5 years before he can be on the ballot I believe, then how many years does it take? Does he get the McGwire/Sosa treatment?
Over/Under how long it takes Manny to get in the Hall of Fame?
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LarrysKidSBR Sharp
- 03-17-10
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#1Over/Under how long it takes Manny to get in the Hall of Fame?Tags: None -
daimoshokageSBR Hall of Famer
- 02-07-11
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#2Never..Comment -
Br0nxerSBR Posting Legend
- 03-25-11
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#3um try never for -1000Comment -
BGboothASBR MVP
- 08-07-08
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#4And when would this payOriginally posted by Br0nxerum try never for -1000
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LarrysKidSBR Sharp
- 03-17-10
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#5Does his involvement with the Red Sox finally winning a World Series again help his case? I would think it will be in the minds of the voters since that was such a huge event in baseball history. As far as I know he only has tested positive for PED's in recent years, and since there isn't an established history of use before recently in his career (maybe because they didn't test before) I'm not sure if this situation is really going to completely prevent him from getting in. It's not the same as Sosa/McGwire/Bonds where they got older and got huge (he did get fatter) and all of sudden they were belting 50-70 hr's and its obvious to everyone what was going on. I'm just not sure if he will be held to the same standard they are being held to. Isn't he one of only five players ever with 500+hr's and a career .300+ avg, not sure of that I need to check that. But I think most fans and probably most HOF voters are purists and that will obviously work against him.Comment -
Marigold HDSBR Hall of Famer
- 09-03-07
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#615 years at best if anything. Nothing sooner.Comment -
QtipSBR Sharp
- 02-18-11
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#7After he dies.Comment -
Lazy-ManSBR MVP
- 12-20-10
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#8Manny is without question a hall of famer. You guys sound stupid for thinking elsewiseComment -
SnowballBARRELED IN @ SBR!
- 11-15-09
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#9I am very dissapointed and saddened by the way it ended for Manny.
He was STUPID.
I don't think he will make the Hall now.Comment -
stevenashModerator
- 01-17-11
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#10He's not getting to the Hall.Originally posted by Lazy-ManManny is without question a hall of famer. You guys sound stupid for thinking elsewise
This is what the voters think of 'roiders
Jeff Bagwell: 41.7%
Mark McGwire: 19.8%
Rafael Palmeiro: 11.0%
Juan Gonzalez: 5.2%
Kevin Brown: 2.1%
Next years numbers for the new 'roid list will be the same.
McGwire's usage history is well-known, and despite coming clean about his steroid use last January, his support dropped a few percentage points from last year. Palmeiro insists he never used despite failing a test and getting suspended, and he received little support despite a long and impressive career that saw him exceed 3000 hits and 500 homers. Brown, who has long been suspected of using, earned precious little support despite very strong numbers. Gonzalez is in a similar boat as Brown. And in the most polarizing case, Bagwell was hurt by voter suspicion despite zero links to usage, and despite career statistics that match him up with names like Rod Carew and Joe DiMaggio.
There is no question that a player with Jeff Bagwell's statistics belongs in the Hall of Fame, but as evidenced by his results, and by the results for others, many of the BBWAA voters want little to do with players who even just may have used PEDs at some point in their careers. Whether right or wrong, that appears to be the committee's current collective position.
Peter Gammons who loved the guy when he was with the Sox, has a vote, but won't vote him in.
You think guys like Maury Allen of The New York Times and the rest will vote for him?
Not bloody likely.
Not only that, the people who the voters cover, have influence.
Like Bob Melvin for instance.
He wants to literally kill Manny, Melvin has clout, he talks to the voters often.
