SBR Point program changes, changes effective February 15th

[BigDaddy]

you should become a pro or leave.

IMHO

its a gambling forum

i hope SBR starts different levels of pro status as its so easy to join now its really a slap in the face to the real bettors.

[Snowball]

Also Lou or someone should take note several posters who are non pro are complaining they cannot even give out the 2 points that are allowed per day...and also personal contests where non pros reward others with points has now been cut off also...

In my thread I already have a poster/non pro who tried to give me points today and was unable too...

this is what i don't understand. as someone who likes to give away my
points for comments i appreciate, 2 points is just not even worth
giving. I don't bet with one of the sponsored books, and have no reason
to set that up with them, being satisfied and set up elsewhere.

[SBR Lou]

I see the price increases now. Some items might be cheaper for non pros now as a friend of my spend 660 SBR points for the $50 in Betjamaica and now it's 584 SBR points. I know non pros can only get sportsbook cash, free plays, and SBR items but are the prices for pros the same as non pros now?

To clarify, there's only one price now. Non-Pro members may only checkout the items with green categories. All other items may only be purchased by SBR Pro's and those have the 8% increase.

Sportsbook Cash for New Accounts
Extra Sportsbook Signup bonuses
Non-Pro Merchandise

[SBR Lou]

so non pros can only get cash for new accounts or can we get what's listed under sportsbook cash too?

Non Pro's can order sportsbook cash, but they must be creating new accounts with that sportsbook.

Only SBR Pro members may order cash to preexisting accounts.

[SBR Lou]

Also Lou or someone should take note several posters who are non pro are complaining they cannot even give out the 2 points that are allowed per day...and also personal contests where non pros reward others with points has now been cut off also...

In my thread I already have a poster/non pro who tried to give me points today and was unable too...

G's,

There was some confusion yesterday when adding the restrictions. All should be fine now. Non-Pro's can only send two points total, one time per day, to one other poster. SBR Pros can transfer to anyone unlimited.

Most of those complaining haven't taken the time to read the very few and simple requirements in the 1st post of this thread, or even the pop-up message that details why they're capped beyond 2 points. =)

[tblues2005]

Big Daddy maybe that will be the next step is to have different levels. I think there should be a regular pro and a elite pro possibly.

[heleanth]

If you really want to force your forum members to donate to a sportsbook, you should make the viewing of Service plays contingent on becoming a SBR Pro. That would, No. 1: Cause the vast majority of members to look for another site and No. 2: Cause some of the members that are already pros to look for another site.

The fact that you have limited point transfers between non-pros will cause many posters to not bother posting service plays. I know I won't bother.

[rkelly110]

pavyracer:

Do not think so.

A) Why make money for SBR on your losses

B** Why admit to gambling since your IP is vey easy to locate.

C) Plan going into action to nail internet gambling here in the US

These are just a few points I can make. There are more but I can not say at this time......

Exactly my reasoning for not going pro in example A above. I should
affiliate my self, I would probably make more money doing that.

As much as I like SBR, I don't want them getting affiliate money from
my losses. Let's see 99% of gamblers lose. As an affiliate, you get 35%
of losses. Where's the money rake!

To voice my opinion here, I say that sucks for SBR to limit points
on non pro's.

[heleanth]

I took the time to read it and it doesn't make any sense to me. I won't\can't "go pro", so I won't be posting in the Service Play section, I guess. Why would anyone want to read a post from a poor boy that is not a pro. If you are not a pro, you are not an appreciated member here.

[heleanth]

you should become a pro or leave.

IMHO

its a gambling forum

i hope SBR starts different levels of pro status as its so easy to join now its really a slap in the face to the real bettors.

This right here says it all.

[yisman]

no, non-pros should stay.

The attitude of some pros that everyone else should leave is not the attitude of SBR or reasonable posters here.

[SBR Lou]

The fact that you have limited point transfers between non-pros will cause many posters to not bother posting service plays. I know I won't bother.

You can still receive 2 points from an unlimited number of non-pros. =)

Popular threads or good Service Plays content is still rewarded, but there's a cap per transaction for non-pros.

[G's pks]

You can still receive 2 points from an unlimited number of non-pros. =)

Popular threads or good Service Plays content is still rewarded, but there's a cap per transaction for non-pros.

For some of us that take all day coming back and forth with daily threads...5 or 10 points a day will not be worth our time sorry...

I have a popular thread in the service plays area daily that has over a thousand views a day...and across the forums several others do...how does this plan help us or encourage us to continue our threads? Is sbr going to start looking at threads that average a high view rate and as you say reward some members for their time and effort... I already have several members telling me they cannot give because they gave once somewhere else...

[G's pks]

no, non-pros should stay.

The attitude of some pros that everyone else should leave is not the attitude of SBR or reasonable posters here.

Agree but placing all kinds of restrictions will not help...some can not become pros for a reason....

[secretstash]

g's .. i agree the non pros being limited sucks for people being "rewarded" for posting service plays.. BUT there is dozens of other sites with service plays and 95% of that is just copied and pasted here anyway... no other site has a point system quite like ours to begin with so if anything be happy u even make a pt or 2 off every few threads from the non-pros who need service plays.

just a thought

-stash

[G's pks]

g's .. i agree the non pros being limited sucks for people being "rewarded" for posting service plays.. BUT there is dozens of other sites with service plays and 95% of that is just copied and pasted here anyway... no other site has a point system quite like ours to begin with so if anything be happy u even make a pt or 2 off every few threads from the non-pros who need service plays.

just a thought

-stash

Agree to a point...but I for one take a long time putting my thread together... and agree with just about everything you said..but a big difference when I have 6-10 people giving 5 points and now look at my thread today 6-10 giving 2 points.... but I agree it is still a plus I think...

