Buying SBR points

[nosniboR11]

good 1 john

[Glitch]

Thinking about declaring myself as a foreign national

sbr just keeps giving me reasons to move to canada...

first introducing me to pinnacle and now this.

[chachi]

Well, if it's legally allowed, then why not? That's why I asked for John's opinion of it. Of course if it is allowed, a rule should be implemented that restricts international members from selling to US members at greatly inflated prices. I don't think it should be a way for non-US members to get rich off SBR's sales. Just my opinion though.

Oi pipe down over there ... you're trampling on my soon-to-be-publicized new business model

[mattmc419]

Oi pipe down over there ... you're trampling on my soon-to-be-publicized new business model

Maybe I just want to make sure you don't charge $5000 when I ask you to buy me points lol

[SBR_John]

John,

Just for clarification, would it be possible for a non-US citizen to buy points and 'gift' them to a US citizen? (Pros only of course).

Either way though, nice addition for the international people.

No.

When you purchase SBR Points you will agree not to transfer them to any US citizen. If you are caught transferring you will have your transfer function limited to where SBR would have to approve your transfers. When the laws change we will happily offer the points to everyone.

[chachi]

Maybe I just want to make sure you don't charge $5000 when I ask you to buy me points lol

no not at all, for you I'll make a special price, call it $4750, that'll leave you some spare monies for the requisite post-season counselling you'll need come June

[Resler]

Maybe if the gambling laws change in America we'll be able to buy points someday. Would help if you are close to getting that item in the store.

[chachi]

No. When you purchase SBR Points you will agree not to transfer them to any US citizen. If you are caught transferring you will have your transfer function limited to where SBR would have to approve your transfers. When the laws change we will happily offer the points to everyone.

So if one is a lender and buys say 1,000 points as example, one had better maintain a 1,000 point balance over and above any lending activity to avoid dipping into the red zone, or once one buys points one is prohibited from transferring points to US residents for any reason until the 1k are gone? What if one buys 1,000 points, bets them on a 1/100 tennis shot and wins, since they've been wagered/at risk are they then no longer 'verbotten' points to transfer?

Not trying to be a PITA, I don't see myself as being a points buyer really, but strikes me a lot of clarification/etc is needed beyond your simple statement ...

[mattmc419]

No.

When you purchase SBR Points you will agree not to transfer them to any US citizen. If you are caught transferring you will have your transfer function limited to where SBR would have to approve your transfers. When the laws change we will happily offer the points to everyone.

Darn, odds of the laws ever changing is probably like +50000

[mattmc419]

no not at all, for you I'll make a special price, call it $4750, that'll leave you some spare monies for the requisite post-season counselling you'll need come June

Well, per John's response, I guess I get to put all $5000 toward counseling now

[Smoke]

I was about to say I'm moving to Canada as well but now that I think about it, buying points would be good for only one thing, a better chance at adding sbr trophies. I forgot about the $1000 sportsbook cash limit. So unless ur looking to purchase electronics to sell for cash from the sbrstore, making real money from this would be hard due to the sportsbook cash limit.

[SBR_John]

So if one is a lender and buys say 1,000 points as example, one had better maintain a 1,000 point balance over and above any lending activity to avoid dipping into the red zone, or once one buys points one is prohibited from transferring points to US residents for any reason until the 1k are gone? What if one buys 1,000 points, bets them on a 1/100 tennis shot and wins, since they've been wagered/at risk are they then no longer 'verbotten' points to transfer?

Not trying to be a PITA, I don't see myself as being a points buyer really, but strikes me a lot of clarification/etc is needed beyond your simple statement ...

They will likely be coded like a class b point which you would never notice except when you went to transfer them. So probably what we will eventually do is make the points you buy from the store non transferrable without SBR's consent. We will have this worked out by April 1st but the bottomline is we will make it as impossible as possible for points you buy to be transferred to US citizens.

[Smoke]

One things for sure, sbr will be making a ton of money off non-US citizens. Alot of losing gamblers outside the US. Where will all this money go? The cash for points idea is almost like a loophole for sbr to be a full fledged online sportsbook/casino involving real money.

[chilidog]

I was about to say I'm moving to Canada as well but now that I think about it, buying points would be good for only one thing, a better chance at adding sbr trophies. I forgot about the $1000 sportsbook cash limit. So unless ur looking to purchase electronics to sell for cash from the sbrstore, making real money from this would be hard due to the sportsbook cash limit.

