Bodog .. Should I request **********?

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  • tarheelfan72
    SBR Sharp
    • 03-18-08
    • 286

    #36
    I don;t have a whole lot to add to this but I can tell you with 100% certaintly that the law is not going to get involved in a ********** dispute with an offshore casino.

    I will also say that in my opinion bodog is a scam casino, and does not have true odds by any stretch, and if you are able to pull off a ********** you would only be taking back what they stole from you in the first place.
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    • Red_Sux
      SBR MVP
      • 06-25-07
      • 1262

      #37
      [QUOTE=tarheelfan72;612076]I don;t have a whole lot to add to this but I can tell you with 100% certaintly that the law is not going to get involved in a ********** dispute with an offshore casino.

      I will also say that in my opinion bodog is a scam casino, and does not have true odds by any stretch, and if you are able to pull off a ********** you would only be taking back what they stole from you in the first place.[/QUOTE]

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      • golfguy112233
        SBR Rookie
        • 09-05-07
        • 18

        #38
        man up and pay your debts. remember one thing, it is your mom's credit score on the line not yours. stop stealing from mommy, your a big boy now.
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        • tarheelfan72
          SBR Sharp
          • 03-18-08
          • 286

          #39
          bodog does not report chargebacks to credit, they threaten to but do not ultimately do so

          I mean they are not even legal. It would be the legal equivalent of your drug dealer asking equifax to put it on your report that you didn't pay him for some smack.
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          • NDIrish9
            Restricted User
            • 12-02-09
            • 342

            #40
            anything happen?
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            • chachi
              SBR MVP
              • 02-16-07
              • 4571

              #41
              holy 'bumping a dusty ancient thread' batman !
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              • VTranX
                SBR MVP
                • 02-02-10
                • 1975

                #42
                Originally posted by natethegreat920
                AFter what I experienced on Bodog, I've lost most of my temptations to gamble. I already can't go to my local casinos, and I will NEVER try bodog ever again. That kind of limits my options.
                I don't know why your singling bodog out for this. I you had done this at any other book on net, you would hav had the same situation.
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                • JoeB
                  SBR High Roller
                  • 05-13-10
                  • 122

                  #43
                  sometimes when you charge back, you get banned from all books that may use that processor, best thing it could ever happen to you .. go ahead do the charge back!
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                  • tommygun
                    SBR MVP
                    • 07-01-10
                    • 2239

                    #44
                    do the ********** man, do it!
                    BETTING EXCHANGES, easy money.

                    Soccer Tipping: 5-0-1
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                    • justaguy
                      SBR High Roller
                      • 02-28-10
                      • 156

                      #45
                      Haha the OP is two years old. Weird bump.

                      There are definately a lot of scumbags in this thread, though. OP should take some accountablity for his actions and accept that he lost after he lied to bodog. If he had won this thread wouldn't exist.
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                      • DwightShrute
                        SBR Aristocracy
                        • 01-17-09
                        • 103279

                        #46
                        scumbags **********

                        no other way to put it
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                        • mathdotcom
                          SBR Posting Legend
                          • 03-24-08
                          • 11689

                          #47
                          That's brutal man

                          Good luck with your problem, it is probably better to switch to booze
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                          • mcbaseball10
                            SBR MVP
                            • 02-11-09
                            • 2866

                            #48
                            Yeah what an ancient thread to bump. I have to question how OP could have deposited $12k using an ATM card. Most limits on an ATM or debit card are and were far less than this. Hope NatetheGreat is A) Still alive B) Not in jail C) Over his gambling addiction
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                            • skrtelfan
                              SBR MVP
                              • 10-09-08
                              • 1913

                              #49
                              -1000 this thread got bumped by a Bodog rep.
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                              • JoeB
                                SBR High Roller
                                • 05-13-10
                                • 122

                                #50
                                Nate if you do the ********** most likely they'll banne you from the site, which is the best thing it could happen to you anyways!
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                                • M@ximo
                                  Restricted User
                                  • 03-16-10
                                  • 375

                                  #51
                                  I think that you need to be honest with yourself.., you clearly have gambling problem.., so, dont try o take it on them..., and try to fix your personal problems first.
                                  Either way this could happened with any book, not just with them.., this is their bussiness, so, try to understand your gambling issues and get back on your feet.

