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  • Casperwaits
    SBR Hall of Famer
    • 08-25-06
    • 5042

    #1
    Another Fixed NBA Game
    Clippers down by 10 with 0.9 seconds left. Total is 197.5. Foye takes shot to make it 198. PLEASE tell me that the game wasn't fixed. I am daring you. Add the fact the their were 7 foulshots taken by the Clippers in the last 4 seconds in the first half (including 2 technicals) and you have a game NO DOUBT was fixed for the OVER to cover. happens WAY to often in the NBA. A point shaving scandal is a comissioner firing or retirement away. I guarantee you.
  • iifold
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 04-25-10
    • 11111

    #2
    They make too much Casper..

    You're on tilt...

    Maybe the refs, but not the players....
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    • Extra Innings
      SBR Posting Legend
      • 02-26-10
      • 15058

      #3
      Been there how there is another Casper who cashed is over. He figures he made the right play.
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      • Casperwaits
        SBR Hall of Famer
        • 08-25-06
        • 5042

        #4
        Originally posted by iifold
        They make too much Casper.. You're on tilt... Maybe the refs, but not the players....
        Don't care who fixed it, but I guarantee you it was fixed. Oh, Foye ain't rich. NBA players spend $$ like it is water. You think he isn't still greedy for more cash? Considering we had a ref that fixed games, admitted to fixing MORE than he was indicted for (but they never charged him on those...wonder why) and HOW MANY NBA totals are off by a point or LESS!!!! This isn't coincidence.
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        • Casperwaits
          SBR Hall of Famer
          • 08-25-06
          • 5042

          #5
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          Originally posted by Extra Innings
          Been there how there is another Casper who cashed is over. He figures he made the right play.
          Extra, someone else may have won, but when the game is FIXED, who cares? If I lose fair and square, that's one thing. When you lose because the fix is in, that negates any sense of fair play.
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          • frostno98
            SBR Hall of Famer
            • 09-11-07
            • 9769

            #6
            Was the ball inbound at half court, if that's the case then them taking a shot is not unusual since NBA players do that all the time to pile on stats.

            If the ball was inbound from the end of the full court line then players usually just concede to the loss. If it's inbound at the half court, they're more likely to take a shot.
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            • Giroux
              SBR MVP
              • 12-16-10
              • 1438

              #7
              If he decided not to shoot would it have been a fix for the under?
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              • Giroux
                SBR MVP
                • 12-16-10
                • 1438

                #8
                Originally posted by frostno98
                Was the ball inbound at half court, if that's the case then them taking a shot is not unusual since NBA players do that all the time to pile on stats.

                If the ball was inbound from the end of the full court line then players usually just concede to the loss. If it's inbound at the half court, they're more likely to take a shot.
                It was an 18 foot baseline jumper. Nothing unusual about it.
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                • tcmoody99
                  SBR High Roller
                  • 12-21-10
                  • 236

                  #9
                  Wish I woulda bet on that one
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                  • Casperwaits
                    SBR Hall of Famer
                    • 08-25-06
                    • 5042

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Giroux
                    It was an 18 foot baseline jumper. Nothing unusual about it.
                    Did you see the game? their was 0.4 seconds left in the game..lol!! All he had to do was catch the ball and hold it. He shot it with the FULL intention of covering the spread. No question about that.
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                    • Casperwaits
                      SBR Hall of Famer
                      • 08-25-06
                      • 5042

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Giroux
                      If he decided not to shoot would it have been a fix for the under?
                      No, because when down by 10 and you get an inbounds pass with 0.4 seconds left, you don't take a shot. Just the way it goes.
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                      • Casperwaits
                        SBR Hall of Famer
                        • 08-25-06
                        • 5042

                        #12
                        Originally posted by tcmoody99
                        Wish I woulda bet on that one
                        Let me guess, because you would have had the OVER? Gotcha..lol.
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                        • dabomguy11
                          SBR Wise Guy
                          • 01-28-11
                          • 558

                          #13
                          Lol, and there's someone constantly following you controlling your destiny...
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                          • SprayBoy
                            SBR Sharp
                            • 11-18-10
                            • 390

                            #14
                            It would be literally the most difficult process ever to have the players in on such a huge heist. There's no way that every nba player keeps his mouth shut or doesn't give the gig up at some point. You're clearly on a tilt man, to be honest I don't think the nba players are exactly smart enough to pull off something like that...not that most athletes are dumb or anything...but that would take the work of geniuses to hide such a scam in the most public of forums.
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                            • Casperwaits
                              SBR Hall of Famer
                              • 08-25-06
                              • 5042

