has anyone lost a runLine on a walkOff ground rule double?

[compaqDikk]

is this possible with a runner on 2nd and 3rd? how unfukkin lucky would you have to be?

[pokernut9999]

Thats nothing, few years ago Mets had a walk off grand slam in the playoffs and all the runs did not count. Game went under instead off over. Worst bad beat of all time.

[chano]

Robin Ventura

[mofome]

. Worst bad beat of all time.

not even close to worse than a guy scoring on his own goal on a diving header with 15 seconds left.

[chano]

If I remember correctly, The runs did not count because Robin Ventura did not cross home plate. Anyone remember this more clearer. Please refresh my memory

[pokernut9999]

He never made it to 2nd base as he was mobbed by everyone.

[pokernut9999]

not even close to worse than a guy scoring on his own goal on a diving header with 15 seconds left.

Last second scores happen a lot , you will never see a grand slam that wasn't a grand slam.

[pico]

Thats nothing, few years ago Mets had a walk off grand slam in the playoffs and all the runs did not count. Game went under instead off over. Worst bad beat of all time.

you sure? i think it counts as 4 runs if it is a grand slam. i remember last season yankees game where a-rod hits a 2 out grand slam to win the game...all the runs counted. (April 20 or 21st 2007 Igawa pitching)

[pico]

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/boxscore?gameId=270407110

correction april 7th 2007

[LT Profits]

is this possible with a runner on 2nd and 3rd? how unfukkin lucky would you have to be?

Impossible. In that circumstance, the "ground rule double" would be credited as a single and only one run would count. The ONLY time the extra runs count on a game-winning hit is on a home run.

[LT Profits]

you sure? i think it counts as 4 runs if it is a grand slam. i remember last season yankees game where a-rod hits a 2 out grand slam to win the game...all the runs counted. (April 20 or 21st 2007 Igawa pitching)

It WOULD have been a grand slam if Ventura had actually touched all bases, but he was mobbed between first and second and did not trot on. Thus only credited with a single, so only one run counted.

[mofome]

Last second scores happen a lot , you will never see a grand slam that wasn't a grand slam.

last second diving headers into your own goal with 15 seconds left?

[LT Profits]

mofone, I have seen NHL playoff overtime winners where guys have put the puck in their own net. Ventura's "walk off single" just may be the toughest beat of all time for Over and Run Line bettors.

[pokernut9999]

last second diving headers into your own goal with 15 seconds left?

Name me one other time a guy hits a ball out of the park with the bases loaded and only one run counts.

[compaqDikk]

Impossible. In that circumstance, the "ground rule double" would be credited as a single and only one run would count. The ONLY time the extra runs count on a game-winning hit is on a home run.

thanks for the info, i should have looked at my handbook. the odds of a walkoff ground rule double with dudes on 2nd and 3rd must be a million to 1

[pico]

It WOULD have been a grand slam if Ventura had actually touched all bases, but he was mobbed between first and second and did not trot on. Thus only credited with a single, so only one run counted.

wow, that is really a bad beat.

kind reminds me of the play where cal has to run through stanford marching band for the TD.

[pokernut9999]

mofone, I have seen NHL playoff overtime winners where guys have put the puck in their own net. Ventura's "walk off single" just may be the toughest beat of all time for Over and Run Line bettors.

Thank you LT

[pico]

also there is one instance in the last century baseball where the game winning run never counted because the runner ran into the club house to avoid the mob...i for which team was it...think it was the giants...they had to replay that game at the end of the season because both team tied for the division, and they lost the tie breaking game...so if the runner ran home instead of the club house, then they would've won the divison.

[pico]

grand slam single

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grand_Slam_Single

[LT Profits]

also there is one instance in the last century baseball where the game winning run never counted because the runner ran into the club house to avoid the mob...i for which team was it...think it was the giants...they had to replay that game at the end of the season because both team tied for the division, and they lost the tie breaking game...so if the runner ran home instead of the club house, then they would've won the divison.

Yes, but actually the runner on third did "score". The circumstance was that either the batter never ran to first or the runner on first never ran to second. I believe there was two out, so in either case, the force was in effect that would have nullified the winning run even though he crossed home first.