Racing Industry doesn't care about the bettors

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  • Foosball Champ
    SBR Wise Guy
    • 10-19-10
    • 995

    #1
    Racing Industry doesn't care about the bettors
    Proof the racing industry disses handicappers
    2010 Eclipse Awards: The wildly popular mare Zenyatta won the final race of her career, outpolling Blame when named Monday night as the 2010 Horse of the Year after finishing second for Horse of the Year the two previous years. VIDEO: See clips of the announcements and acceptance speeches from the Eclipse Awards dinner.


    Nowhere does it mention Handicapper of the Year.

  • INVEGA MAN
    SBR Hall of Famer
    • 01-30-08
    • 6794

    #2
    its been going downhill for a long time now.
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    • EmpireMaker
      SBR Posting Legend
      • 06-18-09
      • 15572

      #3
      thought they gave the award to the big Vegas contest winner every year ???
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      • jjgold
        SBR Aristocracy
        • 07-20-05
        • 388189

        #4
        Horses are basically done

        Most tracks on verge of bankruptcy

        NY City Racing is bankrupt
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        • wtf
          SBR Posting Legend
          • 08-22-08
          • 12983

          #5
          there is something very strange about american racing

          look at ireland, they race for smaller purses but have massive fields, over 20 horses in most races

          something wrong with the economics

          american horses are sought abroad by many racing jurisdictions

          maybe a tax credit for race horse owners, reductions of take outs, allow exchanges

          this industry can thrive, it does elsewhere

          jj does not like racing, it requires too much thought and strategy, he likes flipping a coin
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          • jjgold
            SBR Aristocracy
            • 07-20-05
            • 388189

            #6
            America is a dead Country WTF

            Other Countries are thriving especially with gambling
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            • floridagolfer
              SBR MVP
              • 12-19-08
              • 2757

              #7
              Track executives and state racing boards wrongly assume that larger takeouts mean more money for them. They'll never understand what entices people to push more money through the betting windows.
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              • Foosball Champ
                SBR Wise Guy
                • 10-19-10
                • 995

                #8
                I just think that racing industry in general, undervalue the bettors.
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                • MBENZ
                  SBR Hall of Famer
                  • 01-07-07
                  • 5238

                  #9
                  The internet has helped bury the industry.Most tracks are like ghost towns nowadays because of it.The lost revenue from parking,admission and food/beverage sales hurts the track owners in the long run.Md. racing will be dead in the next couple of years,what a shame.
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                  • Reno Paul
                    SBR MVP
                    • 02-11-10
                    • 1647

                    #10
                    California tracks not doing well either.....The tracks that have casinos seems to do better.
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                    • wtf
                      SBR Posting Legend
                      • 08-22-08
                      • 12983

                      #11
                      Originally posted by MBENZ
                      The internet has helped bury the industry.Most tracks are like ghost towns nowadays because of it.The lost revenue from parking,admission and food/beverage sales hurts the track owners in the long run.Md. racing will be dead in the next couple of years,what a shame.
                      internet has not killed in other racing jurisdictions, over 60k attend race meetings in japan every weekend, of course you can bet on the net there, same in hong kong, singapore , australia

                      imagine this, that the nyra only raced on weekends

                      full fields , every race, nice dividends, better product

                      do they have the balls to do it?
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                      • Reno Paul
                        SBR MVP
                        • 02-11-10
                        • 1647

                        #12
                        Watched Japan racing on TVG.....Japanese racing draws huge crowds.....Something like 100,000.....A big show.
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                        • MBENZ
                          SBR Hall of Famer
                          • 01-07-07
                          • 5238

                          #13
                          Originally posted by wtf
                          internet has not killed in other racing jurisdictions, over 60k attend race meetings in japan every weekend, of course you can bet on the net there, same in hong kong, singapore , australia

                          imagine this, that the nyra only raced on weekends

                          full fields , every race, nice dividends, better product

                          do they have the balls to do it?
                          I'm just going by what I see WTF.Back in the 60's and 70's you couldn't find a place at the rail,now you have basically the whole track to yourself.That is a shitload of $ they are losing.Hope there is a fix because there is no better sport out there in my mind.
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                          • tblues2005
                            SBR Hall of Famer
                            • 07-30-06
                            • 9235

                            #14
                            I do think that the ones that have casinos are doing much better it seems. Look at Gulfstream Park. They actually got smart there and has a ten cent pick six. The handle there is doing better because of that.
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                            • sweethook
                              SBR Posting Legend
                              • 11-21-07
                              • 12667

                              #15
                              fuk nascar i havent been to or watch 5 mins of it sents like 8 or 9 years ago when they stoped racing at darlinton,sc on labor day - fukk nascar and fukk bill france he took the rebel out. and went west and it was the south & north carolina that made him and nascar that sob
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                              • Foosball Champ
                                SBR Wise Guy
                                • 10-19-10
                                • 995

                                #16
                                Yeah the "Racinos" seem to have higher purses than the tracks that are in juridictions that do allow slot machines at their tracks. Although the few times that I have been to a "Racino" in New Mexico mostly old women playing slot or video poker and they view the horse racing as a distraction to their machine.
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                                • gafl
                                  SBR Wise Guy
                                  • 08-07-06
                                  • 656

                                  #17
                                  Small fields, high takeout, too many drug trainers winning over 30%, more competition for the gambling dollar. Great sport which unfortunately has been going downhill for years. In order to have a chance to survive, must change their thinking and use Europe and Japan as guidelines.
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                                  • Dirty Sanchez
                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                    • 03-01-10
                                    • 16031

                                    #18
                                    Racing in New York and California are on life support....the industry is truly in a death spiral. When you watch racing at Santa Anita or Hollywood Park there are 6 horse or less fields, and New York about the same. The NYRA was given a cash infusion so they could race at Aqueduct and the Meadowlands beginning this month. Horse fans want to say the racing industry is fine...but realists will tell you if something isn't done very soon, the sport will only exist in a very few states and landmark tracks such as Hollywood Park, Belmont, Santa Anita, and others will close.
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