There is no way, no how, Manny gets inComment -
birdmanweezySBR MVP- 04-18-10
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#11i dont think he will ever get in...he deserves it by roids is a big no no even though 85% of players use themComment -
sweethookSBR Posting Legend
- 11-21-07
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#12there is no hof , if peter rose aint in it then there is no fukin hof..... 100%Comment -
keenecharger21SBR Sharp- 02-21-11
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#13Never lol slamming manny ftwComment -
mikepep21SBR Hustler
- 01-21-11
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#14He won't get in especially if mcguire didn'tComment -
shinnmanSBR Sharp- 02-25-11
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#15Originally posted by Lazy-ManManny is without question a hall of famer. You guys sound stupid for thinking elsewise
the guy was a bum, cheated at least twice which will keep him out of the hall, not to mention the dozen or so fake injuries he had when he just wanted to take some time off. lets not forget how he screwed boston and would not even take the bat off his shoulders, forcing a trade.he couldnt play the field and was a joke on the bases, MANNY BEING MANNY GOT OLD A LONG TIME AGO, GOOD RIDDINS TO THE BUMComment -
stevenashModerator
- 01-17-11
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#16Manny is the type of guy that probably laughed when he heard the Surgeon General say smoking is not good for you saying, "what the hell does he know"?, as he lit up a Marlboro.
He took the roids thinking, "wtf, if I don't get caught, I'll collect few more of these 2 mil, one year deals, if I get caught, screw it, I'll take my mitt and go home and quit"
Big, fat, sleazy dirtbag.Comment -
Doc JSSBR Hall of Famer
- 09-15-06
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#17FOREVER is a long time...
Not getting in in the first 15 years...
The veterans committee MAY revisit this many years in the future.
For now, the answer is "no time soon" to "forever"...
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CrayzeeSBR MVP
- 10-27-06
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#18never
him, mcguire, bonds, clemens etc- not happeningComment -
Rich BoySBR Hall of Famer- 02-01-09
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#19You think manny cares about the hall of fame? The guy is a millionaire and he will be partying for years.
He doesnt give a shit about MLB.Comment -
doublej95SBR Posting Legend
- 01-26-10
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#20he will not get into the Hall of Fame the writers never liked him and the roids sealed the deal.Comment -
phillipSBR Sharp
- 08-30-09
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#21He wont get in.Comment -
HoulihansTXBARRELED IN @ SBR!
- 02-12-09
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#22You beat me to it...Originally posted by Rich BoyYou think manny cares about the hall of fame? The guy is a millionaire and he will be partying for years. He doesnt give a shit about MLB.
Manny milked the Majors for all it was worth. I'm sure he came from nothing(poverty), and is now set for life. I'm sure at one point he loved to play baseball, and was truly devoted to playing. Though it seems he reached a point in his life that he realized he wouldnt be as good as he was in his prime. Then decided that as long as the idiot General managers continue to pay him, he would accept the checks.Comment -
robmpinkSBR Posting Legend
- 01-09-07
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#23Originally posted by Lazy-ManManny is without question a hall of famer. You guys sound stupid for thinking elsewise
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sweethookSBR Posting Legend
- 11-21-07
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#24Originally posted by Lazy-ManManny is without question a hall of famer. You guys sound stupid for thinking elsewise
dam sure dont want him on my team
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hostile takeoverSBR MVP
- 12-06-09
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#25Never happen. Old white dudes vote on that stuff and he's an embarrassment to the "purity" of the game on so many levels.Comment -
stevenashModerator
- 01-17-11
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#26Watch Bonds get the 'silent' treatment also.
Word is he doesn't have enough support from the voters.Comment -
DMB40SBR MVP
- 04-04-09
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#27Manny won't get inComment -
LT ProfitsSBR Aristocracy
- 10-27-06
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#28He will NEVER get in now after failing a second drug test.Originally posted by Lazy-ManManny is without question a hall of famer. You guys sound stupid for thinking elsewiseComment -
MilanboySBR High Roller
- 11-09-10
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#29He's not getting in. Not with getting caught twice.Comment -
rymille83Restricted User
- 01-14-11
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#30neverComment -
ClayMaker5252Restricted User
- 03-02-11
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#31it wont take long any moreComment -
jjgoldSBR Aristocracy
- 07-20-05
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#32Never
McGuire, Bons, Sosa, Clemens, Manny will never ever get closeComment -
marcolocoSBR MVP
- 07-05-10
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#33my vote is for neverComment -
Dirty SanchezSBR Posting Legend
- 03-01-10
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#34The Hall won't induct him...and the old geezers committee won't do it either. The tell tale sign will be when Bonds and Clemens enter the zone and get clubbed like baby seals. Guys like McGuire and Palmero have already gotten the message, and others will soon get the same.Comment -
ReloadSBR Posting Legend
- 03-23-08
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#35I'd say he's hosed.
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