POLL: Bullshit call on Mich St.?

**louisvillekid** · 03-17-11, 10:57 PM

i didnt think so, and i had no money on it either

**mattmc419** · 03-17-11, 10:57 PM

Yeah he did.

And Lucas shoved the defender away with the off arm a couple plays before that. Should have been an offensive foul, but the refs gave him free throws instead.

State lost this one all on their own

**DiggityDaggityDo** · 03-17-11, 11:00 PM

I did not see traveling. Even on the slow motion instant replays I did not see traveling. Just saying.

**Jonah** · 03-17-11, 11:00 PM

Surprised he made that call. Good Call.

**mattmc419** · 03-17-11, 11:02 PM

Wish I could vote both 1 and 3

As a Michigan fan, it's great seeing State out already!

**rsnnh12** · 03-17-11, 11:04 PM

Originally posted by mattmc419

Yeah he did.

And Lucas shoved the defender away with the off arm a couple plays before that. Should have been an offensive foul, but the refs gave him free throws instead.

State lost this one all on their own

And UCLA pushed off on the in-bounds with 4 seconds left...

Obvious bias is obvious.

It was a fairly weak call in my opinion

**csm506** · 03-17-11, 11:04 PM

Nobody cares they did not even deserve to be in

**starfire** · 03-17-11, 11:06 PM

Looked like a DiggyDogDo travel too me

**agharah1** · 03-17-11, 11:07 PM

What I *did* see was Durrell Summers wide open on the other side of the court.

**Prop Bet Master** · 03-17-11, 11:07 PM

It wouldn't have mattered, there's no way he would have made that shot.

**mattmc419** · 03-17-11, 11:08 PM

Originally posted by rsnnh12

And UCLA pushed off on the in-bounds with 4 seconds left...

Obvious bias is obvious.

It was a fairly weak call in my opinion

The odds of them hitting a shot from beyond half court with two defenders on the ball is pretty slim anyways.

Under 40% shooting and falling down by 20 is more important than having a 50+ foot heave attempt taken away from you.

**ringemup** · 03-17-11, 11:12 PM

u don play much ball do u? that was obvious u cant take take two steps and not dribble the ball.

**SmokinGood** · 03-17-11, 11:17 PM

So obvious that it was a travel...If Mich State made that run a minute earlier they would have won by 5

**HOT WINGS** · 03-17-11, 11:25 PM

Originally posted by mattmc419

Wish I could vote both 1 and 3

As a Michigan fan, it's great seeing State out already!

Michigan is a

tomorrow

**donkdown** · 03-17-11, 11:28 PM

Who cares he wasnt making the shot anyway!! He 100% traveled!! I hate to see this teams season come to an end! I never made more money fading a team in 1 season as I did them!! Thnks Izzo!!!

**mattmc419** · 03-17-11, 11:30 PM

Originally posted by HOT WINGS

Michigan is a

tomorrow

I hope so!

I'm so excited about this team's future. A win tomorrow would be a great first step.

**WileOut** · 03-17-11, 11:31 PM

He did not travel on the one they called but then he did travel after the first bounce. He caught the ball, took 2 steps then right before the 3rd step he dribbled once, then took 3 or 4 steps before releasing the shot. They blew the whistle before the dribble I believe.

**sdtrader** · 03-17-11, 11:35 PM

That was a travel, they got the call right.

**Brian891** · 03-17-11, 11:36 PM

he definitely travelled at some point in that series. sucks that he was so obvious about it. lot of dubious play by these kids in the last few seconds of games. couple of big shots, but a couple of huge flubs. i love march!!!

**Monitor-Tan** · 03-17-11, 11:41 PM

It was the right call that was travel

**SprayBoy** · 03-17-11, 11:46 PM

yeah i think it was a travel

**FuzzyDunlop** · 03-17-11, 11:47 PM

Total travel, you really have to do something egregious to get a whistle there. Good call.

**jnickell100** · 03-17-11, 11:51 PM

It doesnt matter. Ok he didnt travel....But he still missed the shot so ultimately the call was irrelevant .

**Tomasitas** · 03-18-11, 12:00 AM

refs made good call

**BranchDavidian** · 03-18-11, 12:01 AM

It sucks that basketball is a game decided by refs rather than players. All this disagreement over a traveling call I could take. What drives me crazy is figuring out how charging and blocking calls are made. Time after time, I see Shaq backing up toward the rim simply pushing the defender out of the way with his backside --- yet, if any call is made, it is on the defender for blocking even tho he did nothing but stand there. Same thing when a player drives to the basket and a defender is just standing there with his arms up. Time after time, the guy just standing there with his arms straight up in the air gets called for blocking. I don't see how any basketball team ever gets stopped, the refs do not allow defenders to defend.

