Credit Wagering Is Actually Knocking On Doors To Collect Debts

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  • jjgold
    SBR Aristocracy
    • 07-20-05
    • 388179

    #1
    Credit Wagering Is Actually Knocking On Doors To Collect Debts
    These guys are fukkin nuts, I actually confirmed two stories today. They must have agents all over USA or using Bounty's that get a piece.

    Fuk that
  • SBR Lou
    BARRELED IN @ SBR!
    • 08-02-07
    • 37863

    #2
    I have heard about them (collection agency) calling your job, neighbors, family etc.

    I have no problem with them making an effort to collect their debts.
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    • Kellen
      SBR MVP
      • 01-19-08
      • 3484

      #3
      They stopped by my house today but Ive already paid them. They just stopped by to say hello. They hung out for awhile and drank some lemonade.
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      • mofome
        SBR Posting Legend
        • 12-19-07
        • 13003

        #4
        Obviously jj is joking, but i wouldn't care what they did to get their money. Shot takers are not who's side I'd be on. If you cant pay, communicate that and get on a plan. Just be honest and go from whatever point you're at.
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        • Cloak & Dagger
          SBR MVP
          • 11-15-07
          • 4781

          #5
          Originally posted by jjgold
          These guys are fukkin nuts, I actually confirmed two stories today. They must have agents all over USA or using Bounty's that get a piece.

          Fuk that
          yes jj...I have confirmed reports as well

          Ive hired some local gang members around my city to watch my house 24/7

          there is a price on CW's head as we speak...or whoever they send

          it didnt cost much either to put their name on a piece of paper

          they should have stayed civil.....
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          • WestsidePete
            SBR Hall of Famer
            • 07-19-07
            • 8049

            #6
            yea...they stopped by looking for that fish guy...I said wrong state buddy...and they left....
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            • curious
              Restricted User
              • 07-20-07
              • 9093

              #7
              Originally posted by mofome
              Obviously jj is joking, but i wouldn't care what they did to get their money. Shot takers are not who's side I'd be on. If you cant pay, communicate that and get on a plan. Just be honest and go from whatever point you're at.
              Okay, here is a really crazy, whacked out, radical idea. If you cannot afford to lose, then do not bet. I know, I know, I am a wild man. I don't think of it so much in terms of thinking outside the box as trying to line up underneath that little ray of sunlight that is filtering in through the crack in the lid of the box.
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              • Cloak & Dagger
                SBR MVP
                • 11-15-07
                • 4781

                #8
                Originally posted by curious
                Okay, here is a really crazy, whacked out, radical idea. If you cannot afford to lose, then do not bet. I know, I know, I am a wild man. I don't think of it so much in terms of thinking outside the box as trying to line up underneath that little ray of sunlight that is filtering in through the crack in the lid of the box.
                what if you can afford to lose $100.....and you WANT to pay them

                but they dont want to give you ANY information about where to send the money...as in a address??

                maybe people dont feel like sending money to some random name in another country

                hmm?
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                • pokernut9999
                  SBR Posting Legend
                  • 07-25-07
                  • 12757

                  #9
                  Originally posted by crazyl
                  I have heard about them (collection agency) calling your job, neighbors, family etc.

                  I have no problem with them making an effort to collect their debts.
                  And just where do you hear these things ?

                  So if you give me your name and address I can locate your family and employer ?

                  Just simple questions , wondered how this works.
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                  • WestsidePete
                    SBR Hall of Famer
                    • 07-19-07
                    • 8049

                    #10
                    Alert - I'm opening a new business....to protect yourself from credit books...creditbooksecurity.com....I got 20 badass mother f*ckers ready and waiting...guns for hire boys...available 24/7 ...just tell the credit books to come on over to your house...give a date and time...and I've got your back....but I only accept cash as payment....appointments must be made in advance....
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                    • jjgold
                      SBR Aristocracy
                      • 07-20-05
                      • 388179

                      #11
                      MoFo I am not joking, they set this thing up nicely I suppose.

                      The two I know of were friendly visits and they asked for money, one guy had a suite on and the other case that was reported to me was a guy in jeans.

                      No threats
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                      • mofome
                        SBR Posting Legend
                        • 12-19-07
                        • 13003

                        #12
                        Originally posted by curious
                        Okay, here is a really crazy, whacked out, radical idea. If you cannot afford to lose, then do not bet. I know, I know, I am a wild man. I don't think of it so much in terms of thinking outside the box as trying to line up underneath that little ray of sunlight that is filtering in through the crack in the lid of the box.

