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  • JoshW
    SBR MVP
    • 08-10-05
    • 3431

    #1
    5% of Big Games in NCAA are fixed? What do you think?
    Sad Suspicions About Scores in Basketball
    THE downfall of the "Goodfellas" mafiosi started with the Lufthansa job at Kennedy Airport in New York. At the time, it was the largest cash robbery in history. "Lufthansa should have been our ultimate score," Ray Liotta, playing the mobster Henry Hill, said in the movie. Instead, the movie gangsters called attention to themselves with flashy purchases like a hot-pink Cadillac and, as the police closed in, began killing each other.

    But Henry Hill survived, in the movie and in real life. Less than a week after the robbery in December 1978, he was sitting in the Boston Garden watching a basketball game that he had helped fix. He had paid off two Boston College players to beat Harvard by less than the 12-point spread. Boston College won, 86-83, and Mr. Hill won his $15,000 bet.

    This time next week, a few million Americans will be filling out office pool betting sheets for the coming N.C.A.A. tournament, and I don't imagine that many of us will spend much time thinking about the sport's grubby past.

    College basketball is a big business today, and betting on it is not merely a sideline for mobsters. It is a national pastime.

    One thing about the sport, however, has not really changed since Henry Hill's day. Of all the major forms of betting — lotteries, poker, craps, slots, football — college basketball is almost certainly the easiest to fix.

    It is played by young men who don't usually have a lot of money. With just five players on the court, one person can determine the outcome. And the point-spread system, in which bets are based on the margin of victory rather than wins and losses, allows players to fix a game without losing it.

    "There's every reason to think this is as bad as it gets," Justin Wolfers, an economist at the University of Pennsylvania, said.

    Mr. Wolfers, a blond pony-tailed Australian, calls himself part of a new generation of forensic economists — researchers who sift through data to look for patterns of cheating that otherwise go unnoticed. The best-selling book "Freakonomics" by Stephen J. Dubner and Steven D. Levitt is based partly on this kind of work.

    THE showpiece of forensic economics is research done a few years ago that suggested that mutual fund traders were regularly backdating their trades. Wall Street attacked the findings at first. But they stood up to scrutiny, and Eliot Spitzer, New York's attorney general, used them to force reforms on the industry.

    You can probably guess where this is going. Mr. Wolfers has collected the results of nearly every college basketball game over the last 16 years. In a surprisingly large number of them, it turns out that heavy favorites just miss covering the spread. He considered a number of other explanations, but he thinks there is only one that can explain the pattern. Point shaving appears to be occurring in about 5 percent of all games with large spreads.

    Officials at the National Collegiate Athletic Association say they do not believe that the problem is nearly so large. Jay Kornegay, who oversees the betting lines at the Las Vegas Hilton, told me that Mr. Wolfers's conclusions sounded "ludicrous." But I'm not so sure about that.

    When Mr. Wolfers began his research, he started with a question: If there were really a lot of point shaving going on, what sort of tracks would it leave in the data?

    In all likelihood, the cheating would be concentrated among heavily favored teams. Point spreads require gamblers to bet on whether the favored team will win by at least a certain margin. By agreeing to fall short of that, players can fix a game and still not risk losing it.


    "It's the favorites with the big spreads," Kenny White, an influential Las Vegas oddsmaker, said, "that have the biggest advantage to be able to do something."

    Past scandals also suggest that is how it works. When Stevin Smith was fixing games at Arizona State in the 1990's to erase some big gambling debts, he hit some big shots and helped his team win games. But he backed off just a little on defense to make sure his opponents covered the spread.

    "I made myself feel better by always saying that I wasn't making my team lose, just helping myself out of a bad situation," Mr. Smith later wrote in Sports Illustrated.

    This is precisely the pattern Mr. Wolfers believes that he has found. Smaller favorites — teams favored by 12 or fewer points — beat the spread almost exactly 50 percent of the time, showing how good those oddsmakers are at their jobs. But heavy favorites cover in only 47 percent of their games. There is little chance that the difference is due to randomness.

    This is not persuasive by itself, because there are some obvious explanations besides point shaving. Heavy favorites may remove their best players at the end of the game, for instance, or simply slack off, not caring what their winning margin is.

