Counterfeiting Money: Guidance Needed.

[Extra Innings]

EI, you could try this..

MERRIMACK, N.H. -- A Massachusetts man has been charged with stealing nearly $30,000 from a dozen Home Depot stores.Police said William Brown, of Dracut, Mass., was arrested after a yearlong investigation. Officials said Brown would place an expensive item in his cart and then put the bar code for a cheaper item over the real code.Merrimack police released surveillance video of what they said was Brown at a Merrimack Home Depot on Feb. 20."In this case, it was a 4-inch sump pump, and he would use a 4-inch pipe, and those words would appear on the cashier's screen," said Detective Scott Park.Police said Brown was able to get items worth hundreds of dollars and pay $10 or less. He would then return the items to other Home Depot stores and receive gift cards in return, police said. The cards would then be sold for pennies on the dollar.Brown was accused of carrying out the scam at stores in New Hampshire and Massachusetts. Police charged him with four counts of felony theft by deception and three misdemeanor counts of theft by deception.Brown was ordered held on $20,000 cash or surety, and police said he could face more charges. They said they also expect to make another arrest in the case.

I am familiar with this

[Brock Landers]

let me know how this works out!

http://www.wonderhowto.com/how-to-print-counterfeit-money-1462/

[Extra Innings]

Thanks Brock. I knew I could count of you

[pico]

why don't you counter feit quarters.

[Extra Innings]

why don't you counter feit quarters.

Possible (thought about it)....big initial investment with the press and castings.

Casino chips would be +EV

[minet123]

Easier to get someone on the inside at the Bureau of Engraving and Printing in DC on 14th street or the mint in Philadelphia at Independence Mall
You be surprised the amount of Junkies who work there and need the money

[Lazy-Man]

Can you say jail time?

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[tickingclock1]

The ones they can name are Hamilton, Jackson, Grant, Franklin and Obama (on the $3 bill).

odd.... I didnt know hamilton and obama were presidents.

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odd.... I didnt know hamilton and obama were presidents.

[Doug]

odd.... I didnt know hamilton and obama were presidents.

Franklin wasn't President either !

I guess a lot of Americans can't name 5 Presidents ? This country is doomed.

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Franklin

Without him we wouldn't have the animated icon

[tickingclock1]

Franklin wasn't President either !

I guess a lot of Americans can't name 5 Presidents ? This country is doomed.

I know Doug.

Just trying to get a laugh.

Sad world we live in. People thinking Franklin and Hamilton were presidents.

[The Madcap]

You done this before?

I admit nothing.

[ZetaPsi808]

sharp thread innings.

[jjgold]

Calling Feds today

Extra Inning unless you offer me a deal

[wtf]

Calling Feds today

Extra Inning unless you offer me a deal

we got the felony DAILY DOUBLE !!

ei with counterfeiting

not to be outdone, jj now with blackmail !

[HotStreak]

The penalties for counterfeiting aren't worth it unless you've got the connections and bankroll to go high end and move serious paper. Small time "funny money" as they call it, is the quickest way to land your ass in prison, as doctored bills are a dead give away to the banks. If more than one bank or two starts reporting it, local law enforcement will alert the Feds and they will roll in and bust your ass.

The only way to do it successfully without getting caught is to use only $10 dollar bills, rolling around hitting stores with $1-$2 dollar items and getting your change back, and doing it ALL IN ONE DAY. That's the key. You've got to get rid of your load all at once. Once the first official alert goes out from a bank or local law enforcement you're ******.

So basically the amount of money you can make is limited to how many stores you can hit in a stretch of 4-5 hours in the outlying towns from your own. Realistically, depending on how efficiently you map out the stores, how long the lines are, and how cheap the goods you're buying are, about all the clean cash you could walk with is around $500.00, and do you really want to risk time in a federal pen for a measly few bills?

Seems like a plan until you factor in that most stores have security cameras. How hard is it to look at the tapes in a local area from a couple dozen stores, and see the same guy coming in and buying a pack of gum over and over again. Better ways to make bigger money with equal jail time.

Try kidnapping or home invasions.

Or just stick to returning bottles and cans you fish from the neighborhood trash.

[Wiggums5]

This is probably the stupidest place to post this.

