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  • RudyRuetigger
    SBR Aristocracy
    • 08-24-10
    • 65084

    #1
    January Advantage Gambling Thread
    Past installments:
    September: http://forum.sbrforum.com/players-ta...alk-style.html
    October: http://forum.sbrforum.com/players-ta...alk-style.html

    This time I want to build it around accurate record keeping.

    There is nothing more important in gambling than having detailed accurate records. Guys go season to season betting, withdrawing some and depositing more. I'd guess 90% of the people here have no fukkin clue what they are up or down in each sport, let alone anything else. How do you know where your edge is or if you have one at all without records?


    1. Betting amount - Should you flat bet or change depending on confidence level. Without a doubt you need to change based on confidence level. You might ask, how do I know when I have a bigger edge? That is what your records are for . Even if you don't want to start off betting this way, you should track your picks on a 1-5 scale and see how each does. If the 5's are winning more, obviously bet them more. If the 1's are below 52%, cut them out altogether. It might not be this simple, you might come to the conclusion your underdogs cover 58% of the time and favs cover 54% of the time. Clearly you have a bigger edge on the dogs so you bet more . You might not always say "the games I feel confident in win more", but over a big enough sample you should find certain sports, type of bets (ML dogs, ML favs, 1h, 1q etc etc etc), angles, or whatever else that win more than others, so use this to your advantage.

    2. # of Bets - Should you wager a small amount of games or alot of games per day? Again, it depends on your records . My guess is, if you need to ask this question the answer is a small amount. The guys that bet many games usually have models, trends, and/or angles that allow them to plug in information and spit out hundreds of games. Again if you are asking this question, my guess is you don't know where your edge ends, so alot of those games you add at the end are actually -EV bets, you just don't know it. Once you can win a small amount of games, then add more and more.

    3. Bankroll/Winrates - Never try to figure how much you want to win/how much you need to win or anything else. Just don't figure anything out. Once you deposit money you should think of sports betting as not using actual money. I use to tilt alot in my younger days thinking how much I was up or down until I started thinking of it as 1 continuous, long, boring chess game. People go crazy losing 6, 7, or even 10 in a row and leads to tilt (I've gone 2-20 and can go 20-2). You can't think like that-- understand 100% isn't possible. If you need some great, high bar to reach, make it 60%. This way when you go on a cold streak and are at 53%, you still aren't that far off and can just keep grinding. Never look at it as money.

    4. Paying for picks - Should you pay for picks? No. It's real simple, most people don't have a fukkin clue and are looking to make a buck off of you since they can't win with their picks. Just like teasers and parlays there are profitable pay handicappers, but the chances of you finding one are so slim when you are just starting, that its better to just learn on your own. The risk of paying them + losing money on their picks is greater than winning money on their picks....and on this note, just avoid free picks from posters on SBR with absurd claims...every once in a while someone will go on a streak but its fairly easy to tell if someone is hot or good.

    Additional comments:
    Quit teasing through 0 in any sport, especially in basketball though
    Never bet 3 team parlays in the SBR Book (don't ask why, figure it out)
    Next one I think will be more like September's
    Nothing new in here, but noone keeps records and you need to because it sets up everything else
  • Ace_of_Spades
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 10-14-09
    • 13518

    #2
    How long did it take to type that?
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    • rm18
      SBR Posting Legend
      • 09-20-05
      • 22291

      #3
      Why no 3 teamers? That is what you get the best odds on.
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      • RudyRuetigger
        SBR Aristocracy
        • 08-24-10
        • 65084

        #4
        Originally posted by Ace_of_Spades
        How long did it take to type that?
        seeing as how i wouldve put each small paragraph in a different thread at sbr that is current but instead included it altogether in 1 post, it took less time to do this than that.
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        • RudyRuetigger
          SBR Aristocracy
          • 08-24-10
          • 65084

          #5
          Originally posted by rm18
          Why no 3 teamers? That is what you get the best odds on.
          i said dont ask why, figure it out

          cannot have much discussion on that because hopefully 1 day within 6 months ill have points again, just putting this out there for current parlay bettors
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          • rm18
            SBR Posting Legend
            • 09-20-05
            • 22291

            #6
            Bookmaker:

