Dale Murphy Should be in the HOF. Period.

[babaoriley]

So basically he's been lucky, then? I would agree with that. David Ortiz has made some clutch (read: lucky, timely) hits. That doesn't mean he has some magical clutch hitting ability.

And yet, his perception as a clutch hitter will live on. Sox fans will remember Papi and pass down stories of him heroically coming through in the clutch, helping his team end "the Curse" (which of course, isn't statistically viable, but yet lives as part of baseball lore).

[donjuan]

And yet, his perception as a clutch hitter will live on. Sox fans will remember Papi and pass down stories of him heroically coming through in the clutch, helping his team end "the Curse" (which of course, isn't statistically viable, but yet lives as part of baseball lore).

That's great and all, but it doesn't actually make him a clutch hitter if you are a sentient, rational person.

[babaoriley]

That's great and all, but it doesn't actually make him a clutch hitter if you are a sentient, rational person.

And yet it does make him a clutch hitter if you're a Sox or Yankee fan. I won't remember (nor will I care to remember) Papi's OPS+, but I'll remember that brief period of time when he came to the plate and every Sox fan I knew got a healthy boost of confidence, believing that he would come through when it mattered. And he did, and it made for great "moments".

[donjuan]

And yet it does make him a clutch hitter if you're a Sox or Yankee fan. I won't remember (nor will I care to remember) Papi's OPS+, but I'll remember that brief period of time when he came to the plate and every Sox fan I knew got a healthy boost of confidence, believing that he would come through when it mattered. And he did, and it made for great "moments".

So now that we have established that clutch hitting does not exist in reality, you've shifted the goal posts to "but Red Sox and Yankees fans will have memories". No disagreement there.