[StraitShooter]

Funny thread though. Beavis and ButtHead was hilarious. Never watched em much cause couldny stomach the music in between

[thezbar]

I've been to two classes on how to detect counterfeit bills because there were required by my employers. One class had actually samples of bad bills. Some of the work was very good, some were cut and paste job that were bad. The most common fakes are bleached fives that are printed into hundreds. The first detection sign is the course paper. Bleaching will alter the feel of the bill. The bill will still pass the pen test but the water coloring is a different story. Any trained clerk will know to check for the backdrop of Ben Franklin if the bill feels funny, or is discolored. Once Mr. Lincoln is spotted you're a dead duck.

[doublej95]

Possible (thought about it)....big initial investment with the press and castings.

Casino chips would be +EV

my neighbor has a business that makes clay poker chips and he does the graphic design maybe you should give him a call. couldn't be that hard to make some casino chip's with the right equipment.

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I've been to two classes on how to detect counterfeit bills because there were required by my employers. One class had actually samples of bad bills. Some of the work was very good, some were cut and paste job that were bad. The most common fakes are bleached fives that are printed into hundreds. The first detection sign is the course paper. Bleaching will alter the feel of the bill. The bill will still pass the pen test but the water coloring is a different story. Any trained clerk will know to check for the backdrop of Ben Franklin if the bill feels funny, or is discolored. Once Mr. Lincoln is spotted you're a dead duck.

I would do $10's and 20's. Possibly only use them when buying drugs and weapons.

[Brock Landers]

great thread

[VegasRandy]

my neighbor has a business that makes clay poker chips and he does the graphic design maybe you should give him a call. couldn't be that hard to make some casino chip's with the right equipment.

Metal casino chips are one of the most difficult items to counterfeit because the casino chips are not made out of one type of metal. It's an actual secret metal recipe made out of 5 or 6 types of metal. You would have to have a background in chemisty to figure out the type of metal and % of each type of metal in the chip. If you get the recipe wrong the slot machines will reject the chips.

If you're a high risk person you should consider ripping off drug dealers. They have a lot of cash and they will not go to the cops. Watch them and figure out when they are vulnerable, like taking a piss or something. Can't go for your gun when you're holding your dick.

[Killer_Demo]

if your not prepared to do 10-20 years i would advise against it....thats a long time to sit and rot away

[wtf]

Funny thread though. Beavis and ButtHead was hilarious. Never watched em much cause couldny stomach the music in between

it is interesting you say that, cause I always thought that was the funniest part was the music, and their reaction , ESPECIALLY the look of horror on their face if they played a micheal jackson song

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Metal casino chips are one of the most difficult items to counterfeit because the casino chips are not made out of one type of metal. It's an actual secret metal recipe made out of 5 or 6 types of metal. You would have to have a background in chemisty to figure out the type of metal and % of each type of metal in the chip. If you get the recipe wrong the slot machines will reject the chips.
If you're a high risk person you should consider ripping off drug dealers. They have a lot of cash and they will not go to the cops. Watch them and figure out when they are vulnerable, like taking a piss or something. Can't go for your gun when you're holding your dick.

Saw that episode on The History Channel

Louis “The Coin” Colavecchio
In the late 90s law enforcement agencies from various states, the FBI, Secret Service, and others, descended upon the home of Louis Colavecchio. There, and at his orthotics business, they found thousands of manufactured slot tokens from dozens of casinos throughout North America.

What sets Colavecchio apart from other counterfeiters is that he was able to duplicate just about anything made out of precious metals or stones. The slot coins found weren’t just counterfeits, they were precisely the same as the real things in every way; they essentially WERE the same thing.

In order to pull this off, “The Coin” needed some seriously specialized equipment. These hard-to-obtain things included: precious metals such as copper, nickel, and zinc, laser-cutting tools to cut, shape, and create dies to stamp out the coins, and a 150-ton press from Italy.

He was so good, that when coins were brought by officials to one of the casinos Colavecchio had hit, security experts there did not even believe they were counterfeit. He was able to decimate casinos in Las Vegas before law enforcement had any perception of his crimes. They finally became aware when large surpluses of coins showed up on casinos’ inventory in other parts of the continent and Colavecchio was suspiciously cashing in large sums of coins.

It took weeks to sort out just how much “The Coin” stole from the dozens of casinos he had made coins for. It was impossible to ascertain a definite amount since those in Las Vegas refused to even acknowledge that they had been cheated. Estimates range from $100,000 to $500,000, and it was clear he had no intentions to slow down. The government had to rent two storage facilities just to store all of the loot they found in Colavecchio’s possession.

