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  • pronk
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    • 11-22-08
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    DOJ involved in illegal gun smuggling to Mexico to pad statistics
    A brewing scandal at the Department of Justice involving an illegal scheme to pad statistics on U.S. guns in Mexico threatens to erupt as U.S. Senator Charles Grassley of the Senate Judiciary Committee begins an investigation. ATF agents of the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Explosives–a DOJ agency–allegedly smuggled U.S. guns into Mexico in order to bolster the Department’s disputed contention that Mexican drug cartels are armed primarily with U.S. guns. Whistleblowers within the ATF contend that one of the these guns was used to kill Border Patrol agent Brian A. Terry in December of 2010. News of the murder and the underlying scandal that prompted it was first reported on December 28, 2010.
    Rather than launch an internal investigation into the murder and the illegal scheme, the Department of Justice under Eric Holder, according to ATF whistleblowers, instead attempted a coverup.
    Denials are now part of standard operating procedure at the DOJ as the news media and Senator Grassley close in. Grassley’s inquiries have been met with stonewalling. But it appears that Grassley’s office so far isn’t buying DOJ denials. National Gun Rights Examiner David Codrea reports that Senator Grassley sent a personal memo to Eric Holder stating, ‘The Terry family deserves answers.’

    Obama administration involved in a criminal conspiracy against the American and Mexican people.

    Read this letter:

    CÓNSUL GENERAL SALVADOR DE LARA
    Consulado General de México en Atlanta
    1700 Chantilly Dr. NE
    Atlanta Georgia 30324


    Your Excellency,

    I have been asked by someone who knows you well to brief you in writing about what I know about the scandal known as ?Project Gunwalker? which resulted in the death of U.S. Border Patrol Agent Brian Terry on 14 December and especially on the deliberate, calculated and premeditated violation of Mexican sovereignty that this incident entailed.
    By now I understand that you have been made aware of the questionable circumstances surrounding the death of BPA Terry — how the ATF allowed over 2,000 semi-automatic rifles to be purchased by informants and ?straw purchasers? and smuggled south of the international border in an ill-conceived attempt by the ATF to boost the agency?s case for more funding in the much criticized ?Project Gunrunner.? In this operation, American gun stores were encouraged to allow questionable sales to go through, even when they called ATF to ask if they wished the transactions to be declined at the point of sale. (See the case of Carter?s County gun stores in the Houston area.)
    Here is what attorney Dick Deguerin was quoted as saying about this case, just a day before the murder of BPA Terry:
    ?Let me tell you something about Carter?s Country. They have been co-operating with ATF from the get go,? says attorney Dick Deguerin who represents Carter?s Country owner, Bill Carter.
    Deguerin says the U.S. Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms asked Carter?s Country to complete transactions, even when sales people strongly suspected the weapons were headed to Mexican drug gangs.
    ?They were told to go through with what they considered to be questionable sales. They were told to go through with sales of three or more assault rifles at the same time or five or more 9 millimeter guns at the same time or a young Hispanic male paying in cash. It?s all profiling, but they went through with it,? said Deguerin.
    It was inevitable that one or more of the weapons allowed to go south without notifying the appropriate authorities of your government would end up in the hands of criminals. Brian Terry is dead from a bullet fired from one of these. Statistical probability and plain logic indicates that far more than one of your own citizens have already been killed by them since this operation began.
    You should know that one ATF employee, Darren Gil, the ATF attache in Mexico City, tried to do the right thing. Though he was kept out of the ?intelligence loop? by Special Agent in Charge of the Phoenix, Arizona office, William D. ?Bill? Newell, my understanding from other ATF agents who have now been contacted by Senator Grassley?s office, is that Mr. Gil, when he learned by informal communication channels that this was happening, clashed with SAC Newell over whether your government should be notified. Newell insisted that there would be no notification of the appropriate Mexican authorities. Mr. Gil, I am told, did not take the word of a mere SAC when such an action involved possible violations of treaty and formal understandings between our two governments, contacted his superiors in Washington, D.C. In a meeting that I am told included Lanny Breuer, the Assistant Attorney General for the Criminal Division of the U.S. Department of Justice, Deputy Director Melson of ATF and various subordinates, it was decided to keep the government of Mexico in the dark. Mr. Gil, in return for his honest attempt to prevent an effusion of blood as well as an international incident, was forced into retirement and did so on 31 December of last year. Here, in words of an experienced ATF street agent, is what I was told on 17 December 2010:
    ?Darren Gil, former attache to Mexico is an honest and honorable guy. He was forcefully removed from Mexico without warning in November in large part because he wouldn?t sit silent on these matters. He will tell the truth if asked by competent authority. He retired Dec 31 because of all this.?
    I understand that representations have been made to your government informally that this was an isolated incident. Yet, if that were the case, then why did our Attorney General Eric Holder select SAC Newell to replace Darren Gil earlier this week? He is to go to Mexico City and take over the attache position by 8 May according to ATF orders.
    This again is a studied and deliberate insult to the government and sovereignty of the Republic of Mexico. To select the man who insisted that your government be lied to, either by omission or commission, cannot be otherwise interpreted.
    I urge you to press this question with the U.S. State Department at the earliest opportunity. At the least, the government of the United States owes the Mexican government an abject apology for allowing this scandal to threaten the lives of Mexican citizens and the safety of your streets. Whether such an outrage demands monetary damages is, of course, a matter of consideration for your government. I would say, however, after many years of studying the ATF from near and far, that talk is cheap, promises forgotten and apologies insincere. Money damages, on the other hand, is a coin of the realm they well understand.
    If I can be of further service, do not hesitate to contact me.

