Did the St. John's player step out of bounds before final lay up?

**manny24** · 02-19-11, 02:38 PM

didn't see it...off topic but paver any idea how long suspensions last?...have had no pm's for like 2 months...have emailed lou and he will not answer me...any idea here boss?

**ttwarrior1** · 02-19-11, 02:39 PM

im sure it will be replayed, but at home and if close,they wont call it, probaly couldnt even tell with so many in the way

**Landscaper** · 02-19-11, 02:40 PM

No he was in

**Louisvillekid1** · 02-19-11, 02:49 PM

hardy is legit candidate for big east player of year... Couldn't believe dude stayed in there...

**daimoshokage** · 02-19-11, 02:57 PM

video

**nosniboR11** · 02-19-11, 03:03 PM

not sure

**valaub04** · 02-19-11, 03:06 PM

if that game had been a sweet 16 or elite 8 contest it would have been remembered for years. hell of a game.

**Wiggums5** · 02-19-11, 03:19 PM

doubt it, the ref right in front of him was staring at the line the whole time

**Chandler** · 02-19-11, 03:23 PM

the espn feed was filmed from about half-court and about 100 feet up

maybe pavy had a better angle or perspective than the ref that was 6 feet away from the play

**TRone** · 02-19-11, 03:24 PM

Great game regardless.

**manny24** · 02-19-11, 03:27 PM

Originally posted by Chandler

the espn feed was filmed from about half-court and about 100 feet up

maybe pavy had a better angle or perspective than the ref that was 6 feet away from the play

the refs always have the bettor angle boss.

**jagaf22** · 02-19-11, 03:31 PM

I was wondering the same thing when I saw it live. None of the replays showed it very well either.

**jjgold** · 02-19-11, 03:46 PM

Paver I hope you did not start this thread because you had Pitt on ML???

**Chandler** · 02-19-11, 03:50 PM

JJ had them on the ML

too bad he didn't realize that "every game is different"

**pavyracer** · 02-19-11, 03:59 PM

They had an angle from above the rim. I saw his white shoe step on the line. Don't have video.

**Chandler** · 02-19-11, 04:18 PM

waaa waaa

**nyed1010** · 02-19-11, 04:21 PM

turned that shit off right after the bucket, did they even show a replay? I do recall one of the commentators mentioning he may have been out of bounds, but they didn't seem to plan on reviewing it or anything. Lost a big ML play on Pitt, in hindsight, was a square play, St.Johns is legit and they beat like 3 or 4 ranked teams at home. And Kansas second half just came up big for me, so I'm not too upset anymore, but that would really suck if he did step out of bounds and they didn't even bother to review it. Great game though.

**Jonah** · 02-19-11, 04:26 PM

Oregon State game just now guy could have had a layup ref called him out of bounds

. He was in.

**pavyracer** · 02-19-11, 05:22 PM

**pavyracer** · 02-19-11, 05:24 PM

White out of bounds line and white shoes. You can also see the black shoes of the ref.

**Powderguy** · 02-19-11, 05:26 PM

Yeah he was out, oh well

**dfberger23** · 02-19-11, 05:26 PM

Fuk it, crazy game, can't get every call.

**stevenash** · 02-19-11, 05:26 PM

Originally posted by Louisvillekid1

hardy is legit candidate for big east player of year... Couldn't believe dude stayed in there...

Kemba, eight days a week.

**tkim8404** · 02-19-11, 05:44 PM

That was one of the better games this season. I'm proud to finally be a St. John's Alum.

**Louisvillekid1** · 02-19-11, 05:48 PM

he wasn't out, his heel was elevated...

**pavyracer** · 02-19-11, 06:47 PM

Originally posted by Louisvillekid1

he wasn't out, his heel was elevated...

Try this at home. Take a few steps then make a pivot move and try to jump with your toes without your heel touching the ground and I guarantee you you won't jump more than 2" off the ground.

**southpaw74** · 02-19-11, 07:10 PM

Originally posted by Louisvillekid1

he wasn't out, his heel was elevated...

This

if there is a chance then you can't call it, especially without a floor angle. That top down camera doesn't cut it!

**Louisvillekid1** · 02-19-11, 07:11 PM

try this at home, go on the internet and find the floor camera...

**PaperTrail07** · 02-19-11, 07:17 PM

they dont care...he wasnt going to call anything that last trip down...coulda shot a guy in the head laswt boyscout style and it woulda been a no call

**oiler** · 02-19-11, 07:19 PM

Originally posted by pavyracer

Looks like his pivot foot was on the line right before the layup.

i looked this play 6 times and every time i watched it,he sure looked like he stepped out,cant believe they would miss that

**BrewMaster** · 02-19-11, 07:20 PM

He was out of bounds.. but that's how it goes. Dixon should of thrown the red flag!

**starfire** · 02-19-11, 07:25 PM

Out bounds or not?
I didnt think he was gonna make it

**pavyracer** · 02-19-11, 10:14 PM

He is clearly out of bounds. If Pittsburgh was named Duke, North Carolina or Kansas they would have gotten the call. The clue in the video is the black shoes of the referee which is 2 feet away from the line. Also the shoes are white just like the line but I thought all plays at the end of games are reviewed.

**Chandler** · 02-19-11, 10:43 PM

there is already too much review going on in hoops.

why would they review all plays at the end of the game?

waste of time