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  • mofome
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 12-19-07
    • 13003

    #1
    Kansas couldn't have it any easier
    wish i was a jayhawk fan.
  • jadyn
    SBR High Roller
    • 02-08-08
    • 101

    #2
    Originally posted by mofome
    wish i was a jayhawk fan.
    yeah they could have it easier.....they could be UCLA
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    • donjuan
      SBR MVP
      • 08-29-07
      • 3993

      #3
      yeah they could have it easier.....they could be UCLA
      Bingo. Would you rather play W Ky and the winner of Hillbilly U-Xavier or Villanova and the winner of Wisconsin-Davidson. Wisconsin is a 3 seed with 1 seed talent. Xavier is a 3 seed with 5 or 6 seed talent.
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      • HedgeHog
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        • 09-11-07
        • 10128

        #4
        Mo's just rippin' on the Big Ten again. He's as shocked as I am that they're 5-2 thus far. However, I still say Wis can play with anyone.

        Oh and yes, UCLA has by far the easiest route to the FF now.
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        • Willie Bee
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          • 02-14-06
          • 15726

          #5
          Originally posted by HedgeHog
          Mo's just rippin' on the Big Ten again. He's as shocked as I am that they're 5-2 thus far. However, I still say Wis can play with anyone.
          Man, I'm sure glad to hear that the Jayhawks have joined the Big Ten now since that will give my Aggies one less Dirty Dozen Conference power to worry about.

          Actually, I think Mo is just trying to deflect attention away from his Vols who weren't all that dominating in their first two games of The Dance and now have to face a Louisville squad that appears to have rebounded nicely from their two losses at the end of their Big East season entering the tournament.
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          • mofome
            SBR Posting Legend
            • 12-19-07
            • 13003

            #6
            conspiracy theorists running a muck. vill stinks (big-east) and the winner of Wisc/Davidson just isn't all that good. maybe people could just read whats there instead of trying to figure out these secret codes all the time.

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            • HedgeHog
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              • 09-11-07
              • 10128

              #7
              Originally posted by Willie Bee
              Man, I'm sure glad to hear that the Jayhawks have joined the Big Ten now since that will give my Aggies one less Dirty Dozen Conference power to worry about.

              Actually, I think Mo is just trying to deflect attention away from his Vols who weren't all that dominating in their first two games of The Dance and now have to face a Louisville squad that appears to have rebounded nicely from their two losses at the end of their Big East season entering the tournament.
              Willie, my point is that Kansas, after disposing of Villanova, will likely have "just" Wisconsin (who is in the Big Ten last I looked) to beat to get to the FF. I think that MO is selling the Big Ten Champ (again Wis not Kansas) short.
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              • Willie Bee
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                • 02-14-06
                • 15726

                #8
                Ah, ok Hog. Wasn't looking further ahead in Mo's mind except that he might be already in pre-excuse mode for his Vols' next game
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                • mofome
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                  • 12-19-07
                  • 13003

                  #9
                  Originally posted by HedgeHog
                  Willie, my point is that Kansas, after disposing of Villanova, will likely have "just" Wisconsin (who is in the Big Ten last I looked) to beat to get to the FF. I think that MO is selling the Big Ten Champ (again Wis not Kansas) short.


                  Yes, the problem is you come off as a paranoid big-10 fan. i made a very simple comment without trying to take a 'shot' at anyone. The Hoyas are a better team than the badgers, i wouldn't assume Kansas and Wisc are destine to meet. Quite a reach to take that statement as a jab at the big-ten, but it is what it is.

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                  • mofome
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                    • 12-19-07
                    • 13003

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Willie Bee
                    Ah, ok Hog. Wasn't looking further ahead in Mo's mind except that he might be already in pre-excuse mode for his Vols' next game


                    I think its safe to assume that the Vols are preparing for UNC more than they are Louisville this week.
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                    • HedgeHog
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                      • 09-11-07
                      • 10128

                      #11
                      Originally posted by mofome
                      Yes, the problem is you come off as a paranoid big-10 fan. i made a very simple comment without trying to take a 'shot' at anyone. The Hoyas are a better team than the badgers, i wouldn't assume Kansas and Wisc are destine to meet. Quite a reach to take that statement as a jab at the big-ten, but it is what it is.

                      Perhaps I shouldn't try to read your mind, because I don't understand why anyone could rationalize that Kansas has an easier route to the FF than UCLA.

                      Bruins play W KY and then the winner of Xav/W. Vir. No #1 Seed has an easier path.
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                      • mofome
                        SBR Posting Legend
                        • 12-19-07
                        • 13003

                        #12
                        Originally posted by HedgeHog
                        Perhaps I shouldn't try to read your mind, because I don't understand why anyone could rationalize that Kansas has an easier route to the FF than UCLA.

                        Bruins play W KY and then the winner of Xav/W. Vir. No #1 Seed has an easier path.

