Whats the more impressive feat? (baseball related)

[MadCapper]

Throwing 12 perfect innings (Harvey Haddix)

or

Throwing back to back no-no's (Johnny Vandemeer)

[Quebb Diesel]

12 perfect innings IMO

[ChuteBoxe]

IMHO, back to back no-no's.

[Richkas]

Throwing 12 perfect innings (Harvey Haddix)

or

Throwing back to back no-no's (Johnny Vandemeer)

Back to back no no's

[pico]

how impressive is it to pitch a no hitter on LSD?

[ChuteBoxe]

how impressive is it to pitch a no hitter on LSD?

[MonkeyF0cker]

Thats a tough one. I think it would have to be 12 perfect...

[Quebb Diesel]

finally somebody else is joining the club...to be perfect for a good 4 hours through fatigue with probably a crazy pitch count...at least a back to back no no has a chance of resting in between games...

[MadCapper]

I agree. perfect thru 12 is the more impressive feat.

the difference between a perfect game and a no hitter is significant.

[madmaxx]

back to back...if a team is awful and cant get on base through 9, they cant score in 12 anyways. Not allowing a hit on different nights is quite a feat.

[onlooker]

Perfect through 12.

[pico]

how is this not impressive? i like to any one of you make a NBA 3 pter on LSD.

[JRS21386]

Definately back to back no no's

[pat venditto]

back to back no no's

[Kellen]

I gotta say back to back no-no's. With the 12 innings, you're still in the zone. Hard to stay in the zone after a break.

[Wheell]

By my back of the envelope calculations 12 perfect innings will occur about 418 times in a billion chances. Back to back no hitters will occur 65 times in a billion chances. The perfect innings math is a bit cleaner since no hitters can involves "errors" that would otherwise be scored as hits, as well as random double plays that occur more often due to the pitcher being unwilling to give in and put more guys on base via walks. However, no matter how I look at it back to back no hitters is simply less likely. I might add that there are fewer opportunities since only a starter can throw a no hitter whereas any pitcher can retire 36 straight batters.