                              #15
                              Originally posted by SprayBoy
                              It would be literally the most difficult process ever to have the players in on such a huge heist. There's no way that every nba player keeps his mouth shut or doesn't give the gig up at some point. You're clearly on a tilt man, to be honest I don't think the nba players are exactly smart enough to pull off something like that...not that most athletes are dumb or anything...but that would take the work of geniuses to hide such a scam in the most public of forums.
                              So let me understand this. There have been 3 point shaving scandals in the NCAA in the last 40 years.
                              I have won 5 out of my last 7 games.
                              Don't need 5 players to fix a game. Check free throws.
                              Doesn't take brains to make/miss an uncontested shot.
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                              • Casperwaits
                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                • 08-25-06
                                • 5042

                                #16
                                Originally posted by dabomguy11
                                Lol, and there's someone constantly following you controlling your destiny...
                                It is not just me. Someone tell me when Dougherty admitted to fixing MORE games, the NBA didn't investigate further? Was it because they were afraid of what would be uncovered? Did yo guys ever think that Dougherty is the Canseco of the NBA? speaks the truth, but still a scumbag? You will all see.
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                                • MendozaLine
                                  SBR MVP
                                  • 01-11-10
                                  • 4088

                                  #17
                                  I dont get why people are always so eager to shoot down any questions about point shaving. It is blatantly obvious that there is point shaving in the NBA occasionally.
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                                  • face
                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                    • 01-31-11
                                    • 14740

                                    #18
                                    garbage time more about padding player stats than anything. that's where a lot of bench guys look a little bit better on paper
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                                    • Casperwaits
                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                      • 08-25-06
                                      • 5042

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by face
                                      garbage time more about padding player stats than anything. that's where a lot of bench guys look a little bit better on paper
                                      Foye isn't a garbage time player..lol!!!!
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                                      • Casperwaits
                                        SBR Hall of Famer
                                        • 08-25-06
                                        • 5042

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by MendozaLine
                                        I dont get why people are always so eager to shoot down any questions about point shaving. It is blatantly obvious that there is point shaving in the NBA occasionally.
                                        Mendoza, whomever thinks the NBA is on the up and up doesn't bet the NBA. In fact, if I ever met a sports gambler that thought the NBA wasn't fixed from time to time, I would NEVER trust their opinion. They are the same people that think strippers like them because of their personality and not their money.
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                                        • rem sleep
                                          SBR MVP
                                          • 10-04-10
                                          • 1238

                                          #21
                                          They were losing at home. The home crowd doesn't wanna see him just catch it and hold on. I don't think this was a fix because this happens all the time.
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                                          • Casperwaits
                                            SBR Hall of Famer
                                            • 08-25-06
                                            • 5042

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by rem sleep
                                            They were losing at home. The home crowd doesn't wanna see him just catch it and hold on. I don't think this was a fix because this happens all the time.
                                            Um, no it doesn't.
                                            Second, their was .04 SECONDS left in the game. not 4 seconds.....0.4 seconds!! Do you REALLY think the crowd would have cared if he caught the ball and held it?
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                                            • Smoke
                                              SBR Aristocracy
                                              • 10-09-09
                                              • 48111

                                              #23
                                              Its called gambling, wtf did you expect?
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                                              • NrmlCurvSurfr
                                                SBR MVP
                                                • 04-05-10
                                                • 2896

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by Casperwaits

                                                Um, no it doesn't.
                                                Second, their was .04 SECONDS left in the game. not 4 seconds.....0.4 seconds!! Do you REALLY think the crowd would have cared if he caught the ball and held it?
                                                It would just show a lack of effort, if there is time to take a shot then why not try...of course you are not going to win but it looks better if you at least play until time expires.

                                                ALSO, if it were a fix why would they want to cut it so close with money on the line?
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                                                • frostno98
                                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                                  • 09-11-07
                                                  • 9769

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by Casperwaits
                                                  Let me guess, because you would have had the OVER? Gotcha..lol.
                                                  If it's a makable shot they will take it. I loss a backdoor cover in a Nuggets/Thunder game when the Thunder losing by 17 was going to run out the clock. When Michael Westbrook decided to jack up three as both teams were walking off the court.
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                                                  • Casperwaits
                                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                                    • 08-25-06
                                                    • 5042

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by NrmlCurvSurfr
                                                    It would just show a lack of effort, if there is time to take a shot then why not try...of course you are not going to win but it looks better if you at least play until time expires. ALSO, if it were a fix why would they want to cut it so close with money on the line?
                                                    Interesting question, and here is your answer.
                                                    Games that are fixed are close to the point.
                                                    Look at Donagheys fixed games.
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                                                    • beerman2619
                                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                                      • 12-24-09
                                                      • 7752

                                                      #27
                                                      i couldn't believe it either fixed.
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                                                      • Casperwaits
                                                        SBR Hall of Famer
                                                        • 08-25-06
                                                        • 5042

