Originally posted by Panic
, too bad they won't ever do it cause of the money it brings in 
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That would be a sweet tourney idea , too bad they won't ever do it cause of the money it brings in
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Why is Poker not a Pro Sport
I will tell you, in professional sports amateurs have ZERO chance to be competitive and win.
In Poker a guy that plays for 1 month can compete with the so called Pros.Comment -
You know any golf hustlers that could compete with alot of the Pro's? I think you do.Originally posted by jjgoldComment -
No amateur can compete with a pro golfer
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Lol. I know hustlers that would rip the hell out of a lot of Pro's.Originally posted by jjgoldComment -
It wouldn't be 90% pros if they lowered the field to 1500 and had qualifiers, b/c there is no diff between pros and avg. internet players, any internet player that luckboxes a tourney instantly "becomes" a pro, you would just further increase the amount of luck you would need to win the tourney, hell Hellmuth wins a tourney every 3 years and he is viewed as the most dominant poker player in history. Look if there weren't such a high percentage of luck in poker the dumbasses wouldn't even enter the World Championship, you don't see Moneymaker and Gold signing up for the World Chess Championship do ya?? The truth is Hellmuth is one of the luckiest players of all time (hell someone had to be lucky and it just happens to be Hellmuth, have you seen how insane he gets when he goes all in with AQ and gets called by 99 and loses, he'll hes BEHIND and blows up like he played the hand like a pro an that the amateur put some incredible bad beat on him). If you ever watch the WSOP you will watch the "best" players getting bounced like a rubber ball by some no name idiot, hell they never survive, I mean are Jamie Gold, Moneymaker, Varkoni, etc. really that much more skilled than the pros that they can dominate them in every single tourney?? I mean shouldn't a "name" pro be able to win ONE world championship in the last 7 years) if they are so skilled and luck doesn't determine the winner. I don't see Tiger saying can you believe that luckbox hits the fukin tree and it bounces off and goes in the hole, I mean he's never played in a golf tournament be4 and he's fukin up on me 10 stroke dammit, he can't even spell golf. Look the fact that Chan, Hellmuth, Brunson have won multiple tourneys is great, I mean there are guys that have beaten much greater odds and won multiple lotteries, but luck is still the determining factor. You BECOME a pro based on your luck level, if you have incredible luck and win the World Championship now you are a pro, if you lost a coinflip the first day you are a fish. Poker sucks, end of story, if you are lottery winner lucky you will win a WPT or World Championship, if not you will have lost 10k and be just another fish.Originally posted by PanicComment -
You know "hustlers" that would beat the hell out of Mickelson and Woods??? Mighty nice of em not to enter the tourneys to become multimillionaires themselves then, I'm sure Tiger appreciates your scumbag degenerate friends staying home and beating Joe Bob 5 handicap out of a 100 bucks instead of "ripping the hell out of him" and winning 100's of millions.Originally posted by PanicComment -
Originally posted by bettilimbroke999
No one is disputing that luck is involved in poker. We have all said there is. But skill is a main part as well. As far as lottery winner lucky, please tell me someone who has won the lottery 11 times in their life.Comment -
Only two Pros in golf? No. They would not beat the top players, they would however be very competitive with the rest. And that was the statement. No amatuer would beat a Pro. ANY PRO.Originally posted by bettilimbroke999Comment -
Originally posted by bettilimbroke999
This will be the last time I post in this thread, getting bored with it. They don't play for 100, pal. You ever think maybe there is other reasons, say, they have been playing almost their entire life, played in college, and the only reason they didn't turn Pro was because of the opportunities that were afforded them after graduation. Like taking over the family business that would net them much more money than golf would(unless you're Tiger, Phil, ect...)? Being the boss, they are still able to play 5-6 times a week? Not everyone turns Pro you know, and once again their are plenty of amatuers out there that can compete will most Golf Pros.Comment -