                        I agree...but thats not the reality we live in; no sense in hoping for something that is not a possibility.
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                        • curious
                          Restricted User
                          • 07-20-07
                          • 9093

                          #13
                          Originally posted by daddyjj420
                          what if you can afford to lose $100.....and you WANT to pay them

                          but they dont want to give you ANY information about where to send the money...as in a address??

                          maybe people dont feel like sending money to some random name in another country

                          hmm?
                          But bettors do that all the time when they post up to certain books using certain money transfer companies. How is this any different? They can't give their address out, they are in the United States.
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                          • Cloak & Dagger
                            SBR MVP
                            • 11-15-07
                            • 4781

                            #14
                            Originally posted by jjgold
                            MoFo I am not joking, they set this thing up nicely I suppose.

                            The two I know of were friendly visits and they asked for money, one guy had a suite on and the other case that was reported to me was a guy in jeans.

                            No threats
                            the confirmed reports I got were men dressed in army fatigue
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                            • mofome
                              SBR Posting Legend
                              • 12-19-07
                              • 13003

                              #15
                              Originally posted by daddyjj420
                              what if you can afford to lose $100.....and you WANT to pay them

                              but they dont want to give you ANY information about where to send the money...as in a address??

                              maybe people dont feel like sending money to some random name in another country

                              hmm?


                              Im certain they have a terms of service policy that you likely agreed to prior to making your first bet with them?
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                              • SBR Lou
                                BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                • 08-02-07
                                • 37863

                                #16
                                Originally posted by pokernut9999
                                And just where do you hear these things ?

                                So if you give me your name and address I can locate your family and employer ?

                                Just simple questions , wondered how this works.
                                They have discussed their business plan with myself and others. Just open live chat and talk to them, they are cool. Once your account is sent to collections, the agency does all that stuff. CW itself isn't lifting a finger to make phone calls.

                                They also mentioned a few scumbags that were actually paid by them, that then turned around and stiffed them. It's not a surprise, what's actually pretty enlightening to what books most go through are all the stiffs and slimy posters coming out of the woodwork here glamorizing stiffing. No wonder most books customer service are assholes.
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                                • Cloak & Dagger
                                  SBR MVP
                                  • 11-15-07
                                  • 4781

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by curious
                                  But bettors do that all the time when they post up to certain books using certain money transfer companies. How is this any different? They can't give their address out, they are in the United States.
                                  and how do you know this sir???

                                  if that were true....then NOBODY would need to pay cause YOU CANT COLLECT ON A GAMBLING DEBT IN THE UNITED STATES

                                  NO CREDIT AGENCY WOULD PUT THAT ON A CREDIT REPORT
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                                  • 5 star bomb
                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                    • 10-12-07
                                    • 5370

                                    #18
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                                    • jjgold
                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                      • 07-20-05
                                      • 388179

                                      #19
                                      Bounties are actually easy to find, plenty of guys that will take 20% if they do not have to travel a lot or if the figure is high they will travel for it.
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                                      • HedgeHog
                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                        • 09-11-07
                                        • 10128

                                        #20
                                        I don't understand the credit accounts. In the US, where betting online is supposedly illegal, how do books collect from deadbeats? Legally they have no recourse.
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                                        • curious
                                          Restricted User
                                          • 07-20-07
                                          • 9093

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by daddyjj420
                                          and how do you know this sir???
                                          I read it in one of JJ's posts and I believe everything JJ says.
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                                          • Cloak & Dagger
                                            SBR MVP
                                            • 11-15-07
                                            • 4781

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by mofome
                                            Im certain they have a terms of service policy that you likely agreed to prior to making your first bet with them?
                                            so everyone that signed up agreed to only pay them using moneygram??

                                            the question is...what % of bonus DID YOU GET to come on SBR and tout CW??

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                                            • curious
                                              Restricted User
                                              • 07-20-07
                                              • 9093

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by jjgold
                                              Bounties are actually easy to find, plenty of guys that will take 20% if they do not have to travel a lot or if the figure is high they will travel for it.
                                              The points are adjusted depending on the amount to be collected. I'll collect for 20 points, less if the amount is high enough. You think I sound crazy on here. Imagine how crazy I could be in person. MUUUWWWAAAHHHHAAAAHHHHHAAAAHHHHAAAAAA
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                                              • JBC77
                                                SBR MVP
                                                • 03-23-07
                                                • 3816

                                                #24
                                                Why not just post up? Seems too easy to bet over your head with credit places. Sad thing is, there are probably guys who have already overextended themselves. Wonder what kind of stories we will be reading a year down the road.