                        no mind reading needed, thats the point, big guy. to make it a 'big-ten' issue is absolutely ridiculous. argue that the bruins have an easier road, sure, but to make it out to be some conference attack is a little silly. My comment was simply that Kansas has an easy road, no need to be so confrontational about something so simple.

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                        • HedgeHog
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                          • 09-11-07
                          • 10128

                          #13
                          Originally posted by mofome
                          no mind reading needed, thats the point, big guy. to make it a 'big-ten' issue is absolutely ridiculous. argue that the bruins have an easier road, sure, but to make it out to be some conference attack is a little silly. My comment was simply that Kansas has an easy road, no need to be so confrontational about something so simple.

                          I am just disagreeing. And since you originally offered no explanation of why the Jayhawks have it so easy, we're left to speculate. No confrontation intended, Buddy.
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                          • NEP Dynasty
                            SBR Wise Guy
                            • 10-17-06
                            • 858

                            #14
                            Originally posted by mofome
                            I think its safe to assume that the Vols are preparing for UNC more than they are Louisville this week.
                            That would be extremely stupid...
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                            • mofome
                              SBR Posting Legend
                              • 12-19-07
                              • 13003

                              #15
                              Originally posted by HedgeHog
                              I am just disagreeing. And since you originally offered no explanation of why the Jayhawks have it so easy, we're left to speculate. No confrontation intended, Buddy.

                              it was 1am and i was heading to bed. I was thinking about my brackets and how i needed Kansas to lose. Then i thought, damn, they have it pretty easy. Following this thought, i posted. No analysis further than that.



                              i certainly respect what Wisc brings to the table year in and year out.

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                              • mofome
                                SBR Posting Legend
                                • 12-19-07
                                • 13003

                                #16
                                Originally posted by NEP Dynasty
                                That would be extremely stupid...

                                Got to be ready for the heels buddy.
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                                • EaglesPhan36
                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                  • 12-06-06
                                  • 71662

                                  #17
                                  Villanova is going to give Kansas all they can handle if they shoot like they did vs. Siena.
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                                  • mofome
                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                    • 12-19-07
                                    • 13003

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by EaglesPhan36
                                    Villanova is going to give Kansas all they can handle if they shoot like they did vs. Siena.

                                    Siena was worse, in that game, than anyone else saw in the round of 32. 11.5 is a large line, but i couldn't play vill.
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                                    • tim patterson
                                      SBR Rookie
                                      • 01-14-08
                                      • 23

                                      #19
                                      For me, it's too early to say what I'll do with this line.
                                      Leaving my options open.
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                                      • JoshW
                                        SBR MVP
                                        • 08-10-05
                                        • 3431

                                        #20
                                        With KU I always worry, but damn this looks like THE team, and THE matchups to get to the final four this year.
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                                        • Louisvillekid1
                                          SBR Aristocracy
                                          • 10-17-07
                                          • 52143

                                          #21
                                          Don't be surprised if Nova takes Kansas down to the wire,

                                          Kansas seems to falter in this spots, history is against 'em.

                                          Jay Wright can coach and Scottie Reynolds could easily be a giant killer on his A game.
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                                          • EaglesPhan36
                                            SBR Aristocracy
                                            • 12-06-06
                                            • 71662

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by mofome
                                            Siena was worse, in that game, than anyone else saw in the round of 32. 11.5 is a large line, but i couldn't play vill.
                                            I do agree with your assessment on Siena. They played poorly, but my take is that if KU slumps any on defense - 'Nova has the shooters to keep them in the game.
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                                            • dodif
                                              SBR MVP
                                              • 12-24-06
                                              • 2037

                                              #23
                                              wcp
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                                              • donjuan
                                                SBR MVP
                                                • 08-29-07
                                                • 3993

                                                #24
                                                The Hoyas are a better team than the badgers
                                                This is wrong. Kenpom and Sagarin both have Wisconsin as a top 5 team.

                                                Also, the matchups favor Wisconsin against Davidson. Flowers is one of the best defenders in the country and will be guarding Curry. That means that unlike against other teams, the other Davidson players won't benefit from an abnormal amount of open looks.
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                                                • Louisvillekid1
                                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                                  • 10-17-07
                                                  • 52143

                                                  #25
                                                  Agree Flowers is an outstanding on the ball defender but Gtown was top 5 defenisve team in the country.

                                                  The difference was clearly 20 turnovers to only 4.
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                                                  • mofome
                                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                                    • 12-19-07
                                                    • 13003

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by donjuan
                                                    This is wrong. Kenpom and Sagarin both have Wisconsin as a top 5 team.

                                                    Also, the matchups favor Wisconsin against Davidson. Flowers is one of the best defenders in the country and will be guarding Curry. That means that unlike against other teams, the other Davidson players won't benefit from an abnormal amount of open looks.

