REMEMBER----New OT rules for NFL playoff games

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  • Fishhead
    SBR Aristocracy
    • 08-11-05
    • 40179

    #1
    REMEMBER----New OT rules for NFL playoff games
    With 2011 playoffs, overtime rules change

    Posted by Michael David Smith on January 3, 2011, 8:39 PM EST

    The first non-sudden death overtime in NFL history could be coming this weekend.

    The league’s new postseason overtime rules are now in effect, meaning a field goal on the first possession of overtime doesn’t end the game. Instead, if the team receiving the overtime kickoff kicks a field goal on the first drive, the other team would have a chance to either tie the game with a field goal (at which point it would be sudden death from there) or win the game with a touchdown. A touchdown or safety at any point in overtime would win the game.

    So will the new rule make teams more or less likely to play for overtime? And could it make teams decide to kick, rather than receive, at the start of overtime?

    We won’t really know until we see playoff overtime, but Saints coach Sean Payton said today that it could make him handle late-game strategy differently.

    “I think you’ll pay attention to how the game is progressing,” Payton said. “How the first four quarters have gone would predicate your decision on how you would handle it.”

    So we’ll have to wait and see whether it makes a difference if one of the 11 postseason games
    ends with the new and (the league hopes) improved overtime.
  • Fishhead
    SBR Aristocracy
    • 08-11-05
    • 40179

    #2
    This should have been the case during the REGULAR SEASON also............makes no sense to have it only for the playoffs.
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    • l7ustin
      SBR MVP
      • 10-09-08
      • 3914

      #3

      first ive heard of this
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      • rm18
        SBR Posting Legend
        • 09-20-05
        • 22291

        #4
        I would definitely kickoff under these rules
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        • Doc JS
          SBR Hall of Famer
          • 09-15-06
          • 6885

          #5
          Originally posted by rm18
          I would definitely kickoff under these rules
          I'm not sure I necessairly agree with that...

          I think it depends on the game. Is it 10-10 and defenses have totally dominated? If it is, I agree with you. Id kick off, get a stop, get good field position, kick a field goal and get the win.

          If the score is 45-45 and nobody has stopped anybody. Id take the ball, score a TD, game over, drive safely on your way home.

          Doc
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          • ngates815
            SBR Posting Legend
            • 12-01-09
            • 13845

            #6
            I really like the rule.


            I hate to see a good team lose just because the flip of a coin, and the other team had a decent return and 1 first down, then bombs a 55 yard FG.
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            • benjy
              SBR MVP
              • 02-19-09
              • 2158

              #7
              Thanks for the heads up Fish!
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              • gryfyn1
                SBR MVP
                • 03-30-10
                • 3285

                #8
                this is ridiculous and insane ;

                If they want whine and cry about the over time rules, change it to full periods, none of this if-then crap.
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                • stealthyburrito
                  SBR Posting Legend
                  • 05-12-09
                  • 21562

                  #9
                  Good stuff fishy.

                  Rules are a littlemore complex then I previously thought.
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                  • jgray
                    SBR MVP
                    • 09-06-09
                    • 3599

                    #10
                    Good reminder Fish. I had forgotten.
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                    • JimmysEgo
                      SBR MVP
                      • 06-07-10
                      • 1201

                      #11
                      this happened to me playing Madden 2011. i was like "what the hell!?!" then i was like, "oh yeah....." i kicked a field goal and thought the game was over but it said i had to kick off. i won anyway, i actually picked up a fumble and ran it in for a touchdown so i scored twice in overtime.
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                      • Mikail
                        SBR Posting Legend
                        • 07-19-09
                        • 21689

                        #12
                        Good job Fishhead. Thanks for giving us the heads up on this one. I had totally forgot about this. Another thing to consider when capping a game. Also I agree with the new OT rules. It just seems more fair now. Before a team would win on luck of the coin flip. Now if that happens the other team has the opportunity to respond. I also am in agreement with you they should do this even during the regular season. Why just only the playoffs? Ya know.
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                        • DeeWizzle
                          SBR MVP
                          • 03-08-09
                          • 3316

