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  • jjgold
    SBR Aristocracy
    • 07-20-05
    • 388208

    #1
    Matchbook Cut Out Credit Players Today
    What does that mean for this book??
  • RealSlimShady
    SBR Hall of Famer
    • 12-24-07
    • 6249

    #2
    Probably much, much lower liquidity........
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    • FourLengthsClear
      SBR MVP
      • 12-29-10
      • 3808

      #3
      Not sure. What proportion of their players play on credit?
      I know they has some problems getting stiffed in the past.

      Matchbook management really are the dumbest bunch I have witnessed in this business. I wrote them a long proposal about 3 years ago (and I know others have made similar proposals) offering to seed all of their markets on the basis of my funds being leveraged (no credit). I got a three line response, essentially saying "thanks, not now maybe later".

      It transpires not only that they were offering credit lines to others but that those others did pretty much nothing to enhance liquidity.
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      • RealSlimShady
        SBR Hall of Famer
        • 12-24-07
        • 6249

        #4
        Wont be surprised if their next move is to pull out of the US market entirely.
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        • jjgold
          SBR Aristocracy
          • 07-20-05
          • 388208

          #5
          Good post 4 Lengths

          It really is going to hurt liquidity there

          They always make wrong decisions
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          • RealSlimShady
            SBR Hall of Famer
            • 12-24-07
            • 6249

            #6
            Well, let's keep an eye out on the NBA games right before gametime. Usually there are offers around $20K on many games an hour or so before tipoff. Even saw $100K+ being offered on Phoenix moneyline vs Sacto yesterday.
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            • MartinBlank
              SBR Hall of Famer
              • 07-20-08
              • 8382

              #7
              Cue Fishhead.
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              • TexansFan
                SBR MVP
                • 09-06-06
                • 3367

                #8
                Originally posted by RealSlimShady
                Wont be surprised if their next move is to pull out of the US market entirely.
                This is what I read somewhere else. Not sure if it's true.
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                • Richkas
                  SBR Posting Legend
                  • 02-03-08
                  • 19396

                  #9
                  I'm glad they did. If you can't beat -110 then you shouldnt be gambling.
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                  • FourLengthsClear
                    SBR MVP
                    • 12-29-10
                    • 3808

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Richkas
                    I'm glad they did. If you can't beat -110 then you shouldnt be gambling.
                    What an idiotic statement.
                    Even if you can beat -110, it is still much better to get -104 or -105, no?
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                    • RealSlimShady
                      SBR Hall of Famer
                      • 12-24-07
                      • 6249

                      #11
                      Liquidity seems really low in the NBA games today. Usually the offers are much larger than what's there at the moment at this time of day.
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                      • ryanjep
                        SBR MVP
                        • 12-09-08
                        • 2556

                        #12
                        this will make it tougher to find volume on matchbook
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                        • jjgold
                          SBR Aristocracy
                          • 07-20-05
                          • 388208

                          #13
                          This place is just about done for usa players
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                          • Bluehorseshoe
                            SBR Posting Legend
                            • 07-13-06
                            • 15058

                            #14
                            Originally posted by jjgold
                            This place is just about done for usa players
                            It would be done for everybody. Liquidity knows no boundaries!
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                            • RealSlimShady
                              SBR Hall of Famer
                              • 12-24-07
                              • 6249

                              #15
                              Liquidity is down a lot today. Usually, you see offers of $10-25K out there in the NBA. Nothing but hundreds to $2K only today....definitely a bad sign.
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                              • boondoggle
                                SBR MVP
                                • 09-29-10
                                • 3014

                                #16
                                I am confused..how is giving degen gamblers credit..a good thing...especially when people in this thread have stated they have been burned.
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                                • playersonly69
                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                  • 01-04-08
                                  • 12827

                                  #17
                                  If matchbook is done, then I need to find 2 new books to replace it. I am using 5dimes, betjamaica, skybook, sportsbook and betphoenix mainly in addition to matchbook. What 2 other books should I use?
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                                  • Nicky Santoro
                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                    • 04-08-08
                                    • 16103

                                    #18
                                    well, i requested a 2500 Moneybookers about 4 hrs ago and it's still not in my acct. usually these guys are quick. i sure hope they're still good. we need matchy..
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                                    • Albert Pujols
                                      SBR MVP
                                      • 06-01-10
                                      • 1670

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by Richkas
                                      I'm glad they did. If you can't beat -110 then you shouldnt be gambling.
                                      Dumbest post ever.
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                                      • Nicky Santoro
                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                        • 04-08-08
                                        • 16103

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by Richkas
                                        I'm glad they did. If you can't beat -110 then you shouldnt be gambling.
                                        richie, what if you CAN beat the -110 to make a 23,000$ profit that year. and if you laid -102 on those same games, instead of making 23,000$, you'd have made 54,000$. what is better? that's exactly why it's important not to lay -110. you always make more at the end, even if you did show a profit laying -110.
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                                        • jjgold
                                          SBR Aristocracy
                                          • 07-20-05
                                          • 388208

                                          #21
                                          Nicky you should be playing at betfair
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                                          • Fishhead
                                            SBR Aristocracy
                                            • 08-11-05
                                            • 40184

