Classic sequence to finish this game

**rsnnh12** · 03-23-11, 01:06 AM

Didn't Kobe miss 5+ shots in the last minute of reg and in OT that could have put them ahead/sealed the win? And not passing the ball in the 5 on 3 transition and turning it over. Kobe isn't that clutch.

VC sucks though lol

**No coincidences** · 03-23-11, 01:10 AM

Originally posted by rsnnh12

Didn't Kobe miss 5+ shots in the last minute of reg and in OT that could have put them ahead/sealed the win? And not passing the ball in the 5 on 3 transition and turning it over. Kobe isn't that clutch.

VC sucks though lol

If he isn't, I'd like to know who you think is.

**rsnnh12** · 03-23-11, 01:16 AM

Originally posted by No coincidences

If he isn't, I'd like to know who you think is.

I guess we should clarify clutch. Do you mean last 5 minutes of a game and taking over, or hitting last shot to tie/win/put game away?

Kobe definitely meets the first part (he and Lebron are far and away top 2 there)

**onetrickpony** · 03-23-11, 01:19 AM

fuk all yous vc15 haters, go suck a dick

**Stacocakes** · 03-23-11, 01:20 AM

Surprised dynamite hasn't posted in this thread yet

**No coincidences** · 03-23-11, 01:21 AM

Originally posted by onetrickpony

fuk all yous vc15 haters, go suck a dick

Dude, he's been pretty much the most all-style/no-substance player in the league since he joined. His wide-left brick to finish regulation and clank of a wide-open 3 in the third OT were classic Vince.

**No coincidences** · 03-23-11, 01:22 AM

Originally posted by Stacocakes

Surprised dynamite hasn't posted in this thread yet

I'll save you the suspense:

YET ANOTHER USELESS THREAD BY NO COINCIDENCES.

**slimstevie** · 03-23-11, 01:26 AM

Originally posted by rsnnh12

Didn't Kobe miss 5+ shots in the last minute of reg and in OT that could have put them ahead/sealed the win? And not passing the ball in the 5 on 3 transition and turning it over. Kobe isn't that clutch.

VC sucks though lol

kobe isnt clutch? are you out of your mind. you must be joking

**HoulihansTX** · 03-23-11, 01:27 AM

Vince Carter was brutal.

**No coincidences** · 03-23-11, 01:32 AM

Originally posted by HoulihansTX

Vince Carter was brutal.

It's got to be embarrassing to see all of your teammates stepping up big around you while you're going 7-for-23 from the field, 2 of 13 from distance and hauling in a grand total of 3 rebounds in 40 minutes.

Vince Carter is brutal.

**lunchbawks** · 03-23-11, 01:34 AM

phx covered somehow. can't imagine too many were on the suns ML

**Domestic** · 03-23-11, 01:35 AM

Looking forward to checking out the highlights of this.

**No coincidences** · 03-23-11, 01:37 AM

Originally posted by Domestic

Looking forward to checking out the highlights of this.

Make sure to catch the 3 he attempted at the end of regulation. He Scott Norwood-ed it (except I think Vince's shot was wide left instead of wide right).

**rsnnh12** · 03-23-11, 01:38 AM

Originally posted by slimstevie

kobe isnt clutch? are you out of your mind. you must be joking

He's 6/21 on playoff game-winning/tying shots... there's at least 5-10 current players I would want taking the last shot over him

**No coincidences** · 03-23-11, 01:40 AM

Originally posted by rsnnh12

He's 6/21 on playoff game-winning/tying shots... there's at least 5-10 current players I would want taking the last shot over him

Like?

**CanuckG** · 03-23-11, 01:40 AM

According to this Carter is more clutch than Bryant.

NBA Player Clutch Statistics from 82games.com

http://www.82games.com/clutchplay3.htm

A look at the current leading players in various statistical areas during the clutch moments of games (Part III).

"In the final 24 seconds of playoff games, Bryant has racked up almost as many airballs as makes, making just below 30 percent of game-tying or go-ahead shots."

**Rich Boy** · 03-23-11, 01:41 AM

Originally posted by No coincidences

Like?

Paul Pierce

**onetrickpony** · 03-23-11, 01:41 AM

Originally posted by CanuckG

According to this Carter is more clutch than Bryant. http://www.82games.com/clutchplay3.htm "In the final 24 seconds of playoff games, Bryant has racked up almost as many airballs as makes, making just below 30 percent of game-tying or go-ahead shots."

carter is clutch make no doubt about it, this was one game

**BetterBizness** · 03-23-11, 01:42 AM

FU Coin.. What a useless thread....

FM I posted in it... ah well.. u win!

**No coincidences** · 03-23-11, 01:43 AM

Originally posted by CanuckG

According to this Carter is more clutch than Bryant.

NBA Player Clutch Statistics from 82games.com

http://www.82games.com/clutchplay3.htm

A look at the current leading players in various statistical areas during the clutch moments of games (Part III).

"In the final 24 seconds of playoff games, Bryant has racked up almost as many airballs as makes, making just below 30 percent of game-tying or go-ahead shots."

