MORAL DILEMMA - Friend asked me for a $70k overnight loan

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  • big0mar
    SBR MVP
    • 01-09-09
    • 3374

    #1
    MORAL DILEMMA - Friend asked me for a $70k overnight loan
    What do I do?

    If I were to trust anyone, it would be this guy

    Probably my best friend, and when I get married will be my best man

    Only problem is, I don't trust anyone

    Quite the moral dilemma
    [B][B]They key isn't getting rich quick. The key is getting rich slowly, and enjoying it.

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  • Blax0r
    SBR Wise Guy
    • 10-13-10
    • 688

    #2
    I wouldn't; a "best friend" probably wouldn't ask for a 70k overnight loan (assuming that 70k is a large sum of money for you guys).
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    • big0mar
      SBR MVP
      • 01-09-09
      • 3374

      #3
      Originally posted by Blax0r
      I wouldn't; a "best friend" probably wouldn't ask for a 70k overnight loan (assuming that 70k is a large sum of money for you guys).
      He is in real estate. Purchasing a property and needs to close tomorrow.
      [B][B]They key isn't getting rich quick. The key is getting rich slowly, and enjoying it.

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      • Chandler
        Restricted User
        • 01-16-11
        • 705

        #4
        not moral at all

        not a dilemma at all

        but to truly judge if the loan is worth it, you would need to give alot more information. I think you did the right thing, but bringing this "dilemma" to a gambling forum to help you decide.
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        • cankid
          SBR Hall of Famer
          • 08-22-08
          • 7229

          #5
          I would say No and if he pouts about it and acts strange then u know he might be the great friend you think he is
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          • Chandler
            Restricted User
            • 01-16-11
            • 705

            #6
            so he started the purchase, knowing that he would have to getting the closing costs covered by a loan from friends the day before?

            seems like a smart business man. no way this goes wrong
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            • big0mar
              SBR MVP
              • 01-09-09
              • 3374

              #7
              Originally posted by Chandler
              not moral at all

              not a dilemma at all

              but to truly judge if the loan is worth it, you would need to give alot more information. I think you did the right thing, but bringing this "dilemma" to a gambling forum to help you decide.
              The guy makes 7 figures. He certainly has the cash to repay me, its just faster for me to wire him the money. It would take him a couple of days to transfer the funds from wherever he has them.

              The dilemma is that, as a gambler, I'm opposed to trusting anyone.
              [B][B]They key isn't getting rich quick. The key is getting rich slowly, and enjoying it.

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              • big0mar
                SBR MVP
                • 01-09-09
                • 3374

                #8
                Originally posted by Chandler
                so he started the purchase, knowing that he would have to getting the closing costs covered by a loan from friends the day before?

                seems like a smart business man. no way this goes wrong
                The purchase was started this morning. This isn't something he's been thinking about.

                Guy probably owns 10+ properties in the DC area
                [B][B]They key isn't getting rich quick. The key is getting rich slowly, and enjoying it.

                [/B][/B][SIZE=1][URL="http://forum.sbrforum.com/sbr-points/490161-points-available-loan.html#post4633361"][/URL][/SIZE]
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                • Blax0r
                  SBR Wise Guy
                  • 10-13-10
                  • 688

                  #9
                  Originally posted by big0mar
                  He is in real estate. Purchasing a property and needs to close tomorrow.
                  Then it'd be logical and fair that at least 70k worth of that property belongs to you; is it possible that you can make a provision or modification to recognize you as a partial owner?

                  I'd still say no.
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                  • Chandler
                    Restricted User
                    • 01-16-11
                    • 705

                    #10
                    you don't mix friends and money

                    it always seems to backfire.

                    I agree with the above guy. you get that % of the share in the purchase when it comes time to sell.

                    its weird for friends to come to friends for $ like this. seems fishy

                    somtimes people appear to be very wealthy, but are in huge heavy debt and insolvent.

                    also never heard of a sale opening and closing in 24 hrs.

                    what does he have in escrow?
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                    • big0mar
                      SBR MVP
                      • 01-09-09
                      • 3374

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Blax0r

                      Then it'd be logical and fair that at least 70k worth of that property belongs to you; is it possible that you can make a provision or modification to recognize you as a partial owner?

                      I'd still say no.
                      Sure, he would def do that if I asked him. But I would get my money back within by Friday at the latest.
                      [B][B]They key isn't getting rich quick. The key is getting rich slowly, and enjoying it.

                      [/B][/B][SIZE=1][URL="http://forum.sbrforum.com/sbr-points/490161-points-available-loan.html#post4633361"][/URL][/SIZE]
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                      • Housemoney
                        SBR MVP
                        • 09-17-09
                        • 3912

                        #12
                        The last person I would give that kind of money to is someone who is involved in real estate. You can't tell me he hasn't lost his ass in the past 3 years.
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                        • big0mar
                          SBR MVP
                          • 01-09-09
                          • 3374

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Housemoney
                          The last person I would give that kind of money to is someone who is involved in real estate. You can't tell me he hasn't lost his ass in the past 3 years.
                          No

                          Guy has made a killing

                          DC area has been fine

                          He has also started a few companies that have been very innovative
                          [B][B]They key isn't getting rich quick. The key is getting rich slowly, and enjoying it.

                          [/B][/B][SIZE=1][URL="http://forum.sbrforum.com/sbr-points/490161-points-available-loan.html#post4633361"][/URL][/SIZE]
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                          • YorkHunt
                            SBR Hall of Famer
                            • 12-11-10
                            • 7496

                            #14
                            Ask him for collateral. Have a contract drawn up.
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                            • big0mar
                              SBR MVP
                              • 01-09-09
                              • 3374

                              #15
                              Just wired him the $70k

                              Not very happy, I guess this makes me a good person though
                              [B][B]They key isn't getting rich quick. The key is getting rich slowly, and enjoying it.

                              [/B][/B][SIZE=1][URL="http://forum.sbrforum.com/sbr-points/490161-points-available-loan.html#post4633361"][/URL][/SIZE]
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                              • big0mar
                                SBR MVP
                                • 01-09-09
                                • 3374

                                #16
                                Originally posted by YorkHunt
                                Ask him for collateral. Have a contract drawn up.
                                I'm not worried about being stiffed

                                More concerned that I trust this guy
                                [B][B]They key isn't getting rich quick. The key is getting rich slowly, and enjoying it.

                                [/B][/B][SIZE=1][URL="http://forum.sbrforum.com/sbr-points/490161-points-available-loan.html#post4633361"][/URL][/SIZE]
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                                • YorkHunt
                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                  • 12-11-10
                                  • 7496

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by big0mar
                                  Just wired him the $70k

                                  Not very happy, I guess this makes me a good person though
                                  I hope you know alot about this guy.
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                                  • dngf
                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                    • 12-25-08
                                    • 5926

                                    #18
                                    I guess this is more about your trust in others than a business judgement about lending money. Even if you wouldn't miss this if it wasn't repaid, it seems that among friends, friends would understand that for such an amount there would be a note evidencing the transaction, there would be a repayment plan, and a contingent repayment plan including collateral. Best of luck on this.
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