    But here's Mr. Wolfers's smoking gun: this slacking off seems to happen only when a game is decided by something close to the point spread. Heavy favorites actually blow away the spread just as often as everyone else. But they win by barely more than the spread a lot less often than slight favorites do.
    There is a strange dearth of games in which 12-point favorites win by, say, 13 or 16 points. And there are a lot of games that they win by 11 points or slightly less. There is just no good explanation for this.

    "You shouldn't have what's happening on the court reflecting what's happening in Las Vegas," Mr. Wolfers said. "And that's exactly what's happening."

    This isn't proof, to be sure. Forensic economics rarely provides that. But when it fits with other evidence, it can make a pretty compelling case. College basketball has had a point-shaving scandal about once every decade. And in a recent N.C.A.A. poll, 1.5 percent of players admitted knowing of a teammate "who took money for playing poorly."

    So, by all means, the N.C.A.A. and the rest of us should enjoy these next few weeks. But when the tournament is over, the people who run college basketball may want to get in touch with Mr. Wolfers.



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  • Willie Bee
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 02-14-06
    • 15726

    #2
    This isn't proof, to be sure.
    Duh! Just because a team can cover a 12-point spread more often than it can cover a 16-point spread, this guy concludes games are fixed?! Good grief!
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    • JayEgdarWho
      SBR Sharp
      • 02-04-06
      • 328

      #3
      The math seems a little lightweight -- which, sadly, is not unprecedented in the NYT. (Some of the sh*t that their science and medicine writers publish and actually make a splash with is embarassingly shoddy.)

      This fellow's methodology seems more than ripe for our own experts to weigh in on -- and I'm sure they will.
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      • isetcap
        SBR MVP
        • 12-16-05
        • 4006

        #4
        Idiocy.
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        • The Great One
          SBR Wise Guy
          • 02-08-06
          • 792

          #5
          In my opinion, waaaaay more than 5% games are fixed. I don't mind it as long as I'm on the right side of it because I except the fact we live in a cheater world.

          If games weren't fixed, a majoroty of these linesmakers would be on the Forbes 400. I don't know how many times they've correctly hit the line on the head or come within a couple points of it in basketball.

          I've e-mailed different books asking them what their refund policy is on fixed games. They do not beleive games are fixed as if they are going to admit it anyway. I tend to have a short memory with cheater games.



          But, I can tell you one game that was fixed was 2 years ago when St. Joe had Nelson and West and in their first round game, they intentionally did not cover the spread. If you watched this team during the year, they routed less than stellar competition by keeping all of their key players in pretty much throughout the entire game. In this game, they took all of their key players out at around the 9 minute mark in the second half when they were getting close to the number. They missed a hell of a lot more free throws than they ever have before in what was no where near a pressure situation. When St. Joe was up by alot, they would intentionally foul that 16 seed, putting them on the line to hit free throws because that was the only way they could score without looking suspicious on defense.
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          • isetcap
            SBR MVP
            • 12-16-05
            • 4006

            #6
            Originally posted by The Great One
            But, I can tell you one game that was fixed was 2 years ago when St. Joe had Nelson and West and in their first round game, they intentionally did not cover the spread. If you watched this team during the year, they routed less than stellar competition by keeping all of their key players in pretty much throughout the entire game. In this game, they took all of their key players out at around the 9 minute mark in the second half when they were getting close to the number. They missed a hell of a lot more free throws than they ever have before in what was no where near a pressure situation. When St. Joe was up by alot, they would intentionally foul that 16 seed, putting them on the line to hit free throws because that was the only way they could score without looking suspicious on defense.
            Was this intended to be evidence of game fixing?

            Blackjack is fixed. One time I was playing Blackjack at a casino and the dealer got Blackjack 2 times in a row. Fixed, I tell you!
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            • bigboydan
              SBR Aristocracy
              • 08-10-05
              • 55420

              #7
              people focus on the players doing this kind of stuff, but yet forget about the refs.

              think about it, who can control a game better than a crooked ref.

              for example:

              take a look at that spurs/clippers game last night. the ref called some very ticky tack fouls on tim duncan early and often in that game. far be it for me to complain about this one, because i profited from it. although, i'm sure you see what i'm saying.
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              • hanco21
                SBR MVP
                • 01-19-06
                • 3414

                #8
                I personally think that 5% figure is a little low.
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                • The Great One
                  SBR Wise Guy
                  • 02-08-06
                  • 792

                  #9
                  Originally posted by isetcap
                  Was this intended to be evidence of game fixing?

