True Or False: Is Their Juice If You Pick Winners??

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  • jjgold
    SBR Aristocracy
    • 07-20-05
    • 388179

    #1
    True Or False: Is Their Juice If You Pick Winners??
    If I can pick a high percentage of winners juice really does not come into play.

    I do not give a fuk if Yanks are -280 tonight if I know they will cover.
  • ApricotSinner32
    Restricted User
    • 11-28-10
    • 10648

    #2
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    • doublej95
      SBR Posting Legend
      • 01-26-10
      • 14094

      #3
      True
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      • OmgUrMom
        Restricted User
        • 02-07-10
        • 8481

        #4
        Yanks good play 2nite, Twins could not beat them if their half hanged sausage depended on it.

        So i guess the answer is false
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        • VegasInsider
          SBR Posting Legend
          • 12-12-10
          • 14593

          #5
          False (unless you plan on picking 100%)

          Would you rather win $5,000 or $5,050?

          Always get the lowest numbers.
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          • KingKolzig
            SBR Hall of Famer
            • 02-02-10
            • 5550

            #6
            Originally posted by jjgold
            If I can pick a high percentage of winners juice really does not come into play.

            I do not give a fuk if Yanks are -280 tonight if I know they will cover.

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            • dfberger23
              SBR Hall of Famer
              • 11-08-10
              • 5069

              #7
              Coach let these guys know how it is done.

              Yanks are up 4-0.
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              • Rod1010
                SBR Hall of Famer
                • 09-01-10
                • 6208

                #8
                Guys do not listen to this clown.


                Hes doing his job trying to bury the squares in PT
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                • LT Profits
                  SBR Aristocracy
                  • 10-27-06
                  • 90963

                  #9
                  False.

                  One of the biggest misconceptions in sports is that you do not pay any vig with winning money line favorites. The fact is everybody pays a vig. The vig is the difference between the odds you bet and the no-vig line.
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                  • LT Profits
                    SBR Aristocracy
                    • 10-27-06
                    • 90963

                    #10
                    Actually, the way the thread title is worded, the answer is TRUE, meaning that their IS juice even if you pick winners.
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                    • CarpeDime
                      SBR Hall of Famer
                      • 09-01-09
                      • 7873

                      #11
                      True Or False: Is Their Juice If You Pick Winners?? FALSE

                      if you pick winners THEIRS NO JUICE

                      if you bet the yankees to win 100 and they win, YOU WIN 100 - -140, -280, YOU WIN 100

                      stop bitching about juice and PICK FUKIN WINNERS AND YOU WILL BE FINE
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                      • Doc JS
                        SBR Hall of Famer
                        • 09-15-06
                        • 6885

                        #12
                        Originally posted by jjgold
                        True Or False: Is Their Juice If You Pick Winners??
                        Their
                        There
                        They're

                        C'mon JJ...set a better example!

                        Doc
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                        • LT Profits
                          SBR Aristocracy
                          • 10-27-06
                          • 90963

                          #13
                          Originally posted by CarpeDime
                          True Or False: Is Their Juice If You Pick Winners?? FALSE

                          if you pick winners THEIRS NO JUICE

                          if you bet the yankees to win 100 and they win, YOU WIN 100 - -140, -280, YOU WIN 100

                          stop bitching about juice and PICK FUKIN WINNERS AND YOU WILL BE FINE
                          WRONG! Think about it.
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                          • Roxxyfish
                            SBR Posting Legend
                            • 06-26-09
                            • 12066

                            #14
                            -2.5 was the play buddy. see yall tomorrow , have to catch my plane

                            PS JJ a winner is a winner fukk the odds
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                            • doublej95
                              SBR Posting Legend
                              • 01-26-10
                              • 14094

                              #15
                              Originally posted by jjgold
                              If I can pick a high percentage of winners juice really does not come into play.

                              I do not give a fuk if Yanks are -280 tonight if I know they will cover.
                              That is the true statement
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                              • LT Profits
                                SBR Aristocracy
                                • 10-27-06
                                • 90963

                                #16
                                Originally posted by doublej95
                                That is the true statement
                                No it is not.

                                Am I going to have to explain it?

                                EVERYBODY pays juice, end of story.
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                                • BettingWizard
                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                  • 11-28-09
                                  • 6522

                                  #17
                                  yeah juice doesn't matter if you have tomorrow's newspaper

                                  let me know when that happens
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                                  • doublej95
                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                    • 01-26-10
                                    • 14094

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by LT Profits

                                    No it is not.

                                    Am I going to have to explain it?

