Do casinos in vegas allow you to do the martingale system?

[ttrace35]

good luck on finding a 50/50 bet in a casino

Red or black at the roulette wheel?

[FourLengthsClear]

Red or black at the roulette wheel?

The zero(es) means that it is not 50/50.

[warriorfan707]

Closest thing to a 50/50 bet in the casino would be playing Pai Gow and banking every other hand

That or baccarat I suppose

[ttrace35]

The zero(es) means that it is not 50/50.

Oh. Sorry. I hate roulette. Playing blackjack strictly by the book is 49%, no?

[FourLengthsClear]

Oh. Sorry. I hate roulette. Playing blackjack strictly by the book is 49%, no?

Depends on the house rules (doubling, splitting, dealer stands on soft 17 etc.) but house edge can be as low as 0.7% if you play basic strategy.

[warriorfan707]

You can move the advantage to your favor by counting singledeck

[FourLengthsClear]

You can move the advantage to your favor by counting singledeck

Sure. Not easy to pull off without being detected though.

[warriorfan707]

Sure. Not easy to pull off without being detected though.

I can carry out a conversation, drink alcohol, and still count in my sleep.

The only part thats difficult in avoiding detection is the clear variation of bet sizes. If you can minimize that and only hit them for a moderate amount at a time, can always roll to another casino.

[wiffle]

thread is lulz

[P.F.Kasooff]

I know a legitimate brick/mortar casino with SINGLE 0 roulette and the "la partage" rule! Best deal anywhere for a table game. Betting range for outside bets is 3.00-5000.00

[FourLengthsClear]

I know a legitimate brick/mortar casino with SINGLE 0 roulette and the "la partage" rule! Best deal anywhere for a table game.

The same as all UK casinos

[Domestic]

I like how no one answers the guys question on limits but throw in all kinds of useless other information..

[P.F.Kasooff]

3-6-12-24-48-96-192-384-768-1536-3072 = eleven steps (see post 80)

[Chimneyfish]

Single zero roulette tables still have a nearly 3% edge. They're usually just used to justify high limits. It's like how most places that have single deck blackjack only pay 6 to 5 on BJs. It's because amateurs know the basics like "The zeros are what give the house an edge" or "More decks mean worse odds" but they don't realize the tradeoff for other rules can make them even worse off.

As far as I know, the only bet you can make in a casino that is truly 50/50 is when taking the odds in craps. Even then, only the odds bet itself is even. Considering the slight house edge of the original pass line bet then theoretically taking even 100x odds would give you negative expected value in the long-run.

[Chimneyfish]

I like how no one answers the guys question on limits but throw in all kinds of useless other information..

That was the joke. At least for awhile.

[FourLengthsClear]

Single zero roulette tables still have a nearly 3% edge. They're usually just used to justify high limits. It's like how most places that have single deck blackjack only pay 6 to 5 on BJs. It's because amateurs know the basics like "The zeros are what give the house an edge" or "More decks mean worse odds" but they don't realize the tradeoff for other rules can make them even worse off.

As far as I know, the only bet you can make in a casino that is truly 50/50 is when taking the odds in craps. Even then, only the odds bet itself is even. Considering the slight house edge of the original pass line bet then theoretically taking even 100x odds would give you negative expected value in the long-run.

True but the "La Partage" rule drops the house edge down to 1.35% (half) on "even money" bets.
With this rule you only lose half your stake if it comes up zero.

I would stress that I do not play any casino games, I just have an interest in the numbers.

[Cookie Monster]

Blackjack is the lowest edge game in casino, if played correctly. Some SD games are about 0.3% against correct basic strategy. In the other hand, it is not suited to the martingale, as the bet size and payment vary due to splits, double down and blackjacks.

Besides that, the Baccarat is the lowest edge. The bank bet is under 1%, but the payment is 0.95x, so the martingale series has to be adjusted. Still, I guess it is the best option.

I do not know why some guys think the martingale may work. It just shifts the distribution of wins and losses, but not the advantage. More or less like an inverse parlay: You take 3 teams, if all 3 losses you give 10:1 to the book. Anyone can see that it is a bad deal, so why it is different in a casino?

[Kaabee]

craps is lowest, if you don't include card counting. don't pass plus 100x odds is only .014%

[Jaug]

1)There are no succesful chase systems in the long run unless the individual plays are +EV.
2) If the individual plays are +EV, chasing/martingale is highly inefficient.

/thread

[P.F.Kasooff]

The odds in craps do not change the -EV of the passline bet.

[Kaabee]

The odds in craps do not change the -EV of the passline bet.

no, but it reduces the overall house edge as you can get in a significant percentage of your overall bets at even money.

[dbartinbwgc]

I do this playing WAR at Ballys
And have always left with more then I can with.

[sharpcat]

OP never came back. I wonder how this ended for him?

A) Gamblers Anonymous

OR

B) Suicide

[Scahom1]

I do this playing WAR at Ballys And have always left with more then I can with.

I used to play War to waste time at Foxwoods, and other times just to watch others play. I have seen many people fail using the Martingale system. It's a silly game to play with big money, because you can easily get on a cold streak, and/or face War multiple times in a shoe.

[Fishhead]

[Ibrakadabra]

The simple truth behind every casino system strategy is that you can´t fool probability. Nothing more needs to be said.

[RPP]

Probably doesnt work anyway.

[bettorjon]

When you Martingale you are doing nothing but chasing. If there is one thing I have learned, chasing will make you nothing but broke in the long run.

i completeley disagree. martingling in sports betting does work if you know how.

WOOF! WOOF!

i wont explain further

[vividjohn45]

yeah. on ur initial wager no casino game is 50/50. if you bet dogs at ev. ok. today in the nba. no dog won but two cover the -110 ats.

griz almost bring it home to you, but sa. hit 5 pts. with 2.2 second left. bitch doggin it. grizzzes grease.

[vividjohn45]

even a don't pass bet with 100x odds. is not 50/50 bro. iz very close though. sbr casino only give u a 2x. yeah. so at 100x. its good for ur 5 buck don't pass wager you want the full $500 (100x) that similiar to martingale.) 5 to 500. 5 bux progresses to 500 in eight bets or so. do a granpa martin. and cut ur wage climb to seven.

if ur 100x bet vs a biggie 6 or eight. and roller sevens it out. you a rich guy right there and call it a night. leaving ur martin in the garage. u in that deep. a nice chunk o cash on craps every roll post comeout. gives you 2,3,12, and a 7. only fearing the point.

say that roller. just keeps crapping it. every 3 times. can't hit a seven and forget ur point. christ almighty. o course in the end he must seven it bro. and no bad point.

this advice will definetely win you more then a martingale. or lose it. all just the same.

or martin it.


sort of like that greezsy griz wager at + money. close but not quite.

[tony_come]

When do you quick?

You don't

[tony_come]

*quite

[Sawyer]

If you say you will use martingale system at casino, they will give you a free room/suit upgrade etc. Also, next time you visit vegas, they will take you from airport and you will go to casino/hotel by limo.

[Sawyer]

Limit is not the problem. The problem is Martingale doesn't work in Casino but it works in baseball, lol.

Limit is not a problem, why? Let's say limit is 500$. Bet 500$ and have a friend to bet the other 500$. Voila, you bet 1000$. If you like to bet 2,000 and limit is 500, then you need 4 people. Simple as that..but martingale is a recipe to poor house, don't forget..Casino managers love gamblers who chase their loses..

[vividjohn45]

you stand a better chance to bank. with the way i told you. of course everything has to hit. but there it is big baller.

http://www.lolcraps.com/craps/las-vegas/