Panic I appreciate you not posting your idiocy in my threads anymore as it is boring me to read it, as I said before the luck of winning the WSOP with the field today would require a massive amount of luck, equivalent in many respects to winning the lottery. Most of Hellmuth's wins have come in 1000 limit hold em events (which he plays tons of each year at the WSOP) where he got incredibly lucky to beat 300-400 ppl 10 times in his life, I mean that's great that he is the luckiest of all time at poker and I congratulate him on winning at limit poker where there is essentially little if any skill whatsoever. If Chris Moneymaker had great cards for a few tourneys in the last 20 yrs and won them we'd be calling him the greatest of all time, but since he won only won every1 considers him to be an idiot one-hit wonder, if he wins another world championship they'll consider him one of the "best" of all time, having more World Championships than Hellmuth, when he is just an internet luckbox that goes a week with perfect cards and outdraws everytime he's beat. In response to what you said about "all the amateurs that can beat the pros" you are absolutely out of your fukin mind Panic. Do you understand how much pro golf pays nowadays, any clue??? It's more than the 6 bucks/hr you're pullin in at McD's I can tell you that, hell you need to make half a mil a year OR THEY KICK YOU OFF THE TOUR! Not to mention endorsements which are an instant 200-300k for anyone with a PGA Tour card willing to stand in front of a camera for 40 secs and hock some bullshit golf training device/ball/glove/club etc.. Wakeup PAL, as you have no brain and your friends might be able to beat Tiger if he was blindfolded and had one hand tied behind his back but otherwise they need to stick with the family lawn mowing business and let Tiger rake in his next 100 million. There is a guy at my golf course that got 2nd in the US Amateur a few years back, he's an incredible golfer, BUT GUESS WHAT TIGER AND EVERY OTHER PGA TOUR PRO WOULD SCHOOL HIS ASS DAY IN DAY OUT. He would assrape your buddies on the golf course but he can't fire a 64 at Augusta do ya get it? Prolly not but who cares. NO MORE MONKEYS ON THIS THREAD, HUMAN IQ ONLY THREAD! PANIC YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED! BLOCK!Comment -
I think the main thing here is that any Joe Blow could beat the BEST poker players on a lucky day, even though poker is a skill game.
However, there isn't a regular guy out there that could take up golf and then just up and beat Tiger Woods.Comment -
WRONG, the thing here is that Joe Blow DOES beat the "BEST" (in quotes b/c in my opinion best means you dominate the Joe Blows if it is truly a skill based game) poker players ALMOST EVERY SINGLE TOURNAMENT. I mean if Joe Blow snuck out a world championship or WPT tournament or WSOP event every once in awhile I could say well lucky sob I guess it was his lucky day. But when it is 99% Joe Blows winning and 1% won by "name" pros you have to say shit either we have guessed wrong about who the "best" players are or luck is such a determining factor that to be the "best" you really need an incredible amount of luck instead of skill. To be the "best" in poker you need to win a bracelet on avg. every 3 years, that means you enter a ton of pot limit omaha tourneys with a 100 players and luck out and win 1 out of the 30 you entered and you are considered the poker player in the world, when in truth it is just a matter of you getting a hot run of cards and failing to be outdrawn as much as the other players playing the same bullshit cards as you. Chan enters tournaments for 5k that only pay 130k to the winner, hell if you win it just pays for the 25 that you lost at least luckbox Hellmuth enters tournaments that actually had a reasonable payout when he got perfect cards and won. Hellmuth has also entered numerous WPT events and of course being so incredibly skilled has yet to ever win one (maybe his hands were sore in them and he couldn't pick up the cards to look at them since luck is not the deciding factor he should have tons of WPT wins)Originally posted by twtb19Comment -
A few minutes ago flop came 393 turn 6 river 6. I called the all-in with QQ. I guess my opponent was more skilled because he held the kings.
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Zach Johnson, but then he went proOriginally posted by Panic
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