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  • Francis Sollozzo
    SBR MVP
    • 11-15-07
    • 2381

    #1
    Having the 'right side' doesnt mean you cash
    Not sour grapes because it has happened too many times

    Ov92.5 2nd half hou/utah was the right side but

    went 4-1 tonight so aint so bad
  • bettilimbroke999
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 02-04-08
    • 13254

    #2
    Had over 93 2nd Half and was praying one of those airball 3's they put up in the last min would go in . Always twice as painful to lose by a half point or point.
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    • Francis Sollozzo
      SBR MVP
      • 11-15-07
      • 2381

      #3
      Originally posted by bettilimbroke999
      Had over 93 2nd Half and was praying one of those airball 3's they put up in the last min would go in . Always twice as painful to lose by a half point or point.
      Houston's 11pt 3rd was a killer
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      • 2Pac
        SBR MVP
        • 12-12-07
        • 1474

        #4
        Yes it does you ****ing numbskull.

        The WINNING SIDE is the correct side. The end result is the only thing that matters. "Upsets" are part of the game.

        That's why Crazyl's signature pisses me off so much...something like "There isn't a wrong side, only a wrong price."

        The wrong side is the side that fukking loses you morons.
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        • bettilimbroke999
          SBR Posting Legend
          • 02-04-08
          • 13254

          #5
          If I gave you NE Patriots -110 to win the SuperBowl against the Giants, is it a bad bet just b/c the Giants won??
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          • pico
            BARRELED IN @ SBR!
            • 04-05-07
            • 27321

            #6
            why do you think over is the right side? when there is a blow out total tend to go under. rockets plays defensively. tmac is tired, allston out. under should be the right play.
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            • bettilimbroke999
              SBR Posting Legend
              • 02-04-08
              • 13254

              #7
              Originally posted by picoman
              why do you think over is the right side? when there is a blow out total tend to go under. rockets plays defensively. tmac is tired, allston out. under should be the right play.
              Was a 4 pt game at the time 112 pts scored in 1st half, Rockets scored 11 in the 3rd Quarter and it only went under by a half point (92). The over was the correct play IMO, but it's not written in stone, I would certainly have expected the Rockets to have played better than they did in the 2nd Half but if you knew they were going to lose the 2nd Half by 18 you should've gone all in on Utah -3 1/2.
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              • pico
                BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                • 04-05-07
                • 27321

                #8
                Originally posted by bettilimbroke999
                Was a 4 pt game at the time 112 pts scored in 1st half, Rockets scored 11 in the 3rd Quarter and it only went under by a half point (92). The over was the correct play IMO, but it's not written in stone, I would certainly have expected the Rockets to have played better than they did in the 2nd Half but if you knew they were going to lose the 2nd Half by 18 you should've gone all in on Utah -3 1/2.
                i did...not all in, but 20 units
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                • bettilimbroke999
                  SBR Posting Legend
                  • 02-04-08
                  • 13254

                  #9
                  Originally posted by picoman
                  i did...not all in, but 20 units
                  Good for you then, not all of us knew Houston would score 5 in the first 8 mins like you did. People get on here bitching about Utah's pathetic when they go from 19 up to 4 up at the half, then when they go back up 19 in the 2nd half they claim it was obvious it was going to be a Utah blowout at halftime LOL.
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                  • 2Pac
                    SBR MVP
                    • 12-12-07
                    • 1474

                    #10
                    Originally posted by bettilimbroke999
                    If I gave you NE Patriots -110 to win the SuperBowl against the Giants, is it a bad bet just b/c the Giants won??
                    Its a bad bet because it lost, yes.

                    Winners = correct = good
                    Losers = incorrect = bad

                    There is no gray area here (considering there isn't a push)
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                    • DrunkenLullaby
                      SBR MVP
                      • 03-30-07
                      • 1631

                      #11
                      Originally posted by 2Pac
                      Its a bad bet because it lost, yes.

                      Winners = correct = good
                      Losers = incorrect = bad

                      There is no gray area here (considering there isn't a push)


                      Just remember guys, going all-in with 2-3 offsuit against pocket aces when the flop comes A-8-4 is actually a good bet because 4th street might be a 5 followed by a 6 on the river. Please don't forget this when you're at my table.
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                      • bettilimbroke999
                        SBR Posting Legend
                        • 02-04-08
                        • 13254

                        #12
                        Originally posted by 2Pac
                        Its a bad bet because it lost, yes.

                        Winners = correct = good
                        Losers = incorrect = bad

                        There is no gray area here (considering there isn't a push)
                        Hmm, seems like you may be misunderstanding what we mean by a good bet. No bet (unless it's a typo line like under 230 1st half I saw one time) is assured of winning or losing, if I knew the bet was going to lose by a half point I wouldn't have placed it so from that standpoint it was a bad bet in that it lost money on this particular night, but not being psychic we can only make bets that are more likely to win than lose and that's what we call a good bet. The net result of making +EV bets should be good and -EV bets bad when judging them over a longer period than just one night.
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                        • LVHerbie
                          SBR Hall of Famer
                          • 09-15-05
                          • 6344

                          #13
                          Originally posted by DrunkenLullaby


                          Just remember guys, going all-in with 2-3 offsuit against pocket aces when the flop comes A-8-4 is actually a good bet because 4th street might be a 5 followed by a 6 on the river. Please don't forget this when you're at my table.
                          This is the correct thought IMO... if you make enough bets individual results don't matter... over a lifetime all that matters is that you had more +EV then -EV situations BEFORE you place the bets...
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                          • LVHerbie
                            SBR Hall of Famer
                            • 09-15-05
                            • 6344

                            #14
                            one individual result becomes mathically insignificant would be a better way to phrase that I guess...
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                            • imgv94
                              SBR Posting Legend
                              • 11-16-05
                              • 17192

                              #15
                              Originally posted by DrunkenLullaby


                              Just remember guys, going all-in with 2-3 offsuit against pocket aces when the flop comes A-8-4 is actually a good bet because 4th street might be a 5 followed by a 6 on the river. Please don't forget this when you're at my table.
                              Good post
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                              • jjgold
                                SBR Aristocracy
                                • 07-20-05
                                • 388208

                                #16
                                I love when we lose and say we were on the "right" side. I guess it makes us feel better. But who we kidding if we lose we are on the "wrong" side no matter what happened.
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                                • LT Profits
                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                  • 10-27-06
                                  • 90963

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by 2Pac
                                  Its a bad bet because it lost, yes.

                                  Winners = correct = good
                                  Losers = incorrect = bad

                                  There is no gray area here (considering there isn't a push)
                                  WRONG!

                                  A good bet is a bet that figurues to be profitable in the long run. Taking the Giants/Pats scenario, the Patriots would win that game outright AT LEAST 80% of the time, so Pats -110 would have been a GREAT bet. The fact that this was one of the 20% that lost is irrelevant.
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