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Fishhead
                          This should have been the case during the REGULAR SEASON also............makes no sense to have it only for the playoffs.
                          Agreed. It doesn't make sense to change ruIes for the post season. OnIy thing worse is the ingame change of Ref pIacement for the Iast two minutes. Either Ieave them back there or don't put them back there at aII.
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                          • starfire
                            SBR Posting Legend
                            • 03-24-10
                            • 17045

                            #14
                            I always want the ball 1st
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                            • tblues2005
                              SBR Hall of Famer
                              • 07-30-06
                              • 9235

                              #15
                              I like the rule change and if it works in the post season then I would say they will use it during the regular season next year.
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                              • dherd
                                SBR Wise Guy
                                • 03-21-09
                                • 631

                                #16
                                good post - i had forgotten about the change
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                                • SamsNCharge99
                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                  • 10-22-08
                                  • 41242

                                  #17
                                  NFL should go to college rules, but instead of starting at 25, start at maybe 50 yrd line
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                                  • marcoloco
                                    SBR MVP
                                    • 07-05-10
                                    • 3986

                                    #18
                                    should make things more interesting
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                                    • pavyracer
                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                      • 04-12-07
                                      • 82839

                                      #19
                                      Basically if you bet the over/under you can be screwed big time in OT.

                                      There is no way I am playing over/unders in playoffs.
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                                      • mcbaseball10
                                        SBR MVP
                                        • 02-11-09
                                        • 2866

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by JimmysEgo
                                        this happened to me playing Madden 2011. i was like "what the hell!?!" then i was like, "oh yeah....." i kicked a field goal and thought the game was over but it said i had to kick off. i won anyway, i actually picked up a fumble and ran it in for a touchdown so i scored twice in overtime.
                                        What did you say after you won, "Hell yeah!"
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                                        • Sildenafil
                                          SBR High Roller
                                          • 05-18-10
                                          • 174

                                          #21
                                          What happens in this situation:
                                          Team A receives first, doesn't score, punts back.
                                          Team B doesn't score on next possession, punts back.

                                          Does it then go to sudden death where Team A would win with a field goal on next possession or does Team B get a chance to reply?

                                          Is it only sudden death if there are two field goals on first two possessions or sudden death after each team gets a chance to score?
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                                          • Dad
                                            SBR Posting Legend
                                            • 11-26-08
                                            • 23245

                                            #22
                                            Can't wait to see an OT game now.
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                                            • mcbaseball10
                                              SBR MVP
                                              • 02-11-09
                                              • 2866

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by pavyracer
                                              Basically if you bet the over/under you can be screwed big time in OT. There is not way I am playing over/unders in playoffs.
                                              How many playoff games have actually gone to overtime throughout the years though?
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                                              • kmoney
                                                SBR High Roller
                                                • 04-19-10
                                                • 119

                                                #24
                                                so it only applies to the first possession? ex: team 1 gets the ball and punts, then team 2 punts, team 1 can then kick the field goal to win?
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                                                • jetsjets1028
                                                  SBR MVP
                                                  • 02-10-10
                                                  • 1234

                                                  #25
                                                  yes there are i guess
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                                                  • pavyracer
                                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                                    • 04-12-07
                                                    • 82839

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by Sildenafil
                                                    What happens in this situation:
                                                    Team A receives first, doesn't score, punts back.
                                                    Team B doesn't score on next possession, punts back.

                                                    Does it then go to sudden death where Team A would win with a field goal on next possession or does Team B get a chance to reply?

                                                    Is it only sudden death if there are two field goals on first two possessions or sudden death after each team gets a chance to score?
                                                    From what I understand the only time this rule applies is if the team receiving the ball in OT kicks a FG on the opening drive in OT.

                                                    If they score a TD, ball is intercepted, ball is fumbled, ball is punted etc the other team can score however they want to win the game without giving the ball back to other team after scoring. Also if each team punts once then it's sudden death from there after.