            Parlay Wager

            CBB[505] TENNESSEE +3½-110



            CBB[507] COLORADO +4-110



            CBB[509] GEORGETOWN -4-110



            $5 $29.79



            SBR:

            WagerType:PARLAY (3 TEAMS)
            Date: Team:
            Jan 18 CBB [505] TENNESSEE +3½-110
            Jan 18 CBB [507] COLORADO +4-110
            Jan 18 CBB [509] GEORGETOWN -4-110
            Risking 5 SBR To Win 30.00 SBR
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            • RudyRuetigger
              SBR Aristocracy
              • 08-24-10
              • 65084

              #7
              Originally posted by rm18
              Bookmaker:

              Parlay Wager

              CBB[505] TENNESSEE +3½-110



              CBB[507] COLORADO +4-110



              CBB[509] GEORGETOWN -4-110



              $5 $29.79



              SBR:

              WagerType:PARLAY (3 TEAMS)
              Date: Team:
              Jan 18 CBB [505] TENNESSEE +3½-110
              Jan 18 CBB [507] COLORADO +4-110
              Jan 18 CBB [509] GEORGETOWN -4-110
              Risking 5 SBR To Win 30.00 SBR
              I wouldn't make it up for the hell of it. You're smart, I know you'll figure it out if you care enough. Its not that big of an edge, but an edge...so noone should tell anyone if they figure it out..im just giving the heads up to not bet 3 teamers in the sbr book
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              • Duff85
                SBR MVP
                • 06-15-10
                • 2920

                #8
                Glad to see you back on board with another one of these Rudy!
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                • HiTMaNN
                  SBR Wise Guy
                  • 11-22-10
                  • 774

                  #9
                  Rudy you are one of my favorite cappers on this board and it's funny you say not to follow anyones picks on this board but I have followed your picks blind and always come out on top. But I really loved what you wrote and can't wait to read more in this thread.
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                  • RudyRuetigger
                    SBR Aristocracy
                    • 08-24-10
                    • 65084

                    #10
                    Originally posted by HiTMaNN
                    Rudy you are one of my favorite cappers on this board and it's funny you say not to follow anyones picks on this board but I have followed your picks blind and always come out on top. But I really loved what you wrote and can't wait to read more in this thread.
                    luckily you must not have followed me the last month or so.. but i always said im a losing gambler and noone should ever follow me
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                    • MadTiger
                      SBR MVP
                      • 04-19-09
                      • 2724

                      #11
                      MadTiger reporting in.
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                      • Czu81
                        SBR MVP
                        • 10-25-09
                        • 1082

                        #12
                        great posts. TY Rudy!
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                        • doublej95
                          SBR Posting Legend
                          • 01-26-10
                          • 14094

                          #13
                          Always nice to read your tips Rudy.
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                          • RudyRuetigger
                            SBR Aristocracy
                            • 08-24-10
                            • 65084

                            #14


                            Originally posted by MadTiger
                            MadTiger reporting in.
                            Originally posted by Czu81
                            great posts. TY Rudy!
                            Originally posted by doublej95
                            Always nice to read your tips Rudy.
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                            • sharper2
                              SBR MVP
                              • 03-30-10
                              • 2724

                              #15
                              love reading your thoughts rudy, some day maybe you'll let us know how you cap those huge underdogs to win straight up
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                              • RudyRuetigger
                                SBR Aristocracy
                                • 08-24-10
                                • 65084

                                #16


                                have to throw about 10 picks in, these will be all ml underdogs

                                alabama ml +165
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                                • ngates815
                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                  • 12-01-09
                                  • 13845

                                  #17
                                  awww damnit...I'm already the biggest square, and took Kentucky.

                                  Shit, I've also thought of parlaying it.

