Eurobooks vs USbooks whos better Pro Contra

[Roxxyfish]

IMAO Eurobooks are way better,the odds are better,more type of bets,round Robin is not limited to a few games,the payouts are way faster, the CS support is better ,more efficient,freephone is standard ,less or no rollover on promotions,better pokersoftware,havei forgot something ??

[jjgold]

No comparison
Euro Books are unreal
Live Betting Kings
Software Kings
Bet Option Kings
Customer Service Kings
Security Kings
Payout Kings
Deposit Kings
Casino Kings

[nyplayer33]

europe books are great...betfair/pinnacle sbo bet...we have in usa 5 dimes..however they don't offer live betting....

[durito]

euro books only accept losing players

[Roxxyfish]

I playon 3 US Books, 5dimes BetJam DSI , but they allcantbeat Betfair WillHill Betsson or Ladbrokes

euro books only accept losing players

[Vegas_bond]

Yes, you forget something ... online gambling is not allowed in the US.

[jjgold]

Yes big reason why Vegas Bond, they have no restrictions.

[protein]

euro books only accept losing players

True, true, ture. MOst of them suck with their limiting policy.

[gregm]

While I agree European books like betfair are fantastic, one thing I have always was curious about is why, with all the betting options open to europeans, are there so few European gambling forums? Punters lounge, and a very few others, but none compare with SBR and all the american forums.

So many European cities even have casinos, I stayed near one in salzburg and so many locals could tell me nothing about it. There is betting going on in so many little corner shops in the uk and the eu, I always wondered why gambling was a marginal culture at best in europe.

I believe it has to do with the sports, America offers year round entertainment to wager on. In Europe, soccer and cricket, irl, etc, is so rarely played throughout the the week and the year, Europeans have less to gamble on in their own countries. Betting on horses and dogs is great but its rarely a moneymaker.

The British, various EU stock markets have a lot to do with how so many of these Gibraltar, UK, European sportsbooks are run I would imagine as well.

Look at the numbers of Americans who gamble at sports books, its incredible. Americans have so few good choices, I would love to see some really interesting exchanges and sports books out there competing for our dollar.

[Hareeba!]

While I agree European books like betfair are fantastic, one thing I have always was curious about is why, with all the betting options open to europeans, are there so few European gambling forums? Punters lounge, and a very few others, but none compare with SBR and all the american forums.

So many European cities even have casinos, I stayed near one in salzburg and so many locals could tell me nothing about it. There is betting going on in so many little corner shops in the uk and the eu, I always wondered why gambling was a marginal culture at best in europe.

I believe it has to do with the sports, America offers year round entertainment to wager on. In Europe, soccer and cricket, irl, etc, is so rarely played throughout the the week and the year, Europeans have less to gamble on in their own countries. Betting on horses and dogs is great but its rarely a moneymaker.

The British, various EU stock markets have a lot to do with how so many of these Gibraltar, UK, European sportsbooks are run I would imagine as well.

Look at the numbers of Americans who gamble at sports books, its incredible. Americans have so few good choices, I would love to see some really interesting exchanges and sports books out there competing for our dollar.

perhaps its because the Euro books are better regulated and don't have the history of scamming and stiffing which the Costa Rico books have so there is less need for an SBR to serve the players ?

Euro's have plenty to bet on during the week .. there is racing and soccer every day and cricket certainly isn't limited to weekends

[vercer]

asian bookies are the best

[Roxxyfish]

i think you mean asian cookies, I agree on that

asian bookies are the best

[vercer]

i mean unrated sbr books : sbobet/188bet/dafabet ,if willhill or bookmaker has A rating here ,asian books should be A+++

[Slainte]

asian books

[Eleven]

Never had a problem with WillHill or Ladbrokes, but Im not one to gamble big money.

[gangeriver]

it depends on the what you want.

*** if a person wants to take livebet, special soccer total lines (for example 1,5, 3,5, 4,5 ) or european basketball bets definitely he/she should use european books.

*** if a bettor interested in US sports, he/she should use off-shore books. most of european books offer 30 cent lines in US sports. Some of them offer 20 cent but have not props. Also off-shore books offer huge bonuses.


european books

+european sports' lines
+free payouts (generally we use e-wallets)
+livebet
+more usual software

-high US sport juice
-don't offer US sport props
-low bonuses
-low limits
-want lots of document.you are a potential scammer


off-shore books

+higher limits
+redujed (or lower) juice US sports
+US sports' props
+bigger bonuses
+they don't want so much documents

-don't offer european leagues lines especially european basketball
-don't offer livebet lines
-high payout fees
-limited payouts (850$ person to person)
-worse software

[lukahh]

you are much more likely to get ripped of offshore

[jjgold]

Ganger great post!!!

I am no fan of Asian books

Software too cluttered, hard to read, bad colors

Dont get me wrong the top 10 American Books are great just just lack great software, live betting and of course easy banking options

[horja1]

lately I use 12bet a lot ... and it's great not to have to check everytime when I made my last withdrawal, or if it was free or not, or if I can withdraw for the next 1/2/3 weeks ... 1-2 hours processed witdrawals are great ...

If you don't want to have problems with european books regarding documents just see what they want (ask them what documents they require to processy your first withdrawal) and send them all the requested documents even before making the first deposit (I am actually doing this with all books)

[jjgold]

Yes Horja...they do have strong and strict compliance departments

[gregm]

perhaps its because the Euro books are better regulated and don't have the history of scamming and stiffing which the Costa Rico books have so there is less need for an SBR to serve the players ?