                  Blackjack is fixed. One time I was playing Blackjack at a casino and the dealer got Blackjack 2 times in a row. Fixed, I tell you!

                  Well, I'd say when a team goes completelt against their trend for no apparent reason something is up. Throughout the year, they'd play teams like Fordam and Duquesne. Teams that completely sucked and their point was to just blow them out without letting up. I'm talking victories over 35 points and keeping starters in the whole way to make a point.

                  It wasn't that they took those guys out so early as I realize once you are in the tourney and seeded, a 1 point victory is jst as meaningful as a 35 point victory. It's the way the game progressed after the starters we're removed.

                  It doesn't matter now, but to say that games are not fived is just being naive. Didn't the "QB" from FSU, Adrian McPhereson admit to shaving points and then gotm kicked out of the university. College games are easier to fix because most of the time, the athletes are relatively poor and they are very easy to reach on campus.

                  Not to mention, some of these athletic departments get in such bad financial shape, it just takes a couple wagers to get out of it. Bottom line is I can't prove games are fixed,but alot of people are greedy and America is a vety crooked country to begin with.

                  I've explored the idea before. By doing a 12 team parlay in basketball, go to 12 different players on 12 different teams, offer them each 40K to do something on 1 freakin game, that still leaves the bettor with about $720,000 profit if he pays 12 players 40K each.

                  DISCLAIMER: I have never done this and do not condone game fixing as it is wrong, unethical, and illeagal.
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                  • rm18
                    SBR Posting Legend
                    • 09-20-05
                    • 22291

                    #10
                    Originally posted by The Great One
                    Well, I'd say when a team goes completelt against their trend for no apparent reason something is up. Throughout the year, they'd play teams like Fordam and Duquesne. Teams that completely sucked and their point was to just blow them out without letting up. I'm talking victories over 35 points and keeping starters in the whole way to make a point.

                    It wasn't that they took those guys out so early as I realize once you are in the tourney and seeded, a 1 point victory is jst as meaningful as a 35 point victory. It's the way the game progressed after the starters we're removed.

                    It doesn't matter now, but to say that games are not fived is just being naive. Didn't the "QB" from FSU, Adrian McPhereson admit to shaving points and then gotm kicked out of the university. College games are easier to fix because most of the time, the athletes are relatively poor and they are very easy to reach on campus.

                    Not to mention, some of these athletic departments get in such bad financial shape, it just takes a couple wagers to get out of it. Bottom line is I can't prove games are fixed,but alot of people are greedy and America is a vety crooked country to begin with.

                    I've explored the idea before. By doing a 12 team parlay in basketball, go to 12 different players on 12 different teams, offer them each 40K to do something on 1 freakin game, that still leaves the bettor with about $720,000 profit if he pays 12 players 40K each.

                    DISCLAIMER: I have never done this and do not condone game fixing as it is wrong, unethical, and illeagal.



                    Your an idiot there are plenty of fixes that lose
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                    • pags11
                      SBR Posting Legend
                      • 08-18-05
                      • 12264

                      #11
                      I believe some of what this guy writes is true...which is why I never bet big favs...I bet on some ASU games years ago that were fixed...sucked...
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                      • JoshW
                        SBR MVP
                        • 08-10-05
                        • 3431

                        #12
                        Just dawned on me who Justin Wolfers is. He used to be a Stanford economics professor that taught one of the more comprehenisve classes on the econmics of sports gambling. I corresponded with him via email a couple years ago, and when I couldn't find it on my own for purchase anywhere, he was nice enough to send me a PDF of Roxy's book on linemaking.

                        He certainly had a pretty good understanding of sports betting. I don't know that their is any truth to his study, but I am giving it another look based on that. Can find the complete study here: http://bpp.wharton.upenn.edu/jwolfer...intShaving.pdf
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