                                                    if the game is called anything like the hoyas/davidson game, wisc is in serious trouble. Gtown shot over 63% and held Davidson under 39, but the officiating was hard to take seriously. I believe gtown was called for 9 offensive fouls and they aren't an offense thats often times finds itself out of control. the defense was not an issue for Gtown, the game was decided, completely, at the line. Davidson couldn't get anything off or stop the hoyas from getting the looks they wanted. imo, if the hoyas had advanced, they would be a fav over wisc. i take it that you disagree with that?
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                                                    • donjuan
                                                      SBR MVP
                                                      • 08-29-07
                                                      • 3993

                                                      #27
                                                      imo, if the hoyas had advanced, they would be a fav over wisc. i take it that you disagree with that?
                                                      Yes, I disagree with that.
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                                                      • BuddyBear
                                                        SBR Hall of Famer
                                                        • 08-10-05
                                                        • 7233

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by donjuan
                                                        Yes, I disagree with that.
                                                        LVSC has Georgetown rated a full 2 pts higher in the power ratings than Wisconsin. Georgetown would probably open -1/-1.5 IMO. I'd trust LVSC before I trusted Don Juan's analysis on this subject matter.....
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                                                        • BuddyBear
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                                                          • 08-10-05
                                                          • 7233

                                                          #29
                                                          I think Mofome is right about everything he is saying here. He has made some very good points. Nobody knows NCAAB as well as he does.....
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                                                          • donjuan
                                                            SBR MVP
                                                            • 08-29-07
                                                            • 3993

                                                            #30
                                                            LVSC has Georgetown rated a full 2 pts higher in the power ratings than Wisconsin. Georgetown would probably open -1/-1.5 IMO. I'd trust LVSC before I trusted Don Juan's analysis on this subject matter.....
                                                            Because LVSC is sooooooo good that lines never move from the open.

                                                            Since you don't trust my model, try checking who Kenpom and Sagarin have as a better team.
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                                                            • imgv94
                                                              SBR Posting Legend
                                                              • 11-16-05
                                                              • 17192

                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by donjuan
                                                              This is wrong. Kenpom and Sagarin both have Wisconsin as a top 5 team.

                                                              Also, the matchups favor Wisconsin against Davidson. Flowers is one of the best defenders in the country and will be guarding Curry. That means that unlike against other teams, the other Davidson players won't benefit from an abnormal amount of open looks.
                                                              Combine that with the fact that G'Town had 20 turnovers. Bo Ryan saw how Davidson defeated Zaga and G'town, he'll know what to do and what not to do against an overacheiving Davidson. I believe Wisky will be one of the best plays in the tourney, almost as good as Mississippi St was.
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                                                              • BuddyBear
                                                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                • 08-10-05
                                                                • 7233

                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by donjuan
                                                                Because LVSC is sooooooo good that lines never move from the open.

                                                                Since you don't trust my model, try checking who Kenpom and Sagarin have as a better team.
                                                                Here we go again.

                                                                Now LVSC does not know what they are talking about. I better check with Don Juan and his model, it's considerably more accurate than LVSC's power ratings. Even when you present this guy information he discounts it. I give up

                                                                Come on dude, grow up. Mofome is making an important point in this thread. I think you are just arguing for the sake of arguing and nothing more. Listen, we all get it. Georgetown/Wisconsin would be a very close matchup pointspread wise. One person might open GT small favorites and someone else might open UW a small favorite.

                                                                Relax man......geez.
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                                                                • imgv94
                                                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                                                  • 11-16-05
                                                                  • 17192

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by BuddyBear
                                                                  I think Mofome is right about everything he is saying here. He has made some very good points. Nobody knows NCAAB as well as he does.....


                                                                  Jesus Christ that made me laugh hard..
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                                                                  • Quebb Diesel
                                                                    SBR MVP
                                                                    • 01-26-08
                                                                    • 3045

                                                                    #34
                                                                    i would say ucla has the easiest trip to the final four out of each region but the way they are playing i would have to take kansas instead. ucla got bailed out last weekend against a&m (a team that ucla should be able to walk over) and also got bailed out against stanford a couple weeks ago too. ucla was playing their best ball a month ago and are starting to fall flat (and dont bring up the 41 point win against miss valley st because we are talking about...miss valley st)...kansas is the best overall team in the tourney right now IMO (arguably louisville and UNC too) and i think their size and speed will give nova problems all day long. i also do not see wisconsin slowing kansas down to their style of play 1. because i think kansas will come out up a decent amount early and 2. there are many mismatches on the court in this game favoring kansas...
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                                                                    • mofome
                                                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                                                      • 12-19-07
                                                                      • 13003

                                                                      #35
                                                                      BB thanks for the praise, just read through this.

                                                                      don is a cool muther, i like the guy even though we don't always agree. i'd rather have an argument with someone with an IQ over 18 (don) than someone who's retort is "im putting you on ignore since i just got verbally raped" (gyno). speaking of which, its odd that someone would open a thread by me if they have me on ignore; brains aren't for everyone.




                                                                      anyway, i disagree with rtj, don, and HH all the time, but i enjoy what they have to say in each instance. Always something you can pull.


                                                                      Then there is a QD siting.
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