    Sincerely,
    Mike Vanderboegh


    America, this is the time to wake the hell UP before it's too late!!!



  • excel
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    • 03-25-10
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    #2
    Nothing wrong with that.
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    • lemart5
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      #3
      They did the same thing with cocaine
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      • chilidog
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        • 04-05-09
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        #4
        We love our guns, so what?
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        • cant call it
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          #5
          So you are telling me govt undergoes secret false flag operations?
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          • pronk
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            • 11-22-08
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            #6
            Originally posted by chilidog
            We love our guns, so what?
            "Big Ears" want's to take your guns away by scamming us with this bullshit you stupid idiot.

            The National Rifle Association of America strongly opposes President Obama's nomination of Andrew Traver as director of the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (BATFE). Traver has been deeply aligned with gun control advocates and anti-gun activities. This makes him the wrong choice to lead an enforcement agency that has almost exclusive oversight and control over the firearms industry, its retailers and consumers. Further, an important nomination such as BATFE director should not be made as a "recess appointment," in order to circumvent consent by the American people through their duly-elected U.S. Senators.
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            • chilidog
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              • 04-05-09
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              #7
              Originally posted by pronk

              "Big Ears" want's to take your guns away by scamming us with this bullshit you stupid idiot.

              The National Rifle Association of America strongly opposes President Obama's nomination of Andrew Traver as director of the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (BATFE). Traver has been deeply aligned with gun control advocates and anti-gun activities. This makes him the wrong choice to lead an enforcement agency that has almost exclusive oversight and control over the firearms industry, its retailers and consumers. Further, an important nomination such as BATFE director should not be made as a "recess appointment," in order to circumvent consent by the American people through their duly-elected U.S. Senators.
              Babble babble babble. Nobody is taking away our guns. We love our guns, our food, our fast cars, our money, and our mommas. Nobody's taking shit away from us.
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              • excel
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                #8
                Guns don't kill people, people like jjgold kill people.
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                • pronk
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                  • 11-22-08
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                  #9
                  Again, our Lame Stream Media is trying to cover this up by ignoring it. I hope that NRA, GOA and SAF keep up the heat. This will derail any attempt by the current admin to further their anti-gun policy.
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                  • chilidog
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                    • 04-05-09
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                    #10
                    You talk too much.
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                    • pronk
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                      • 11-22-08
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                      #11
                      Originally posted by cant call it
                      So you are telling me govt undergoes secret false flag operations?
                      No, illuminati baboon's are telling us what has to be done and how to turn us into hypnotized puppets
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                      • pronk
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                        #12