That's a definite "stats are for nerds" link.

I doubt one NBA GM or coach would take Vince Carter over Kobe in a clutch situation.

**PAYTON20** · 03-23-11, 01:44 AM

VC had a some crazy clutch shots a week or two ago @ OKC that kept the Suns alive.

His clutch FT shooting is very suspect, however

**No coincidences** · 03-23-11, 01:44 AM

Originally posted by onetrickpony

carter is clutch make no doubt about it, this was one game

**onetrickpony** · 03-23-11, 01:45 AM

Originally posted by No coincidences

That's a definite "stats are for nerds" link. I doubt one NBA GM or coach would take Vince Carter over Kobe in a clutch situation.

stats dont lie, ur statement is an opinion. kobe is not god, no need to let him skeet in ur mouth

**No coincidences** · 03-23-11, 01:45 AM

Originally posted by Rich Boy

Paul Pierce

I would definitely consider Pierce vs. Kobe. He said 5-10 -- I'd like to see them.

FTR, I'm not even a Kobe Bryant fan. At all.

**slimstevie** · 03-23-11, 01:46 AM

Originally posted by rsnnh12

He's 6/21 on playoff game-winning/tying shots... there's at least 5-10 current players I would want taking the last shot over him

you must be a kobe hater. you are crazy if u would consider 5-10 current players instead of kobe to take the last shot.

i'm assuming ur a kobe well u must be for saying that so you would probably take Lebron and Wade to take the last shot instead of Kobe. How has that worked out for Miami

**No coincidences** · 03-23-11, 01:47 AM

Originally posted by CanuckG

According to this Carter is more clutch than Bryant.

NBA Player Clutch Statistics from 82games.com

http://www.82games.com/clutchplay3.htm

A look at the current leading players in various statistical areas during the clutch moments of games (Part III).

"In the final 24 seconds of playoff games, Bryant has racked up almost as many airballs as makes, making just below 30 percent of game-tying or go-ahead shots."

How old is that link, BTW? I see Larry Hughes and Jerry Stackhouse on it -- WTF?

Here's this year:

Sortable NBA Player Clutch stats

http://www.82games.com/1011/CSORT11.HTM

NBA 2009-10 season player clutch stats in the fourth quarter and overtime of close games, including points, rebounds, assists, field goal percentage and more.

**shawnjohn5** · 03-23-11, 01:48 AM

Did Kobe miss 5 shots in the last minute and overtime?? Probably, but he made some great passes to gasol and artest, and drained big shot when needed. You say he missed 5 shots in the last minute and ot that's 16min of games, how many players miss 5 shots in a span of 16minutes, plenty of them do. Kobe was clutch as nails today, I hate the damn lakers, but facts are facts.

**No coincidences** · 03-23-11, 01:49 AM

Vince Carter more clutch than Kobe.

I've read it all now.

**HoulihansTX** · 03-23-11, 01:50 AM

Originally posted by No coincidences

I would definitely consider Pierce vs. Kobe. He said 5-10 -- I'd like to see them. FTR, I'm not even a Kobe Bryant fan. At all.

Carmelo Anthony.
D-Wade
Brandon Roy
Jason Terry

Kobe is full of himself, and tonight was a great example. He hoisted up at least 4 straight bricks in OT, B4 attempting a pass. Gasol got the ball twice in OT, and went 2 for 2.

**rsnnh12** · 03-23-11, 01:50 AM

Originally posted by No coincidences

Like?

Melo
Durantula
Ray Allen
Pierce
Rondo (kidding)
Wade
Nash
Billups
Frye (if just based on this year)
And, of course, the White Mamba, Brian Scalabrine

Edit- forgot Jason Terry

**CanuckG** · 03-23-11, 01:51 AM

Originally posted by No coincidences

How old is that link, BTW? I see Larry Hughes and Jerry Stackhouse on it -- WTF?

Here's this year:

http://www.82games.com/1011/CSORT11.HTM

Same old same old Kobe is 'semi-clutch' but vastly overrated.

**No coincidences** · 03-23-11, 01:52 AM

Originally posted by HoulihansTX

Carmelo Anthony.
D-Wade
Brandon Roy
Jason Terry

Kobe is full of himself, and tonight was a great example. He hoisted up at least 4 straight bricks in OT, B4 attempting a pass. Gasol got the ball twice in OT, and went 2 for 2.

Carmelo?

Alright Houli, I'm going to let this thread die because I hate defending Kobe.

If you'd say Ray Allen, Pierce or even Durantula, you'd maybe have my attention.

**CanuckG** · 03-23-11, 01:52 AM

Originally posted by rsnnh12

Melo
Durantula
Ray Allen
Pierce
Rondo (kidding)
Wade
Nash
Billups
Frye (if just based on this year)
And, of course, the White Mamba, Brian Scalabrine

def. not Durant. Every time I watch him he chokes.

**PAYTON20** · 03-23-11, 01:54 AM

VC used to be... just like his career. The guy is done