That's true, but what if we could sell our points back to SBR as well? That would be cool.

[frognose20]

The responces from john sound real but the april 1 thing makes it seem like just a big build up for an april fools joke. To bad ill be in basic training when it comes around.

[chachi]

Ok makes perfect sense, but the April Fools angle did come to mind must admit

To clarify, if this isn't a windup that is, as a US citizen albeit one who's lived outside the country for nearly 20 years, am I am banned from buying points?

No book has ever refused me an account or closed me down for 'being a Yank' and I provide passport scan, utility bill and such upfront at account opening so as to avoid any potential delays should I be fortunate enough to make a withdrawal at some point.

You keep using the phrase US citizen whereas everyone else simply has prohibitions against US residents ...

[rm18]

this is real, when you buy stuff from the store it says payment method points, but soon will be other payment methods

[Smoke]

Sbrjohn, could u explain the $1000 Limit for sportsbook cash in the sbrstore. For example, is it annually per sportsbook?

[SBR_John]

LOL its real. April 1st is our internal project due date. Which in the programming world usually means add a couple of weeks.

We have some new content coming out for our UK buddies and allowing them to buy points to play poker is part of the plan.

If you are in the US you will simply not see the points for sale because of our IP geographic system just as now you do not see the ads for the european books.

The positive is there wil be more liquidity in the games like poker and bigger prizes in the contests so you guys can win more and will not need to buy them.

[SBR_John]

Sbrjohn, could u explain the $1000 Limit for sportsbook cash in the sbrstore. For example, is it annually per sportsbook?

Per sportsbook I think. Lou can correct me if I'm wrong.

[chachi]

Good to hear And this bit?

To clarify, if this isn't a windup that is, as a US citizen albeit one who's lived outside the country for nearly 20 years, am I am banned from buying points? You keep using the phrase US citizen whereas everyone else simply has prohibitions against US residents ...

[mighty maron]

another reason my government sucks.....so irked

[Glitch]

Sbrjohn, could u explain the $1000 Limit for sportsbook cash in the sbrstore. For example, is it annually per sportsbook?

per purchase/month....per book....

not that bad.

[king]

We just dont want to endanger our banking relationships or pay lawyers. I'm sorry we will not be able to sell to US citizens but thats just the way it is.

You said US citizens what about if they live in the US but is not a citizen.

[SBR_John]

Good to hear And this bit?

I guess residents or those in the US is more accurate. Like the other gaming companies we will not sell to anyone with a US based IP address. You will not see SBR Points for sell if you have a US based IP. We will follow as best we can the established protocol of companies like Betfair.

[chachi]

geoblocking ...

[monty burns] Excelllllllent [/monty burns]

[Smoke]

That's true, but what if we could sell our points back to SBR as well? That would be cool.

That would be perfect but wouldn't that be illegal for sbr to send you real cash? Kinda defeats the whole purpose of sbrpoints. Might as well make sbr a real cash online sportsbook casino for non-us customers.

[Smoke]

Well at least we Americans don't lose out completely. Bigger prizes and more points available for the taking. That great but our government needs to take action and at least loosen gaming laws or just legalize completely. Too much of our money goes to other countries every single day.

[k13]

+1 for Canada




Too bad we still can't get pizza or gift cards. :\

[chachi]

I'd happily forgo buying points if I could get Papa John's delivered

[blackbeSSt]

I guess residents or those in the US is more accurate. Like the other gaming companies we will not sell to anyone with a US based IP address. You will not see SBR Points for sell if you have a US based IP. We will follow as best we can the established protocol of companies like Betfair.

thats easy peasy to get around. just grab an ip changing program to have a mongolian ip address

[BiePoker]

is this mean we couls be able to buy points also from each other?

[hubie69]

I guess I don't get the point of paying them for points....I thought it was about people wanting to cash out for points....Wierd

[SBR_John]

I guess I don't get the point of paying them for points....I thought it was about people wanting to cash out for points....Wierd

Poker is kind of a game changer. If you like to play and you can buy 500 points for whatever say $40 that is good clean fun. I play a lot and 500 points could last me a week....unless I stop by the casino in that case about 5 minutes.

[chachi]