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by NrmlCurvSurfr
                                                        It would just show a lack of effort, if there is time to take a shot then why not try...of course you are not going to win but it looks better if you at least play until time expires. ALSO, if it were a fix why would they want to cut it so close with money on the line?
                                                        Originally posted by frostno98
                                                        If it's a makable shot they will take it. I loss a backdoor cover in a Nuggets/Thunder game when the Thunder losing by 17 was going to run out the clock. When Michael Westbrook decided to jack up three as both teams were walking off the court.
                                                        THEY will not always take it. On the contrary, they will dribble it out.
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                                                        • MendozaLine
                                                          SBR MVP
                                                          • 01-11-10
                                                          • 4088

                                                          #29
                                                          When you are at the point where it is literally impossible to win, you dont need to show any effort. Why risk an injury to take a pointless shot?
                                                          Originally posted by NrmlCurvSurfr
                                                          It would just show a lack of effort, if there is time to take a shot then why not try...of course you are not going to win but it looks better if you at least play until time expires.

                                                          ALSO, if it were a fix why would they want to cut it so close with money on the line?
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                                                          • NrmlCurvSurfr
                                                            SBR MVP
                                                            • 04-05-10
                                                            • 2896

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by Casperwaits

                                                            THEY will not always take it. On the contrary, they will dribble it out.
                                                            They (whoever is in on the "fix") will most likely not cut it so close, .4sec left? Do you really think all of that was planned? How did the shooter know he would even have time to get another shot off? Don't you think if the total was fixed it would not be so close? The point of a fix is to make sure you win...cutting it close would not be a successful fix in my book.
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                                                            • NrmlCurvSurfr
                                                              SBR MVP
                                                              • 04-05-10
                                                              • 2896

                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by MendozaLine
                                                              When you are at the point where it is literally impossible to win, you dont need to show any effort. Why risk an injury to take a pointless shot?
                                                              This isnt like football when you are at the end of the game kneeling the ball to save players. Its one shot, if a player is risking injury by shooting a basketball he should reconsider professional sports.
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                                                              • Casperwaits
                                                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                • 08-25-06
                                                                • 5042

                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by NrmlCurvSurfr
                                                                They (whoever is in on the "fix") will most likely not cut it so close, .4sec left? Do you really think all of that was planned? How did the shooter know he would even have time to get another shot off? Don't you think if the total was fixed it would not be so close? The point of a fix is to make sure you win...cutting it close would not be a successful fix in my book.
                                                                I like your book.
                                                                Can you pay me on my 197.5 UNDER please?
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                                                                • BigDofBA
                                                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                                                  • 09-30-09
                                                                  • 19311

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Good thing my connections told me Foye would hit a shot with 1 second left and the game would go over.

                                                                  They told me it was going to be fixed this way so I bet the over. You just need to know the right people.
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                                                                  • Legions36
                                                                    SBR MVP
                                                                    • 12-17-10
                                                                    • 3032

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by Casperwaits
                                                                    Um, no it doesn't.
                                                                    Second, their was .04 SECONDS left in the game. not 4 seconds.....0.4 seconds!! Do you REALLY think the crowd would have cared if he caught the ball and held it?
                                                                    God look at what your saying here .04 seconds and someone cant shoot the ball on there home court that has no truth behind it, what if he missed it off the rim, how can u justify this. And why wait until .04 seconds left to cover why not take care of it earlier makes no sense. Did u ever think in sports the books and lines makers are good at what they do, how long have they been doing the line making, they know the games better than anyone else. How bout this is it a fix when the game ends on any line, it happens all the time? I think your just paranoid dude.
                                                                    Your gonna bring up a Scumbag crook ref, well he did tell the feds stories right of this and that but did they do anything except what they caught him for, no whatever he was saying obviously had no truth if the Feds didn't detail anyone else for the garbage he was doing, come on think about it without all these accusations. If the feds find truth to all that u know people are going down, but there was no truth behind the things that loser was saying.
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                                                                    • Casperwaits
                                                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                      • 08-25-06
                                                                      • 5042

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by Legions36
                                                                      God look at what your saying here .04 seconds and someone cant shoot the ball on there home court that has no truth behind it, what if he missed it off the rim, how can u justify this. And why wait until .04 seconds left to cover why not take care of it earlier makes no sense. Did u ever think in sports the books and lines makers are good at what they do, how long have they been doing the line making, they know the games better than anyone else. How bout this is it a fix when the game ends on any line, it happens all the time? I think your just paranoid dude. Your gonna bring up a Scumbag crook ref, well he did tell the feds stories right of this and that but did they do anything except what they caught him for, no whatever he was saying obviously had no truth if the Feds didn't detail anyone else for the garbage he was doing, come on think about it without all these accusations. If the feds find truth to all that u know people are going down, but there was no truth behind the things that loser was saying.
                                                                      Plenty of truth to what he was saying (he even had documentation on Colin Cowherd show)
                                                                      There are MANY games fixed (once again look at NCAA over the years)
                                                                      Live the belief that they dont fix games. That is a narrow belief.
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