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  • ThaddeusB
    SBR Hall of Famer
    • 08-10-10
    • 8874

    #36
    Originally posted by pavyracer
    I'm pretty sure if you go to the McDonald's drive through and order a quarter pounder and when you go home you find 2 quarter pounders in the bag you will not drive back and pay for the restaurant's mistake.
    Your point being what exactly? An error on the book's part is allowing CPs is no different making an error in posting a line. In any case, your analogy is not applicable at all. That would be like a book accidentally processing your withdraw twice (paying you double). Or, a line is be like seeing the quarter burger accidentally priced at 0.50 and taking advantage of it.
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    • pavyracer
      SBR Aristocracy
      • 04-12-07
      • 82839

      #37
      common yisser..you will drive back from your house to pay for something you didn't ask for? Most people will return the free burger the next day when they go back for another order.
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      • sharpcat
        Restricted User
        • 12-19-09
        • 4516

        #38
        Originally posted by pavyracer
        Trix Trix was betting corellated parlays. Now if I made a parlay with the ML at -135 and pk line at -145 that would be cheating and this is what Trix did.
        Actually Trix has just been betting +EV subsets of teasers which many rec books offer at the same price that SBR is offering and SBR John has even said that the book is still holding its expected hold % on teasers so he is not cheating in any way. Hitting a line at -150 when it is supposed to be -350 is cheating.

        I would have to think that your argument had more to do with envy than it did with protecting the SBR community.
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        • pavyracer
          SBR Aristocracy
          • 04-12-07
          • 82839

          #39
          Originally posted by ThaddeusB
          Your point being what exactly? An error on the book's part is allowing CPs is no different making an error in posting a line. In any case, your analogy is not applicable at all. That would be like a book accidentally processing your withdraw twice (paying you double). Or, a line is be like seeing the quarter burger accidentally priced at 0.50 and taking advantage of it.
          I did not ask for the free burger!! Why should I burn 1 gallon of gas to return it to the store?
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          • yisman
            SBR Aristocracy
            • 09-01-08
            • 75682

            #40
            Originally posted by pavyracer
            common yisser..you will drive back from your house to pay for something you didn't ask for? Most people will return the free burger the next day when they go back for another order.
            it only happened once to me and it's a place near my house anyway.

            Normally I check inside the box/bag to see if I got what I ordered. That time I didn't.

            Originally posted by pavyracer
            I did not ask for the free burger!! Why should I burn 1 gallon of gas to return it to the store?
            That was your bad comparison anyway.

            Getting 2 burgers instead of one was not intentional on your part.

            Getting an obviously bad line is intentional.

            I'm not going to judge you for taking bad lines, but I'll just say that it's the same as betting correlated parlays, which you spent hundreds of posts bashing.
            [quote=jjgold;5683305]I win again like usual
            [/quote]

            [quote=Whippit;7921056]miami won't lose a single eastern conference game through end of season[/quote]
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            • pavyracer
              SBR Aristocracy
              • 04-12-07
              • 82839

              #41
              Originally posted by sharpcat
              Actually Trix has just been betting +EV subsets of teasers which many rec books offer at the same price that SBR is offering and SBR John has even said that the book is still holding its expected hold % on teasers so he is not cheating in any way. Hitting a line at -150 when it is supposed to be -350 is cheating.

              I would have to think that your argument had more to do with envy than it did with protecting the SBR community.
              You are wrong. I never envy cheaters.
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              • trixtrix
                Restricted User
                • 04-13-06
                • 1897

                #42
                Originally posted by pavyracer
                You are wrong. I never envy cheaters.
                you must hate yourself then.

                taking -110 when the fair line -350, what a scumbag!
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                • chachi
                  SBR MVP
                  • 02-16-07
                  • 4571

                  #43
                  Originally posted by ThaddeusB
                  That would be like a book accidentally processing your withdraw twice (paying you double).
                  No ... that would be
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                  • pavyracer
                    SBR Aristocracy
                    • 04-12-07
                    • 82839

                    #44
                    Originally posted by trixtrix
                    you must hate yourself then.

                    taking -110 when the fair line -350, what a scumbag!
                    You are wrong. I never took the line. That's the difference between people with integrity like me and people who cheat like you. Because you saw the correlated parlay was allowed and instead of notifying the mods with a post like I did you took a chance and placed a bet and got paid.
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                    • trixtrix
                      Restricted User
                      • 04-13-06
                      • 1897

