone would look at it to see if I am better off or not. Financially things have been a dream come true but I can honestly say I am a wreck 24 hours a day. I have taken on much more than I can handle and there is no looking back. I have so much going on and I keep getting involved in more projects and there is only 24 hours in a day.
                                                    המוסד‎
                                                    המוסד למודיעין ולתפקידים מיוחדים‎
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                                                    • mr.inpak
                                                      SBR Sharp
                                                      • 12-13-09
                                                      • 449

                                                      #27
                                                      alot worse for me I worked at atlantic city casino for 26 years making 10.27 an hour plus tips which was eventually $25 an hour new company came in offered me $4.30 an hour plus tips which comes to $18 an hour I started in 1984 at $4.75 an hour plus tips said no thanks I made more in 1986 then now if I took the job thats why I am on unemployment
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                                                      • jnickell100
                                                        SBR MVP
                                                        • 11-11-09
                                                        • 4305

                                                        #28
                                                        And yes i am much much better off that i was 4 years ago. I now have a great paying job with company truck, gas, phone and everything else that i need. Like Cougar said.. Do i think Obama is doing a good job? No... But still think he is a much more attractive candidate that McCain ever would be. Lets face it, until we get out of Iraq/Afghanistan we will never be back to normal.
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                                                        • seasonoff
                                                          Restricted User
                                                          • 04-22-11
                                                          • 26

                                                          #29
                                                          badddd

                                                          worse then ever. no job! ecom is trash. no damn jobs and gas is higher!
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                                                          • muldoon
                                                            SBR MVP
                                                            • 01-04-10
                                                            • 4397

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by seasonoff
                                                            worse then ever. no job! ecom is trash. no damn jobs and gas is higher!
                                                            Can't be for lack of education.
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                                                            • onlooker
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                                                              • 08-10-05
                                                              • 36572

                                                              #31
                                                              I'm better off.
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                                                              • sweethook
                                                                SBR Posting Legend
                                                                • 11-21-07
                                                                • 12667

                                                                #32
                                                                the bush family sure is ... he as to be the worse president in the history of the usa $ wise , and lb johnson is next. dam he hated the white man
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                                                                • falconticket
                                                                  SBR MVP
                                                                  • 09-05-10
                                                                  • 3414

                                                                  #33
                                                                  things should settle down now that our future king has chosen his bride.
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                                                                  • Living The Dream
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                                                                    • 12-23-09
                                                                    • 4521

                                                                    #34
                                                                    I am better now than I was 4 years ago but think we all will go through another rough patch here real soon
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                                                                    • Andy117
                                                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                      • 02-07-10
                                                                      • 9511

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Both my wife and I make a lot more than we did 4 years ago, so I'd say I'm better off.
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