Why are you guys still fkin gambling when you cant win ????

**xyz** · 02-10-11, 02:28 PM

At what odds are you betting at with the 62% win rate in NHL?

**rfr3sh** · 02-10-11, 02:30 PM

rod u are doing something wrong if u are down pal

**VegasInsider** · 02-10-11, 02:31 PM

I'd keep losing just to piss you off...

But I'm not losing...so you can be a hater now

**King Mayan** · 02-10-11, 02:33 PM

Money management is key...

**sickler** · 02-10-11, 02:33 PM

You can win.

Shop around for good numbers, scalp, utilize bonuses, spot value on the opening line (try to gauge which way the line will move ).............

Rod if you're laying lots of chalk 62% won't cut it.

**Rod1010** · 02-10-11, 02:35 PM

not laying any chalk sickler .. i usually play over unders and underdogs in hockey . My problem is i just randomly bet a huge amount 1 day and lose and im fukked

**VegasInsider** · 02-10-11, 02:35 PM

62% and losing money in NHL means exactly what sickler said....lots of chalk. Banging those -180 home favs and getting assfukked by the likes of Islanders, Senators, Oilers, etc..

**VegasInsider** · 02-10-11, 02:35 PM

Totals chalk hurts too

**Rod1010** · 02-10-11, 02:36 PM

Never played anything above -125 in my life . I was even posting plays and went 9-4 on over unders and ML underdogs

**Smoke** · 02-10-11, 02:39 PM

That's why I've been taking bets at my local bar recently, these people lose most of the time yet they keep coming back thinking they'll get out of the hole they dug for themselves. Since I've been taking bets I gamble less than I used too

**obamaismyuncle** · 02-10-11, 02:39 PM

Originally posted by Rod1010

If you told me right now that i coudnt win longterm I would stop right fkin now . Im hitting 62% nhl this year and im still down .
Unfukinreal.

Can you win or not ? Dont fkin bullshit me now . If i cant win then i could care less bout that stupid rush you get while u gamble ... I have a good life and This gambling thing is just dumb if you cant win longterm ... I wanna know why u fukks are still gambling if u cant win ???

I could stop right fkin now .. just give me a good answer

99% lose long term...keep it all in perspective, if you're not a good gambler, keep it cheap.

**Rod1010** · 02-10-11, 02:41 PM

Originally posted by Smoke

That's why I've been taking bets at my local bar recently, these people lose most of the time yet they keep coming back thinking they'll get out of the hole they dug for themselves. Since I've been taking bets I gamble less than I used too

wow man this might actually help me

**ttwarrior1** · 02-10-11, 02:44 PM

he's not old enough to go in a bar

**Hootie Johnson** · 02-10-11, 02:45 PM

Originally posted by Rod1010

not laying any chalk sickler .. i usually play over unders and underdogs in hockey . My problem is i just randomly bet a huge amount 1 day and lose and im fukked

I think you just answered your own question. Hockey, perhaps more than any other sport, if far too random to EVER bet an amount significantly more or less than whatever your normal bet size is.

Just when you think the Habs and Bruins might shut each other out is the time they're going to score 14 goals.

**VegasInsider** · 02-10-11, 02:48 PM

Originally posted by Rod1010

Never played anything above -125 in my life . I was even posting plays and went 9-4 on over unders and ML underdogs

There is no way this can be true. Here is a VERY simple example

100 plays @ -125 juice with a 62-38 record (62%) for $100 each

62 x $100 = $6,200
38 x $125 = $4,750

$6,200 - $4,750 = +$1,450

How can you be losing money if you've never played anything higher than -125 and you're picking 62%??

**Rod1010** · 02-10-11, 02:51 PM

i rarely ay -125 too ... My plays are usually -105 ,-110 and + .. My problem is some days i just bet 1k outta nowhere and lose and im fked...

How can i not do that ?!

**VegasInsider** · 02-10-11, 02:51 PM

This number is assuming every loss was -125 and every winner was -EV

This is a worst case scenario example. If what you're saying is true, you should be up almost 1,500 AT THE WORST

**obamaismyuncle** · 02-10-11, 02:52 PM

Originally posted by Smoke

That's why I've been taking bets at my local bar recently, these people lose most of the time yet they keep coming back thinking they'll get out of the hole they dug for themselves. Since I've been taking bets I gamble less than I used too

lol, I been taking bets from a guy at the local bar since around Thanksgiving time, he's 0-9(all NFL), not kidding. He gives me the money and I bet the other side. He has expressed a lot of interest in betting MLB this year, a couple other guys have also expressed interest in placing bets...doesn't seem to bother any of them to lose.