                                  I can't get anything right in this gambling world.
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                                  • HiTMaNN
                                    SBR Wise Guy
                                    • 11-22-10
                                    • 774

                                    #18
                                    01/18/2011 12:40:28

                                    Team #1: Alabama
                                    Line #1: Spread +4½ (-115)
                                    Wager #1: $200

                                    01/18/2011 12:40:28

                                    Team #1: Alabama
                                    Line #1: Money Line +165
                                    Wager #1: $100
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                                    • tony_come
                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                      • 03-31-10
                                      • 21695

                                      #19
                                      Just put 100 on the bills to win the superbowl next year
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                                      • RudyRuetigger
                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                        • 08-24-10
                                        • 65084

                                        #20
                                        added +4.5



                                        5.5 is at bodog though
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                                        • aggieshawn
                                          SBR MVP
                                          • 01-24-07
                                          • 4377

                                          #21
                                          Why all the swearing? Gambling is a civilized game.
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                                          • Bookie Z
                                            Restricted User
                                            • 01-17-11
                                            • 26

                                            #22
                                            Georgetown was a sucker bet.
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                                            • RudyRuetigger
                                              SBR Aristocracy
                                              • 08-24-10
                                              • 65084

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by aggieshawn
                                              Why all the swearing? Gambling is a civilized game.


                                              Originally posted by Bookie Z
                                              Georgetown was a sucker bet.
                                              not sure if he actually bet that, just showing example of 3 teamers
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                                              • opie1988
                                                SBR Posting Legend
                                                • 09-12-10
                                                • 23429

                                                #24
                                                Just saw this thread, Rudy. Good stuff.

                                                Thanks for your efforts enlightening squares like myself.
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                                                • RudyRuetigger
                                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                                  • 08-24-10
                                                  • 65084

                                                  #25
                                                  line buried me. everyone must be chasing kentucky after losses on georgia and georgetown


                                                  wow gtown covered
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                                                  • RudyRuetigger
                                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                                    • 08-24-10
                                                    • 65084

                                                    #26
                                                    up 20 and now its a 2 point game

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                                                    • opie1988
                                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                                      • 09-12-10
                                                      • 23429

                                                      #27
                                                      Now its 1 point. That offensive foul on UK may have just saved us!!

                                                      Big stop there.
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                                                      • HiTMaNN
                                                        SBR Wise Guy
                                                        • 11-22-10
                                                        • 774

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by HiTMaNN
                                                        01/18/2011 12:40:28

                                                        Team #1: Alabama
                                                        Line #1: Spread +4½ (-115)
                                                        Wager #1: $200

                                                        01/18/2011 12:40:28

                                                        Team #1: Alabama
                                                        Line #1: Money Line +165
                                                        Wager #1: $100
                                                        They held off till the end Rudy but hey Winner Winner Chicken Dinner!
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                                                        • No coincidences
                                                          SBR Aristocracy
                                                          • 01-18-10
                                                          • 76300

                                                          #29
                                                          Nice work, RR.

                                                          Always love seeing your plays. Good luck!

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                                                          • RudyRuetigger
                                                            SBR Aristocracy
                                                            • 08-24-10
                                                            • 65084

                                                            #30



                                                            wizards +230
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                                                            • ufcmma36
                                                              SBR MVP
                                                              • 02-22-10
                                                              • 1065

                                                              #31
                                                              nice pick!!
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                                                              • Joe Sharp
                                                                SBR MVP
                                                                • 06-01-09
                                                                • 3011

                                                                #32
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                                                                • HiTMaNN
                                                                  SBR Wise Guy
                                                                  • 11-22-10
                                                                  • 774

                                                                  #33
                                                                  01/19/2011 09:53:01

                                                                  Team #1: Washington Wizards
                                                                  Line #1: Spread +6 (-110)
                                                                  Wager #1: $400

                                                                  Team #2: Washington Wizards
                                                                  Line #1: Money Line +225
                                                                  Wager #1: $200
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                                                                  • rm18
                                                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                                                    • 09-20-05
                                                                    • 22291

                                                                    #34
                                                                    wow we are 0-19 on the road, though the Wizards do have better players than Milwaukee.
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                                                                    • RudyRuetigger
                                                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                                                      • 08-24-10
                                                                      • 65084

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by rm18
                                                                      wow we are 0-19 on the road, though the Wizards do have better players than Milwaukee.
                                                                      ive gotten great numbers on the wizards compared to their closing line and i'm down a pretty decent amount of money with them. i posted +230 because it was the most widely available at the time although i saw a couple +240 as well...i still see a +230 at sia, but most are down around +210.... i hope this time they just follow through and the line doesnt shoot up
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