                                                On another note, I just read an article about ex-KGB guys running some of the land based Costa Rican casinos and how the CR government is trying to add regulation. You don't think these guys are aware of the money making potential of the internet? Personally, just don't feel safe sending info to the wild west of offshore gambling. You can't compare it to sending money or info to a book like The Greek or something.
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                                                • pokernut9999
                                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                                  • 07-25-07
                                                  • 12757

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by HedgeHog
                                                  I don't understand the credit accounts. In the US, where betting online is supposedly illegal, how do books collect from deadbeats? Legally they have no recourse.
                                                  Well there have been reports that 4 people have paid them in the past month, so they must be in the hole with the payouts running 10/1 versus settle ups. Maybe Ganch can give us a more accurate answer.
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                                                  • luciano
                                                    SBR Sharp
                                                    • 11-02-07
                                                    • 417

                                                    #26
                                                    JJ tell them I'll be there West PA/East OH collector. I aint going down to West Virginia though, I seen Deliverance
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                                                    • WestsidePete
                                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                                      • 07-19-07
                                                      • 8049

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by HedgeHog
                                                      I don't understand the credit accounts. In the US, where betting online is supposedly illegal, how do books collect from deadbeats? Legally they have no recourse.

                                                      They can't collect in the US...and if you're threatened that's a crime...bounties to collect 20% of up to $1000...how is this worth it??
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                                                      • curious
                                                        Restricted User
                                                        • 07-20-07
                                                        • 9093

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by luciano
                                                        JJ tell them I'll be there West PA/East OH collector. I aint going down to West Virginia though, I seen Deliverance
                                                        Shoot fire sonny jim, those boys in Deliverance were the cultured side of the family.
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                                                        • luciano
                                                          SBR Sharp
                                                          • 11-02-07
                                                          • 417

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by curious
                                                          Shoot fire sonny jim, those boys in Deliverance were the cultured side of the family.
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                                                          • compaqDikk
                                                            SBR Hall of Famer
                                                            • 10-08-05
                                                            • 5699

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by HedgeHog
                                                            I don't understand the credit accounts. In the US, where betting online is supposedly illegal, how do books collect from deadbeats? Legally they have no recourse.
                                                            these guys take the law into their own hands. the rules don't apply to them
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                                                            • zerocage
                                                              SBR Wise Guy
                                                              • 08-29-06
                                                              • 769

                                                              #31
                                                              They should have higher limits, knocking on doors for a few hundred is stupid . Or even a 1,000 bucks . Collection agencies take a bunch on top.
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                                                              • SBR Lou
                                                                BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                                • 08-02-07
                                                                • 37863

                                                                #32
                                                                Another posted shared this....

                                                                "Sam says:
                                                                we have not even turned our first account over to collections
                                                                Sam says:
                                                                where do people come up with this stuff
                                                                bryan says:
                                                                i dont know, weird
                                                                Sam says:
                                                                unreal"
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                                                                • pokernut9999
                                                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                                                  • 07-25-07
                                                                  • 12757

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by crazyl
                                                                  Another posted shared this....

                                                                  "Sam says:
                                                                  we have not even turned our first account over to collections
                                                                  Sam says:
                                                                  where do people come up with this stuff
                                                                  bryan says:
                                                                  i dont know, weird
                                                                  Sam says:
                                                                  unreal"
                                                                  I do think there have been way too many posts ,pro and con that are to hard to believe.

                                                                  I do believe if they would submit to a visit by SBR their credibility would increase.
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                                                                  • jjgold
                                                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                                                    • 07-20-05
                                                                    • 388179

                                                                    #34
                                                                    LA

                                                                    Memphis

                                                                    Now a 3rd location in Detroit

                                                                    All Reps from book collecting

                                                                    Pretty amazing actually
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                                                                    • mofome
                                                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                                                      • 12-19-07
                                                                      • 13003

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by daddyjj420
                                                                      so everyone that signed up agreed to only pay them using moneygram??

                                                                      the question is...what % of bonus DID YOU GET to come on SBR and tout CW??


                                                                      tout? i just made a simple post and now its a 'tout'. funny how the brain washed act.

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