                      #45
                      Originally posted by pavyracer
                      You are wrong. I never took the line. That's the difference between people with integrity like me and people who cheat like you. Because you saw the correlated parlay was allowed and instead of notifying the mods with a post like I did you took a chance and placed a bet and got paid.
                      blah blah blah, go bet some more -110 when real price should be -350 and whine about getting paid, you cheater
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                      • sharpcat
                        Restricted User
                        • 12-19-09
                        • 4516

                        #46
                        I would not consider betting correlated parlays cheating, as a matter of fact SBR has down graded many books for refusing to pay players their winnings for betting correlated parlays.
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                        • Fischnasty
                          SBR MVP
                          • 02-10-09
                          • 1931

                          #47
                          test
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                          • pavyracer
                            SBR Aristocracy
                            • 04-12-07
                            • 82839

                            #48
                            Originally posted by trixtrix
                            blah blah blah, go bet some more -110 when real price should be -350 and whine about getting paid, you cheater
                            You can ask the book manager. Never placed a bet cheater.
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                            • trixtrix
                              Restricted User
                              • 04-13-06
                              • 1897

                              #49
                              Originally posted by pavyracer
                              You can ask the book manager. Never placed a bet cheater.
                              truth is irrelevant in your attacks of me, since you claimed i placed asian-handicap soccer parlays when i never did

                              so we'll do the same and save the point of verification, since we all know you cheated, cheater
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                              • blackbeSSt
                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                • 09-06-08
                                • 9398

                                #50
                                Originally posted by sharpcat
                                I would not consider betting correlated parlays cheating, as a matter of fact SBR has down graded many books for refusing to pay players their winnings for betting correlated parlays.
                                i wouldn't either. granted i don't keep up with soccer as much as the next, isn't it hard enough to be on the right side of the ml, much less ml and spread?
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                                • chachi
                                  SBR MVP
                                  • 02-16-07
                                  • 4571

                                  #51
                                  3-1 Inter ~ 20 mins to play
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                                  • pavyracer
                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                    • 04-12-07
                                    • 82839

                                    #52
                                    Originally posted by trixtrix
                                    truth is irrelevant in your attacks of me, since you claimed i placed asian-handicap soccer parlays when i never did

                                    so we'll do the same and save the point of verification, since we all know you cheated, cheater
                                    So on top of being a cheater you are actually fabricating lies about me now. Way to go!
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                                    • chachi
                                      SBR MVP
                                      • 02-16-07
                                      • 4571

                                      #53
                                      trix/pavy - I respect both of you here for your own talents and abilities, but can't you two just open a thread and sit and tell each other to FO without the rest of us having to wade through it repeatedly?
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                                      • trixtrix
                                        Restricted User
                                        • 04-13-06
                                        • 1897

                                        #54
                                        Originally posted by pavyracer
                                        So on top of being a cheater you are actually fabricating lies about me now. Way to go!
                                        far less than lies you have fabricated in regards to me, funny how the hypocrisy reveals itself when the shoes is on the other foot

                                        so go back to cheating cheater, everyone who read this thread knows that you cheated, as called out by everyone
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                                        • pavyracer
                                          SBR Aristocracy
                                          • 04-12-07
                                          • 82839

                                          #55
                                          Originally posted by trixtrix
                                          far less than lies you have fabricated in regards to me, funny how the hypocrisy reveals itself when the shoes is on the other foot

                                          so go back to cheating cheater, everyone who read this thread knows that you cheated, as called out by everyone
                                          Yes everyone knows I cheated the SBR Book by not placing a bet. Really, how dumb can you be?
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                                          • trixtrix
                                            Restricted User
                                            • 04-13-06
                                            • 1897

                                            #56
                                            Originally posted by pavyracer
                                            Yes everyone knows I cheated the SBR Book by not placing a bet. Really, how dumb can you be?
                                            as dumb as a cheater who keeps claiming asian handicap parlays were available, when they never were, you know any dumb cheaters like that?
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                                            • Optional
                                              Administrator
                                              • 06-10-10
                                              • 61610

                                              #57
                                              Originally posted by gryfyn1
                                              Check your sportsbook lines, you have a costly error.
                                              Originally posted by pavyracer
                                              Give me some of that Inter Milan pk at -145.
                                              Originally posted by RichardMoss
                                              Done. The importer is working fine.