                                    EVERYBODY pays juice, end of story.
                                    Read his sentence it says nothing about paying juice, it's about if I can hit a high percentage the juice will not hurt win I lose.
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                                    • LT Profits
                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                      • 10-27-06
                                      • 90963

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by BettingWizard
                                      yeah juice doesn't matter if you have tomorrow's newspaper

                                      let me know when that happens
                                      Even if you pick 100% winners, you are still paying juice.
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                                      • LT Profits
                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                        • 10-27-06
                                        • 90963

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by doublej95
                                        Read his sentence it says nothing about paying juice, it's about if I can hit a high percentage the juice will not hurt win I lose.
                                        You highlighted "juice will not come into play". Juice always comes into play.
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                                        • doublej95
                                          SBR Posting Legend
                                          • 01-26-10
                                          • 14094

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by LT Profits

                                          Even if you pick 100% winners, you are still paying juice.
                                          Yes you are laying juice till the bet is settled.
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                                          • BettingWizard
                                            SBR Hall of Famer
                                            • 11-28-09
                                            • 6522

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by LT Profits
                                            Even if you pick 100% winners, you are still paying juice.
                                            I know but "it doesnt matter" if you are psychic.
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                                            • LT Profits
                                              SBR Aristocracy
                                              • 10-27-06
                                              • 90963

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by doublej95
                                              Yes you are laying juice till the bet is settled.
                                              No, you are paying a vig no matter what.
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                                              • Smoke
                                                SBR Aristocracy
                                                • 10-09-09
                                                • 48111

                                                #24
                                                Yes ..

                                                If you bet $200 on a -200 line you only get 100 bucks if you win. If there was no juice you should win $200

                                                Although if you pick plus money all the time their is no juice
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                                                • OmgUrMom
                                                  Restricted User
                                                  • 02-07-10
                                                  • 8481

                                                  #25
                                                  ....
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                                                  • illfuuptn
                                                    SBR MVP
                                                    • 03-17-10
                                                    • 1860

                                                    #26
                                                    There is no answer because a question can not be true or false.
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                                                    • OmgUrMom
                                                      Restricted User
                                                      • 02-07-10
                                                      • 8481

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by Smoke
                                                      Yes ..

                                                      If you bet $200 on a -200 line you only get 100 bucks if you win. If there was no juice you should win $200

                                                      Although if you pick plus money all the time their is no juice
                                                      excellent level sir
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                                                      • LT Profits
                                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                                        • 10-27-06
                                                        • 90963

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by Smoke
                                                        Yes ..

                                                        If you bet $200 on a -200 line you only get 100 bucks if you win. If there was no juice you should win $200

                                                        Although if you pick plus money all the time their is no juice
                                                        Close.

                                                        If you are laying -200, the no-vig line is probably around -185.

                                                        So if you are risking $200, the no-vig winnings would be 200/1.85 = 108.11

                                                        So you are actually paying an implied vig of $8.11 by winning $100
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                                                        • tickingclock1
                                                          SBR High Roller
                                                          • 09-05-10
                                                          • 162

                                                          #29
                                                          There is always juice. That is a certainty
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                                                          • Optional
                                                            Administrator
                                                            • 06-10-10
                                                            • 61500

                                                            #30
                                                            At -280 the Yanks have to win 74% of the time for you to actually come out a winner with bets like that.

                                                            Good luck with that JJ.
                                                            .
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                                                            • alukk
                                                              SBR MVP
                                                              • 01-29-09
                                                              • 1544

                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by LT Profits
                                                              No, you are paying a vig no matter what.
                                                              You pay juice even if it is a dog.
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                                                              • Nicky Santoro
                                                                SBR Posting Legend
                                                                • 04-08-08
                                                                • 16103

                                                                #32
                                                                of course you pay vig whether you win or lose.. here's a very easy example.

                                                                You want to bet fav -200.. and you want to only lose 100..

                                                                If you win, you win 50$..

                                                                And if line is -220 and you still win, for the same 100 risk, you win ONLY 45$.. so basically, even though the fav still won, you cost yourself 5$.
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                                                                • LT Profits
                                                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                                                  • 10-27-06
                                                                  • 90963

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by alukk
                                                                  You pay juice even if it is a dog.
                                                                  Yes and it works the exact same way.

                                                                  Let's say the line is -200/+175 and you risk 100 to win 175. If you lose, you have the illusion of paying no vig, but in actuality, if the no vig line is 185, you should have been laying 175/1.85 = 94.59 to win that 175 for an implied vig of $5.41
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                                                                  • BGS 9.5
                                                                    SBR MVP
                                                                    • 01-10-08
                                                                    • 4628

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by CarpeDime
                                                                    True Or False: Is Their Juice If You Pick Winners?? FALSE

                                                                    if you pick winners THEIRS NO JUICE

                                                                    if you bet the yankees to win 100 and they win, YOU WIN 100 - -140, -280, YOU WIN 100

                                                                    stop bitching about juice and PICK FUKIN WINNERS AND YOU WILL BE FINE
                                                                    you tell em Pally!
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                                                                    • LT Profits
                                                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                                                      • 10-27-06
                                                                      • 90963

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by BGS 9.5
                                                                      you tell em Pally!
                                                                      Even if he is wrong
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