                                                    The rule was placed so that the team winning the coin toss can't win the game with a FG on first drive.
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                                                    • wrongturn
                                                      SBR MVP
                                                      • 06-06-06
                                                      • 2228

                                                      #27
                                                      Also if you do onside kick surprise and get the ball, you can go ahead to win with a field goal. But if you don't get the ball, and they score a field goal, you still have a chance to answer. Right?
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                                                      • THE HITMAN
                                                        SBR MVP
                                                        • 06-16-07
                                                        • 2394

                                                        #28
                                                        Will be very interesting to see(if it comes into play, if it doesn't we will never know for sure) how some coaches play the OT. Some will make their own decision, some may discuss it with ther assistant coaches. Would be nice if the team captains had some input, I think that would be cool.
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                                                        • floridagolfer
                                                          SBR MVP
                                                          • 12-19-08
                                                          • 2757

                                                          #29
                                                          I'd still want the ball first.

                                                          If you decide to kick, you run the risk of giving up a TD, even on a fluke play, and without getting a chance to get your offense on the field, you're eliminated. If you take the ball first, you're more in control; you can win the game outright with a touchdown or, at worst, get the 3 points and turn it over to your defense.

                                                          This is pretty much a no-brainer to me.
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                                                          • d2bets
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                                                            • 08-10-05
                                                            • 39995

                                                            #30
                                                            Wow I had no idea. Thanks for the heads up. Could potentially help an over, esp a 2nd half over, though OT is not that common. But in a close game, this could certainly help a 2H over.

                                                            And yes, under this rule, I'd definitely rather kickoff first and know what you need. No brainer.

                                                            So, like college, they could go back and forth with scoring I guess. Although much tougher having to do it off a kickoff. But if you get it first you gotta try to get a TD because a FG might not be enough.

                                                            Hopefully we'll get an OT game to watch this play out. Fun.

                                                            Edit: If the receiving team kicks a FG and the other team kicks a FG back.....then its sudden death....who gets the ball??? Another coin flip???
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                                                            • big0mar
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                                                              • 01-09-09
                                                              • 3374

                                                              #31
                                                              Rule won't have much impact IMO
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                                                              • pavyracer
                                                                SBR Aristocracy
                                                                • 04-12-07
                                                                • 82839

                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by d2bets
                                                                Wow I had no idea. Thanks for the heads up. Could potentially help an over, esp a 2nd half over, though OT is not that common. But in a close game, this could certainly help a 2H over.

                                                                And yes, under this rule, I'd definitely rather kickoff first and know what you need. No brainer.

                                                                So, like college, they could go back and forth with scoring I guess. Although much tougher having to do it off a kickoff. But if you get it first you gotta try to get a TD because a FG might not be enough.

                                                                Hopefully we'll get an OT game to watch this play out. Fun.

                                                                Edit: If the receiving team kicks a FG and the other team kicks a FG back.....then its sudden death....who gets the ball??? Another coin flip???
                                                                I don't think you understand the rule.

                                                                If a team scores a TD on first possession the game is over. The other team will not get the ball back. The only time the other team gets the ball back is if the team receiving the ball after coin toss scores a FG on first drive.

                                                                And after each team scores a FG (if scored on first drive) it goes to sudden death. Also if teams don't score on each of their first possession it goes to sudden death.

                                                                So the most possible points scored in OT is 12 (assuming each team trades FG on first drives and a TD is scored to break tie later.
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                                                                • wrongturn
                                                                  SBR MVP
                                                                  • 06-06-06
                                                                  • 2228

                                                                  #33
                                                                  I agree that teams winning the toss still want to receive ball first. The advantage of winning toss is much smaller than old rule, but still there. Just watch out for the onside kick though.
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                                                                  • pokernut9999
                                                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                                                    • 07-25-07
                                                                    • 12757

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by pavyracer
                                                                    I don't think you understand the rule.

                                                                    If a team scores a TD on first possession the game is over. The other team will not get the ball back. The only time the other team gets the ball back is if the team receiving the ball after coin toss scores a FG on first drive.

                                                                    And after each team scores a FG (if scored on first drive) it goes to sudden death. Also if teams don't score on each of their first possession it goes to sudden death.

                                                                    So the most possible points scored in OT is 12 (assuming each team trades FG on first drives and a TD is scored to break tie later.

                                                                    As usual Pavy gets the concept
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                                                                    • dfberger23
                                                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                      • 11-08-10
                                                                      • 5069

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Really dumb to start this rule now, NFL are morons.
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