**DiggityDaggityDo** · 03-18-11, 12:02 AM

Originally posted by starfire

Looked like a DiggyDogDo travel too me

I did not travel, bro. I don't even know what that means?

**InTheDrink** · 03-18-11, 12:03 AM

Doug Gottlieb was right. Sparty blows

**DiggityDaggityDo** · 03-18-11, 12:07 AM

Originally posted by WileOut

He did not travel on the one they called but then he did travel after the first bounce. He caught the ball, took 2 steps then right before the 3rd step he dribbled once, then took 3 or 4 steps before releasing the shot. They blew the whistle before the dribble I believe.

So there should have been more time on the clock then?

**DiggityDaggityDo** · 03-18-11, 12:25 AM

Originally posted by BranchDavidian

It sucks that basketball is a game decided by refs rather than players. All this disagreement over a traveling call I could take. What drives me crazy is figuring out how charging and blocking calls are made. Time after time, I see Shaq backing up toward the rim simply pushing the defender out of the way with his backside --- yet, if any call is made, it is on the defender for blocking even tho he did nothing but stand there. Same thing when a player drives to the basket and a defender is just standing there with his arms up. Time after time, the guy just standing there with his arms straight up in the air gets called for blocking. I don't see how any basketball team ever gets stopped, the refs do not allow defenders to defend.

Are you nuts? You can say all that stuff... but what about when it comes to hack-a-shaq? And it really has nothing to do with Shaq, although that is where the name came from. Now we got hack-a-Howard!

Seriously, why is it ok for anybody to flagrant foul big men just cuz they cant shoot free throws? A Flagrant foul is a mother fukking flagrant foul. When a team is so weak that they cannot win a game without fouling the worst free throw shooter, no matter how big or dominat that mother fukker is, something needs to be done about it.

Fouls are fine. But something should be done about flagrant fouls. Maybe 3 free throws? YEAH! Hack-a-Shaq would come to an end if hack-a-shaq fouls were flagrants. And they should be!!!

**mattmc419** · 03-18-11, 12:35 AM

I completely agree with Branch.

Defense has continually been taken out of the game of basketball over the last 5 years.

Remember in 2004 when the Pistons were able to hold a ton of teams in a row under 70 points? And when San Antonio was great defensively? Both those teams were able to win championships off great gritty defense.

After the Pistons did it, the NBA made a ton of rules on hand-checking, etc that made teams unable to play physically and play good defense. Now you never see teams held under 70. You usually don't even see them held under the high 90s.

All rules/calls tilt towards the offense now.

As far as Hack-a-Shaq, hard fouls at the rim are a good part of the game. But that's not even really what it's about. Usually, it's just an intentional foul (as you would see at the end of games) to purposely put the player on the line. It's been done to my team before too (Ben Wallace), but I don't think it's a bad rule. The player has 2 options - learn to shoot free throws, or come out of the game if a team starts using the strategy.

Anyways, I'm all for the old days of defense coming back. The Bad Boys and 2003-2008 Pistons showed how much playing defense can accomplish, and the NBA wants to take that all away in favor of more flashy plays.

**DiggityDaggityDo** · 03-18-11, 12:42 AM

Too much to read up there tonight. I'm topo drunk to read a whole chapter of a fukkin book. lol Dunno what that guy said. I hope he stood up for me! LOL!!!!!!!

**EmpireMaker** · 03-18-11, 12:46 AM

when these college players make a move to the basket at the top of the key how many steps do they take ???
It's wrong to knock any team out on that marginal shit unless they have been calling all travels all game long which clearly the zebras don't do.

**DiggityDaggityDo** · 03-18-11, 12:57 AM

Originally posted by EmpireMaker

when these college players make a move to the basket at the top of the key how many steps do they take ???
It's wrong to knock any team out on that marginal shit unless they have been calling all travels all game long which clearly the zebras don't do.

Exactly, but what can u do right? The Refs won this round, lets get 'em nect round, brotha.

I've got some sneaky shit up my sleave for the next round!!!!

And it ain;t no Bobby Brown shit!!!!!

:P

**DaHoss** · 03-18-11, 01:20 AM

It was definitely travelling. You are not allowed to take one step without the ball leaving your hand. Referees allow you to take one step as long as the ball is in the process of going to the floor. That fucker took one step , then he released the ball as he was taking a second step .. Tweet travel game ovs right call

It just gets obscured by NBA rules that allow stars to palm the ball as they do a blow by and carry it before releasing it. They get away with so much shit theyve basically changed some rules of the game. I guarantee some dudes would be pretty average if they couldnt get away with things they do.