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by Albert Pujols
                                            Dumbest post ever.
                                            Entire thread is full of dumb posts........welcome to SBR.
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                                            • Nicky Santoro
                                              SBR Posting Legend
                                              • 04-08-08
                                              • 16103

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by jjgold
                                              Nicky you should be playing at betfair
                                              jj, that's one place i never played at that i've aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaalways wanted to play at. i hear it's amazing and for a guy like me, everyone tells me it will be a dream come true. but i went to their site 2 months ago and i hated it. i didn't understand it. it was all in decimals and complicating. but that wasn't the main reason i ddin't go there. i heard it was steep commissions. the odds are pretty high though that within 2 months, i will be there betting or at least giving it a try. also, i didn't go there because i heard i can never get down the amount i want on a game because it's for the smaller players. is this true??
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                                              • FourLengthsClear
                                                SBR MVP
                                                • 12-29-10
                                                • 3808

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by Nicky Santoro
                                                jj, that's one place i never played at that i've aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaalways wanted to play at. i hear it's amazing and for a guy like me, everyone tells me it will be a dream come true. but i went to their site 2 months ago and i hated it. i didn't understand it. it was all in decimals and complicating. but that wasn't the main reason i ddin't go there. i heard it was steep commissions. the odds are pretty high though that within 2 months, i will be there betting or at least giving it a try. also, i didn't go there because i heard i can never get down the amount i want on a game because it's for the smaller players. is this true??
                                                It is not great for US sports. NHL in particular has poor liquidity.
                                                It is probably equivalent to Matchbook for NFL and NBA games which are on ESPN.

                                                For soccer, tennis etc it is a dream.
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                                                • Nicky Santoro
                                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                                  • 04-08-08
                                                  • 16103

                                                  #25
                                                  thanks 4.. that's what i figured.

                                                  btw, it's killing me tonight seeing matchy this dead.. it's like the end of an era tonight. very sad night. you watching?? ouch, that hurts.. i swear 2 min before post time in the nba, both teams had 21$ available to bet. that's right, 21 small dollars.
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                                                  • obamaismyuncle
                                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                                    • 12-31-08
                                                    • 17801

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by Fishhead
                                                    Entire thread is full of dumb posts........welcome to SBR.
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                                                    • jjgold
                                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                                      • 07-20-05
                                                      • 388208

                                                      #27
                                                      Four Lengths does matchbook average 500k on a nba tv game like Betfair does??

                                                      approx 200k so far usd on Lakers game and only in second qtr

                                                      No matchbbok not even close to this amount
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                                                      • RiverRaid
                                                        SBR MVP
                                                        • 08-19-07
                                                        • 2279

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by Fishhead
                                                        Entire thread is full of dumb posts........welcome to SBR.
                                                        Why don't you post your plays and the number you got them at? After you play them of course, because even at the best number you won't do 55%.
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                                                        • Fishhead
                                                          SBR Aristocracy
                                                          • 08-11-05
                                                          • 40184

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by RiverRaid
                                                          Why don't you post your plays and the number you got them at? After you play them of course, because even at the best number you won't do 55%.

                                                          Just got VANCOUVER at -134.............this is one example for tonight.

                                                          Thank you very much

                                                          RR, in all due respect, because of MB, I make money 28 out of every 30 days.

                                                          If it goes by the wayside, so be it .........there are numerous +EV plays all over the world.....be it sportsbetting, video poker, slots, blackjack, poker, or some other gaming venture.
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                                                          • FourLengthsClear
                                                            SBR MVP
                                                            • 12-29-10
                                                            • 3808

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by jjgold
                                                            Four Lengths does matchbook average 500k on a nba tv game like Betfair does??

                                                            approx 200k so far usd on Lakers game and only in second qtr

                                                            No matchbbok not even close to this amount
                                                            You know what? I can't even argue with you because I don't know.

                                                            Over the last 18 months or so, I have spent progressively less time on Matchbook beacuse it was just becoming so unproductive. These days I really only use Matchy to hedge liabilty on Betfair.
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                                                            • bettilimbroke999
                                                              SBR Posting Legend
                                                              • 02-04-08
                                                              • 13254

                                                              #31
                                                              Matchbook just died
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                                                              • Fishhead
                                                                SBR Aristocracy
                                                                • 08-11-05
                                                                • 40184

                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by bettilimbroke999
                                                                Matchbook just died

                                                                Meanwhile my buddy just got down for $15,000 on four NHL games...........ok, whatever.


                                                                I do realize SBR caters to extreme highrollers, but most are satisfied with getting down 3,000+ on an NHL game at the best number in the world......some are not.
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                                                                • jeffksu
                                                                  SBR Wise Guy
                                                                  • 10-07-09
                                                                  • 604

                                                                  #33
                                                                  this is a funny, funny thread...of course ..take your money and run, run run...
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                                                                  • jjgold
                                                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                                                    • 07-20-05
                                                                    • 388208

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Why did Matchbook cut credit off??
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                                                                    • pokernut9999
                                                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                                                      • 07-25-07
                                                                      • 12757

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by jjgold
                                                                      Why did Matchbook cut credit off??
                                                                      Do you really have to ask that ?
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