Euro's have plenty to bet on during the week .. there is racing and soccer every day and cricket certainly isn't limited to weekends

I dont agree with that at all, Europe doesnt offer much variety for the gambler. Soccer is not every day by any means, its once a week for the major leagues, and betting on frech ligue 2 game is a sure sign of a gambling problem.if you have a champions league match you may get lucky and get a Tuesday or Wednesday, and these league 2 games are atrocious wagering on, the lines are awful. Racing is infrequent, luckily everyone has tennis.

I just think with America and its college sports and pro sports to wager on , the variety is vastly superior. Not to mention , America actually has alot of forums like SBR to discuss wagering, European forums are in the dark ages.

[Stefan]

If you don't want to have problems with european books regarding documents just see what they want (ask them what documents they require to processy your first withdrawal) and send them all the requested documents even before making the first deposit (I am actually doing this with all books)

That's the best way not to get problems with your first withdrawal. You don't need to wait for your first withdrawal during the verification process. There are a few bookies which are requesting immediately after sign up documents for the verification of your identity. In my opinion every bookie should act that way.

[Hareeba!]

betting on frech ligue 2 game is a sure sign of a gambling problem

Racing is infrequent,

the markets on lower leagues are far less efficient compared with the major leagues which everyone knows what the odds should be - most books are clueless on lesser leagues and the opportunities are greater if you are prepared to work on them

the UK has racing every day (as does Australia)

[gregm]

the markets on lower leagues are far less efficient compared with the major leagues which everyone knows what the odds should be - most books are clueless on lesser leagues and the opportunities are greater if you are prepared to work on them

the UK has racing every day (as does Australia)

Thats a good point on league 2 games hareeba. The only problem is I just have alot of trouble finding offshore books that offer anything like an asian line on the league 2 games and I rarely can find any good info, even in punters lounge, etc, about those lower league games. My knowledge of those lower leagues is limited and when you throw in a draw as a possibility, its a tough wager at times.

I was confused, I thought you meant auto racing, I totally agree about the horse tracks in australia and uk, great variety.

[tachi]

America actually has alot of forums like SBR to discuss wagering, European forums are in the dark ages.

languages are the big problem here.
if I want to go in a spanish forum,I have to know spanish,etc.
Surely many europeans understand english,but it is not comfortable,everyone prefers
his native language.

[gregm]

Good post, I may be missing alot of info on foreign language forums. For instance, I would love to see some spanish forums during clay season for tennis. I just haven't found many english language forums in europe for soccer other than punters lounge and alot of fan sites like ole ole.

It just seems bizarre to me that Europe doesn't have more forum sites like SBR, RX, etc. I will go on betfairs forum once in awhile, but that forum is sort of a joke.

[lukahh]

sbr forum is now not predominantly american - more non-usa posters it appears

[SportsMozart]

Europe is a free world, what can I say. I'm European and I live in US and I miss that freedom very much. Imagine that you have whole world wide open in front of you. You can play in any book you want, banks have no problems with your checks and you can use Moneybookers. You can have a sex on the park bench or in your car and drink beer on the street without being arrested. What a wonderful world Louis Armstrong would say. Now that on the side. Most of the Euro books are "for losers only". Even the famous William Hill tends to clap your wings if you win. So your options are Pinny, Betfair, Matchbook, SBO Bet, Center bet, 188 bet and Bet DAQ.

Nobody loves sportsbetting more than Americans, even the football crazy British 5 a clock tea drinkers. But here you don't have to decide as uncles upstairs are making those decisions for you. They know that you should not bet on sports but buy a lottery ticket instead so they can collect the money

[jjgold]

Euro books have a much more daily extensive betting menu than USA books, there is zero comparison, most UK books have more betting options on USA Sports than places like Jamaica does.

You cannot compare the two in any aspect of gambling

[HeeeHAWWWW]

All European books are crap. Terrible lines, terrible attitude.

[Hareeba!]

So your options are ...............................Center bet,

how the hell did they fit in that list ?

no better than all those Euro books

one of the first ones I was forced to close due to severe limiting

(assuming you mean Centrebet)

[Hareeba!]

All European books are crap. Terrible lines, terrible attitude.

plenty of good odds so long as you haven't been limited and can still play at them

[Yi]

Euro book is by far better than American book.

[blackf1re]

Thats a good point on league 2 games hareeba. The only problem is I just have alot of trouble finding offshore books that offer anything like an asian line on the league 2 games

Luckily there's still one Ligue 2 game to play this weekend: http://www.oddsportal.com/soccer/fra...e-335107/#ah;2

You can see that basically all the big books have an Asian line for that particular game.

In general you won't have problems finding Asian lines for England leagues 1-6, Germany/Italy/Spain/France 1-3. That is if you have access to Euro and Asian books.


Some more cons for US books:
- Cluttered softwares. IMO SBOBET has the best website by far. Pinnacle 2nd, most of the good Euro books are very easy to use as well.
- payout fees
- the fact that you have to be logged in to see any lines

[gregm]

Luckily there's still one Ligue 2 game to play this weekend: http://www.oddsportal.com/soccer/fra...e-335107/#ah;2

You can see that basically all the big books have an Asian line for that particular game.

In general you won't have problems finding Asian lines for England leagues 1-6, Germany/Italy/Spain/France 1-3. That is if you have access to Euro and Asian books.


Some more cons for US books:
- Cluttered softwares. IMO SBOBET has the best website by far. Pinnacle 2nd, most of the good Euro books are very easy to use as well.
- payout fees
- the fact that you have to be logged in to see any lines

Good post. it kills me to see the options Europeans, Asians and the rest of the world have in gambling. First we lose pinnacle, now matchbook, 5dimes is a great book but the european books out there are phenomenal. You cant even watch video on bet365 or bwin if you have an american ip address. Bwin has such a fantastic web site layout, its like the books who cater to americans know we have nowhere else to go, so why even try.