[3PtShooter]

still dont understand why MOST sbr pro's want non pro's to leave site and are so against non pro's ,,some very angry people ,,,i have been here longer than a lot of pro's but elect not to become a pro for personal reasons, but I enjoy (use to) enjoy reading and trying to contribute to the site.

John just put us in a corner and let the pro's piss on us,,

Lou ,,,just hope us non pros can still play the Triple Crown racing contest ,,very nice contest,,I just enjoy competing against some very good handicappers

[gryfyn1]

As much as I like SBR, I don't want them getting affiliate money from
my losses. Let's see 99% of gamblers lose. As an affiliate, you get 35%
of losses. Where's the money rake!

This is easily the stupidest concept i have ever heard ... why exactly do you care who gets the money you lose? Does it matter whether SBR gets it, the guy booking the bet, his hooker or the ******* janitor!

[G's pks]

Non pros should be welcome to the site like anyone else...

[rkelly110]

Let's see moron, I give my hard earned money to a book, they give me bonuses, they
give me winnings. If I lose, THEY get the money, not a welfare grabbing affiliate!
Use your brain for once.

[ThaddeusB]

You can still receive 2 points from an unlimited number of non-pros. =)

Popular threads or good Service Plays content is still rewarded, but there's a cap per transaction for non-pros.

Don't forget to mention that non-pros can also receive any number of points from pros.

[GOIRISH]

The idea that non pros should leave is ridiculous, being a pro or not a pro has nothing to do with whether a person can accurately handicap a game and provide winners for people. It even seems as if half the people who are pros shouldnt be gambling in the first place. and probably took mommy and daddies money to become one, just so pro is under there name and they get extra points. Plus every day a new thread is made talking about so called A+ books ripping them off. If your fine with sending your money out of the country, good for you, however i dont trust it. I wouldnt trust a Jamaican to wash my cars, let alone send them money.

[yisman]

Thadd, are you sure about that?

[ThaddeusB]

Thadd, are you sure about that?

Yes. I have transferred 50 and 16 to non-pros today.

[frostno98]

Not good to be non-pro in 2011.

[Killer_Demo]

Plus every day a new thread is made talking about so called A+ books ripping them off. If your fine with sending your money out of the country, good for you, however i dont trust it. I wouldnt trust a Jamaican to wash my cars, let alone send them money.

do you know which A+ book did this? I want to become pro but I dont wanna get swindled by a book that supposed to be rated A+

[THEGREAT30]

What a bunch of bullshi..

[McBa1n]

Dang, was outta town for over a month taking care of a sick family member and missed the 15th. Oh well, them barreled in shirts are pretty hot.

[GOIRISH]

do you know which A+ book did this? I want to become pro but I dont wanna get swindled by a book that supposed to be rated A+

http://forum.sbrforum.com/sportsbooks-industry/ just look through there, seems as if every other thread is about someone getting the screws put to them

[emoney]

What a bunch of bullshi..

Is that all you know how to say? Do you just copy and paste this over and over again?

[mikejamm]

still dont understand why MOST sbr pro's want non pro's to leave site and are so against non pro's ,,some very angry people ,,,i have been here longer than a lot of pro's but elect not to become a pro for personal reasons, but I enjoy (use to) enjoy reading and trying to contribute to the site. John just put us in a corner and let the pro's piss on us,, Lou ,,,just hope us non pros can still play the Triple Crown racing contest ,,very nice contest,,I just enjoy competing against some very good handicappers

The idea that non pros should leave is ridiculous, being a pro or not a pro has nothing to do with whether a person can accurately handicap a game and provide winners for people. It even seems as if half the people who are pros shouldnt be gambling in the first place. and probably took mommy and daddies money to become one, just so pro is under there name and they get extra points. Plus every day a new thread is made talking about so called A+ books ripping them off. If your fine with sending your money out of the country, good for you, however i dont trust it. I wouldnt trust a Jamaican to wash my cars, let alone send them money.

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Totally agree! SBR could have approached the situation and handed it better, rather than limiting all non pros and restricting store purchases basically down to nothing. They could easily have taken into account how long someone has been here, (seniority) and their contributing post count. Instead they chose to classify all non pros in the same category as the scam artists and ghost accounts on here, rather than do the work and filter out the scum that abuse the point system. Not to difficult to see what's up if you've got ghosts accounts showing up just to log in, make a single post, and then transferring large amounts of points to the same person all the time.

[aceking]

Non pros should be welcome to the site like anyone else...

there could be 7 billion non-pros and 2000 pros .

soon the store prices will be ridiculous .

[secretstash]

do you know which A+ book did this? I want to become pro but I dont wanna get swindled by a book that supposed to be rated A+

The poster who told u this is lying. No A+ book did this.....u want money to be 100% safe ....deposit into Betjamaica. Number 1 in payouts and customer service.

-stash

[SBR_John]

Non's can still get a free shirt or the best new sportsbook account bonus available.

The interesting dynamic is a poster will quickly make back the $200 it costs to turn pro. The only real reason a guy wouldn't jump on being a Pro is he has not decided if he wants to be a regular.

Everyone is welcome and all contributions are appreciated. For those who are loyal enough to support a sponsor we have the best loyalty program around. So fir you guys on the fence take your time. Upgrade when you are ready or just enjoy the site and don't worry about the Pro program. We appreciate everyone.

[lemart5]

How could you hire Shari and not good old Taylor ?