A plea deal was reached when he promised to show law enforcement exactly how his operation had worked in order to help in the prevention of future, similar assaults on casinos.

[VegasRandy]

Saw that episode on The History Channel

Louis “The Coin” Colavecchio

In the late 90s law enforcement agencies from various states, the FBI, Secret Service, and others, descended upon the home of Louis Colavecchio. There, and at his orthotics business, they found thousands of manufactured slot tokens from dozens of casinos throughout North America.

What sets Colavecchio apart from other counterfeiters is that he was able to duplicate just about anything made out of precious metals or stones. The slot coins found weren’t just counterfeits, they were precisely the same as the real things in every way; they essentially WERE the same thing.

In order to pull this off, “The Coin” needed some seriously specialized equipment. These hard-to-obtain things included: precious metals such as copper, nickel, and zinc, laser-cutting tools to cut, shape, and create dies to stamp out the coins, and a 150-ton press from Italy.

He was so good, that when coins were brought by officials to one of the casinos Colavecchio had hit, security experts there did not even believe they were counterfeit. He was able to decimate casinos in Las Vegas before law enforcement had any perception of his crimes. They finally became aware when large surpluses of coins showed up on casinos’ inventory in other parts of the continent and Colavecchio was suspiciously cashing in large sums of coins.

It took weeks to sort out just how much “The Coin” stole from the dozens of casinos he had made coins for. It was impossible to ascertain a definite amount since those in Las Vegas refused to even acknowledge that they had been cheated. Estimates range from $100,000 to $500,000, and it was clear he had no intentions to slow down. The government had to rent two storage facilities just to store all of the loot they found in Colavecchio’s possession.

A plea deal was reached when he promised to show law enforcement exactly how his operation had worked in order to help in the prevention of future, similar assaults on casinos.

That was a great show and that guy is really smart. If I remember correclty, he invested 50K in the equipment to pull it off.

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That was a great show and that guy is really smart. If I remember correclty, he invested 50K in the equipment to pull it off.

And he is at it again....do a little search...he ran into legal problems in 2006 I believe....what a goof ball

Louis B. Colavecchio (January 1, 1942 –) is an American casino fraudster and counterfeiter known as "The Coin". While residing in Rhode Island, Colavecchio defrauded several Atlantic City and Connecticut casinos until his arrest and initial conviction in 1998. He had led a gang which fabricated numerous slot machine coins using rubber moulds of the originals, and was revealed when casinos began to notice a surplus of coins on their gaming floors. Sentenced to seven years, Colavecchio was released in 2006. He was re-arrested by the FBI only a few months later having resumed his activities, and release on a $25,000 surety bond.[1] His counterfeiting equipment was auctioned off following his arrest,[2] and crimes were the subject of a documentary series Breaking Vegas from The History Channel, where he was portrayed by Angelo Fierro.

[The Madcap]

Seems like a plan until you factor in that most stores have security cameras. How hard is it to look at the tapes in a local area from a couple dozen stores, and see the same guy coming in and buying a pack of gum over and over again. Better ways to make bigger money with equal jail time.

Try kidnapping or home invasions.

Or just stick to returning bottles and cans you fish from the neighborhood trash.

You're the second person that's brought this up. Since when in the hell did security cameras become so threatening?

I'll reference you to post #21:

Cameras should be the least of one's worries. If one ain't got the mind to disguise himself well enough to avoid being specifically distinguished by a security camera he's got no business engaging in criminal activity.

Wear a hat, big sunglasses, and keep your head down. Then you toss all the clothes you were wearing. Winter is the best time to do it. That way you don't look suspicious in a big coat and wearing gloves. I'd suggest hitting the Goodwill and buying one of those ugly ass NBA STARTER jackets from the mid 90's. You could probably find one for three bucks. Even the homeless consider themselves more stylish than that these days.

[jjgold]

Easier to get someone on the inside at the Bureau of Engraving and Printing in DC on 14th street or the mint in Philadelphia at Independence Mall
You be surprised the amount of Junkies who work there and need the money

kid has answers for everything no matter what par of world it is

[Borat38]

If someone here does produce the fake bills, PM me. I need to pay my bookie.