Do Spring training numbers really mean anything?

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  • mofome
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 12-19-07
    • 13003

    #1
    Do Spring training numbers really mean anything?
    i remember a few years ago Mark Teixeira set a record for total bases in the spring and everyone was hyped by it, this year joba has struggled some and ive heard some yanks fans seeming concerned. anything to consider or is it fairly meaningless?
  • Red_Sux
    SBR MVP
    • 06-25-07
    • 1262

    #2
    no

    can you really take them seriously when you're pitching to billy crystal?
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    • Sportsgirl
      SBR MVP
      • 09-10-06
      • 4493

      #3
      The Detroit Tigers had their spring training in Lakeland, Fla. where I went to college.

      Numbers mean everything
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      • ChuteBoxe
        SBR Hall of Famer
        • 11-21-07
        • 6885

        #4
        Nope, too long of a season, no true closers at the end of games, kids that don't belong out there not making routine plays, etc.. The spring is more of an evaluation on a person by person basis. Plus, you can't expect a pitcher to be in perfect shape this early. That's the biggest factor in the Spring. Most pitchers arms don't strengthen to 100% until July/August. That's when you'll notice pitch speeds are at their highest. That's just a brief summary, I can talk to you about this for hours.

        BTW, I'm not worried one bit.
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        • LT Profits
          SBR Aristocracy
          • 10-27-06
          • 90963

          #5
          In a word, NO.
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          • The HG
            SBR MVP
            • 11-01-06
            • 3566

            #6
            Originally posted by LT Profits
            In a word, NO.
            Right. Follow baseball, spring training + regular season for one year, and this will become readily apparent.

            Although, in certain specific instances, spring training stats can shed light that can be useful in the early going. For instance, a pitcher who is coming back from a serious injury. If accompanied by good (or bad) reports, good (or bad) spring training stats can be meaningful.
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            • MadCapper
              SBR MVP
              • 01-27-08
              • 4179

              #7
              butch huskey avged 8 hr every spring
              My Blog: http://madcapper.mysbrforum.com/
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              • Arnold
                SBR Wise Guy
                • 12-17-07
                • 906

                #8
                I think no. It is just practice for them.
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                • bradleysnyder
                  Restricted User
                  • 04-18-07
                  • 6662

                  #9
                  Originally posted by mofome
                  i remember a few years ago Mark Teixeira set a record for total bases in the spring and everyone was hyped by it, this year joba has struggled some and ive heard some yanks fans seeming concerned. anything to consider or is it fairly meaningless?
                  i would say baseball is meaningless anyways.any team can beat another on ANY day.NOTHING IS A SUPRISE WHEN IT COMES TO BASEBALL..shit teams win big games a lot more in baseball than any other sport.thats why most find it hard to cap
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                  • willyback
                    SBR Wise Guy
                    • 11-15-07
                    • 674

                    #10
                    Nope, not during spring training. The star players usually leave the ballpark before the game's over. You're betting on major league hopefuls - minor leaguers trying to impress the coaching staff for a spot on the final roster.
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                    • dannyt76
                      SBR Wise Guy
                      • 06-29-07
                      • 779

                      #11
                      Originally posted by bradleysnyder
                      i would say baseball is meaningless anyways.any team can beat another on ANY day.NOTHING IS A SUPRISE WHEN IT COMES TO BASEBALL..shit teams win big games a lot more in baseball than any other sport.thats why most find it hard to cap
                      Well put bradley.

                      As far as spring stats, I don't put much stock in them at all. An example would be Ichiro going something like 0-22 to start the spring before getting his first hit. Even if he went O-for the spring I wouldn't be worried about his hitting.
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                      • accuscoresucks
                        SBR Hall of Famer
                        • 11-03-07
                        • 7160

                        #12
                        nope the stats couldnt buy a beanpod till about 25 games into regular season.

                        just take the dogs,on your own interpatation of close games,limit your daily picks to very few
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                        • thegreatdiatchi
                          SBR MVP
                          • 03-07-08
                          • 1154

                          #13
                          Only a small indicator for the first few weeks of the season. After that no.
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                          • INVEGA MAN
                            SBR Hall of Famer
                            • 01-30-08
                            • 6806

                            #14
                            Only for rookies
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                            • buzzsawl
                              SBR Hustler
                              • 03-14-07
                              • 91

                              #15
                              No
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                              • WolfJaw
                                SBR Rookie
                                • 03-02-08
                                • 3

                                #16
                                Originally posted by Sportsgirl
                                The Detroit Tigers had their spring training in Lakeland, Fla. where I went to college.

                                Numbers mean everything
                                If ur a pitcher trying for a spot on the 25 man roster they mean everything.....The regular players not so much.
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                                • OLGC_Slayer
                                  SBR MVP
                                  • 02-28-08
                                  • 2186

                                  #17
                                  For the purposes of betting, not one damn thing. Fantasy-wise its wise to keep track of whats going on but its a brand new season wager wise once the regular season starts.
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                                  • jjgold
                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                    • 07-20-05
                                    • 388179

                                    #18
                                    They are worthless
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                                    • Willie Bee
                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                      • 02-14-06
                                      • 15726

                                      #19
                                      Overall, or speaking in very general terms, the stats don't mean much. But suggesting they're entirely worthless is a bit ignorant. In the end, if you're not actually watching the performances and just looking at numbers, then they're just stats like any other stats. No player can be fully judged just looking at a few columns of cipherin's.
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                                      • thegreatdiatchi
                                        SBR MVP
                                        • 03-07-08
                                        • 1154

                                        #20
                                        Well for betting it definitely means nothing. As far as for how teams may do at the very beginning of the season it could mean a little bit but there is no correlation between bad spring training and bad season starts either.
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                                        • Munson15
                                          SBR High Roller
                                          • 12-24-07
                                          • 218

                                          #21
                                          Pitchers are not showing hitters they will face in the regular season anything significant, and many hitters don't have the same approach they will have in April and beyond.
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