**Smoke** · 02-10-11, 02:55 PM

Originally posted by Rod1010

wow man this might actually help me

It will help, guaranteed but you gotta have a bankroll to start out with. Lets not forget about avoiding the law. I get paranoid alot since I've been taking book. I try not to do it out in the open alot. Have to be extra careful and only deal with people you trust

**VegasInsider** · 02-10-11, 02:58 PM

Is anyone going to respond as to how these numbers clearly show Rod is BS??

**Rod1010** · 02-10-11, 03:03 PM

Jesus christ . Fine i hit 12% who gives a shit . How can i stop myself from betting Big at any random moment ? I get greedy

**VegasInsider** · 02-10-11, 03:08 PM

Do exactly what I outlined above. If you are really hitting 62% with nothing more than -125 in the NHL, then pick 3-4 games a night and put equal money on each of them. That will come out to about 100 plays...62% and you'll have almost $1,500 profit at the bare minimum. For every game you play better than -125, you'll just be putting more money in your pocket.

**AribaAriba** · 02-10-11, 03:09 PM

HHAHA just ask the the old school people out there, They have lost more than they win in gambling. At the end of the year, day, months, and weeks just remember House would always have the edge..

**stealthyburrito** · 02-10-11, 03:23 PM

two threads on the same subject??

rod, how did that talk with your dad go?

**Rod1010** · 02-10-11, 03:26 PM

Stealthy it went good he fkin tried to torture me that fukk . He told me i should stop gambling cuz nobody ever wins and bla bla bla . I might stop . Its not really an addiction but it was fun capping games and posting here on sbr and making time fly by at work

**stealthyburrito** · 02-10-11, 03:29 PM

torture you?? like waterboarding

see, you made it sound worse the previous night then it really was.

rod call me

**Rod1010** · 02-10-11, 03:32 PM

my dad beat me when i was a kid up until i was 16. Of course i was scared . Thats how i was raised

**30K Millionaire** · 02-10-11, 03:43 PM

Originally posted by Rod1010

i rarely ay -125 too ... My plays are usually -105 ,-110 and + .. My problem is some days i just bet 1k outta nowhere and lose and im fked...

How can i not do that ?!

money-management, self control, and stop betting like a dumb a$$

**No coincidences** · 02-10-11, 04:08 PM

The key, IMHO, is being selective. The fewer bets the better.

I love looking at a fresh set of lines and capping games. As far as winning big long-term, I have serious doubts. Bad beats are everywhere.

**ElCapitan** · 02-10-11, 04:09 PM

Vegas, you're not reading what he's saying. He can be hitting 75% but when you bet $100 on most things and then one day you bet $1000 and lose, you're still not going to be in the black.

His problem is his bet size varies too greatly to allow his winning percentage to mean anything.

**NYER5680** · 02-10-11, 04:48 PM

Rod wager 2 % of your bakroll, few plays and show restraint, you will see a difference. Sportsbetting is like anything else in life the harder you work at it the better you will be Just my 2 cents.

**NYER5680** · 02-10-11, 04:48 PM

bankroll sorry for misprint

**captrobey** · 02-10-11, 05:28 PM

It just sounds like you lose the bigger bets and win when you bet lighter. I have been on both sides of that coin. Normally, once i get ahead, i bet a bigger bet say at $1000- $1500. I could start at $400 which is my normal start at times then work it up to $1500-$2000 using $300 to $500 bets. Then once up i take a shot and bet heavier. If i lose i end up losing most of what i worked up. If i win and get ahead i can make some serious cash. The best i did was start at $300 at cashed out at $10,300 netting $10000. But if you miss the big bet you can easily go 65% and still lose everything.

**opie1988** · 02-10-11, 05:35 PM

Originally posted by Rod1010

my dad beat me when i was a kid up until i was 16. Of course i was scared . Thats how i was raised

Don't be such a pussy.

Obviously he didn't beat you quite enough.

I think a good ol' fashioned beating would be great for you.

Perhaps JJ could give you a good beating with some milkweeds??