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                        • YorkHunt
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                          #13
                          Great influence to these mexicans

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                          • doublej95
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                            • 01-26-10
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                            #14
                            The USA has been the largest arms dealer for many years. No real big news
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                            • YorkHunt
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                              #15
                              The USA was also the country who gave Osama Bin Ladins crew their weapons so like DJ said no surprise
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                              • doublej95
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                                #16
                                Exactly Yorkie. We always supply the enemy of our enemies and it never works out to well in the end.
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                                • pronk
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                                  • LVHerbie
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                                    #18
                                    Documents: Feds allegedly allowed Sinaloa cartel to move cocaine into U.S. for information

                                    U.S. federal agents allegedly allowed the Sinaloa drug cartel to traffic several tons of cocaine into the United States in exchange for information about rival cartels, according to court documents filed in a U.S. federal court.
                                    The allegations are part of the defense of Vicente Zambada-Niebla, who was extradited to the United States to face drug-trafficking charges in Chicago. He is also a top lieutenant of drug kingpin Joaquin "Chapo" Guzman and the son of Ismael "Mayo" Zambada-Garcia, believed to be the brains behind the Sinaloa cartel.
                                    The case could prove to be a bombshell on par with the U.S. Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives' "Operation Fast and Furious," except that instead of U.S. guns being allowed to walk across the border, the Sinaloa cartel was allowed to bring drugs into the United States. Zambada-Niebla claims he was permitted to smuggle drugs from 2004 until his arrest in 2009.
                                    Randall Samborn, assistant U.S. attorney and spokesman for the Justice Department in Chicago, declined comment.
                                    The court in Chicago had a status hearing on Wednesday and ordered the government to respond to allegations in Zambada-Niebla's motion by Sept. 11.
                                    According to the court documents, Mexican lawyer Humberto Loya-Castro, another high-level Sinaloa cartel leader, had his 1995 U.S. drug-trafficking case dismissed in 2008 after serving as an informant for 10 years for the U.S. government.
                                    Guzman and the Zambadas allegedly provided agents of the Drug

                                    Enforcement Administration, FBI and U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement with information about other Mexican drug traffickers through Loya-Castro.
                                    "Loya himself continued his drug trafficking activities with the knowledge of the United States government without being arrested or prosecuted," the court documents state.
                                    Zambada-Niebla met voluntarily with U.S. federal agents on March 17, 2009, at the Sheraton Hotel in Mexico City, which is near the U.S. Embassy, "for the purpose of his continuing to provide information to the DEA and the U.S. government personally, rather than through Loya," court records allege.
                                    "DEA agents (then) told Loya-Castro to tell Mr. Zambada-Niebla that they wanted to continue the same arrangements with him as they had with Mr. Loya-Castro."
                                    Five hours after the meeting, Mexican authorities arrested Zambada-Niebla and extradited him later to the United States. His father and Guzman are fugitives.
                                    The court documents also allege that the U.S. government is using a "divide and conquer" strategy, "using one drug organization to help against others."
                                    Zambada-Niebla's motion seeks U.S. government records about the 2003 Juárez case involving an informant who participated in several homicides for the Carrillo-Fuentes drug cartel, while under ICE's supervision.
                                    He also requested records about the ATF's "Operation Fast and Furious," which permitted weapons purchased illegally in the United States to be smuggled into Mexico, sometimes by paid U.S. informants and cartel leaders.
                                    "It is estimated that approximately 3,000 people were killed in Mexico as a result of 'Operation Fast and Furious,' including law enforcement officers in the state of Sinaloa, Mexico, the headquarters of the Sinaloa cartel," the court documents allege. "The Department of Justice's leadership apparently saw this as an ingenious way of combating drug cartel activities."
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                                    • kingdom
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                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by pronk
                                      No, illuminati baboon's are telling us what has to be done and how to turn us into hypnotized puppets
                                      Ding. just showed your idiocy.
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                                      • pronk
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                                        • 11-22-08
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                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by kingdom
                                        Ding. just showed your idiocy.
                                        They got you doped up skippy and your "educated" mind is playing tricks on you
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                                        • pronk
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