                                              Arguing about who is a cheat after the book has said it is fine seems a bit redundant.
                                              .
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                                              • blackbeSSt
                                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                                • 09-06-08
                                                • 9398

                                                #58
                                                Originally posted by Optional
                                                Arguing about who is a cheat after the book has said it is fine seems a bit redundant.
                                                did you read the rest of the thread? it was not "fine". they moved the -145 to -350 20 minutes prior to the match starting.
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                                                • opie1988
                                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                                  • 09-12-10
                                                  • 23429

                                                  #59
                                                  Ummmm......reading through these posts makes me feel really dumb. All of this CP, Asian Soccer, expected hold, etc.... ???

                                                  I was really hoping for some insight on the GoDaddy.com bowl. Is it possible to correlay an Asian Parlay for +EV with proper yield on Middle Tennessee State??
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                                                  • chachi
                                                    SBR MVP
                                                    • 02-16-07
                                                    • 4571

                                                    #60
                                                    3-1 FT result ...
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                                                    • RichardMoss
                                                      SBR MVP
                                                      • 11-27-08
                                                      • 2162

                                                      #61
                                                      Originally posted by Optional
                                                      Arguing about who is a cheat after the book has said it is fine seems a bit redundant.
                                                      The importer was picking up what BM was sending. Now, the correctness of the data sent relies on BM's shoulders and not on SBR's, as these are not 'in-house' lines.
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                                                      • chachi
                                                        SBR MVP
                                                        • 02-16-07
                                                        • 4571

                                                        #62
                                                        Originally posted by blackbeSSt
                                                        someone who took the spread at -145 post up what happens to your play!
                                                        voided as expected ...
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                                                        • ThaddeusB
                                                          SBR Hall of Famer
                                                          • 08-10-10
                                                          • 8874

                                                          #63
                                                          Originally posted by chachi
                                                          voided as expected ...
                                                          Top tier shops (usually) honor bad lines, why doesn't SBR?
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                                                          • ThaddeusB
                                                            SBR Hall of Famer
                                                            • 08-10-10
                                                            • 8874

                                                            #64
                                                            Originally posted by pavyracer
                                                            I did not ask for the free burger!! Why should I burn 1 gallon of gas to return it to the store?
                                                            I didn't comment on whether or not you should return the burger. I said your analogy made no sense. Accidentally getting an extra burger is not comparable to purposely taking a bad line.
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                                                            • pavyracer
                                                              SBR Aristocracy
                                                              • 04-12-07
                                                              • 82839

                                                              #65
                                                              Originally posted by ThaddeusB
                                                              I didn't comment on whether or not you should return the burger. I said your analogy made no sense. Accidentally getting an extra burger is not comparable to purposely taking a bad line.
                                                              Calm down pal. This is SBR Players Talk..not Harvard vs Yale debate contest.
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                                                              • chachi
                                                                SBR MVP
                                                                • 02-16-07
                                                                • 4571

                                                                #66
                                                                Originally posted by ThaddeusB
                                                                Top tier shops (usually) honor bad lines, why doesn't SBR?
                                                                gotcha 2 for 2 again
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                                                                • ThaddeusB
                                                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                  • 08-10-10
                                                                  • 8874

                                                                  #67
                                                                  Originally posted by pavyracer
                                                                  Calm down pal. This is SBR Players Talk..not Harvard vs Yale debate contest.
                                                                  WTF? You make a comment that completely illogical and me pointing this fact out means I am upset? An analogy is not a very strong form of argument to begin with, but if you are going to make one at least make sure it is applicable - you can't just compare two random situations and say "by analogy, I am right."
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                                                                  • Iwinyourmoney
                                                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                                                    • 04-18-07
                                                                    • 18368

                                                                    #68
                                                                    pounding bad lines is cheating;

                                                                    pavy u know this scumbag
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                                                                    • pavyracer
                                                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                                                      • 04-12-07
                                                                      • 82839

                                                                      #69
                                                                      Originally posted by Iwinyourmoney
                                                                      pounding bad lines is cheating;

                                                                      pavy u know this scumbag
                                                                      Pounding bad lines after the lines manager said the lines are good is not cheating.
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                                                                      • trixtrix
                                                                        Restricted User
                                                                        • 04-13-06
                                                                        • 1897

                                                                        #70
                                                                        okay cheater, thx for ruining sbr for the rest of us
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