                                  Best of luck
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                                  • DrStale
                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                    • 12-07-08
                                    • 9692

                                    #52
                                    Really people, take a glance at the dates before you start giving the OP advice.
                                    Originally posted by Dark Horse
                                    If with religion you mean belief system, your belief system is your religion. Again, it matters not what it is. You believe in it, you are loyal to it, would defend it, and yet have no proof of it, other than that, at one point or another, you chose to believe in it. Self-hypnosis. What if there were a snapping of fingers that broke the hypnosis?
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                                    • chachi
                                      SBR MVP
                                      • 02-16-07
                                      • 4571

                                      #53
                                      Originally posted by chachi
                                      holy 'bumping a dusty ancient thread' batman !
                                      Originally posted by DrStale
                                      Really people, take a glance at the dates before you start giving the OP advice.
                                      Indeed, guess my humour went straight over people's heads ... or they weren't fans of the Batman TV show perhaps.
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                                      • youdlike2know
                                        SBR Rookie
                                        • 11-02-10
                                        • 8

                                        #54
                                        geee guys

                                        well if you don't like this guy, your going to HATE me!!...I decided to have my buddy open up a bodog account and fund it with $20.00, then I had another buddy go and open 9 bank accounts, then went and purchased nine computers, 9 gift cards for $25 bucks each. I repeatly tried using the gift cards on 9 different bodog accounts until the sent and email saying I could use my checking account. then I deposited 500 from each bank account into 9 different bodog accounts, after they cleared and the bank accounts were neg 500, we deposited 1500 more from each account, we also open ewalletexspress accounts and funded the poker accounts with that. then we played against the orginal friend and lost every cent to him...yup $22,500.00, after that the 2nd friend went and claimed ID theft and disputed the $2,500 overdrafted from each account. "had to do ewalletexspress last cause they don't verify funds are there and by that time the banks were declining any more charges coming through. The biggest hassel of it was finding open wifi spots with the different computers to log into the different poker accounts and calling friend number one to cordinate a lost...you know telling him my cards and such. It was such a blast and I paid friend one 500 bucks and friend 2 $2000, so I netted 20k for my efforts. Just thought I would drop you guys a line, I had happen to come across this thread while I was doing my research phase. CHEERS!!
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                                        • youdlike2know
                                          SBR Rookie
                                          • 11-02-10
                                          • 8

                                          #55
                                          oh I apologize for my horrific grammer, I some how wasn't giving a shit while pissing you guys off
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                                          • landers781
                                            SBR MVP
                                            • 02-27-09
                                            • 4774

                                            #56
                                            Originally posted by youdlike2know
                                            well if you don't like this guy, your going to HATE me!!...I decided to have my buddy open up a bodog account and fund it with $20.00, then I had another buddy go and open 9 bank accounts, then went and purchased nine computers, 9 gift cards for $25 bucks each. I repeatly tried using the gift cards on 9 different bodog accounts until the sent and email saying I could use my checking account. then I deposited 500 from each bank account into 9 different bodog accounts, after they cleared and the bank accounts were neg 500, we deposited 1500 more from each account, we also open ewalletexspress accounts and funded the poker accounts with that. then we played against the orginal friend and lost every cent to him...yup $22,500.00, after that the 2nd friend went and claimed ID theft and disputed the $2,500 overdrafted from each account. "had to do ewalletexspress last cause they don't verify funds are there and by that time the banks were declining any more charges coming through. The biggest hassel of it was finding open wifi spots with the different computers to log into the different poker accounts and calling friend number one to cordinate a lost...you know telling him my cards and such. It was such a blast and I paid friend one 500 bucks and friend 2 $2000, so I netted 20k for my efforts. Just thought I would drop you guys a line, I had happen to come across this thread while I was doing my research phase. CHEERS!!

                                            Wow openly admitting that much fraud on a public forum


                                            You do realize SBR can find out where you are, and help bodog out on this

                                            Not smart
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                                            • TexansFan
                                              SBR MVP
                                              • 09-06-06
                                              • 3365

                                              #57
                                              I believe you should man up and accept your mistake. Nobody forced you to send them money and lose it. If you had won would you now be asking "should I tell Bodog I have a gambling problem and that they should keep my winnings?"
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                                              • thebettor
                                                SBR Rookie
                                                • 09-20-10
                                                • 41

                                                #58
                                                As my official first post on this forum, I'd like to report youdlike2know to bodog. This is the kind of crap that makes all of us suffer with ID verification for winnings, etc. Bodog has treated me fantastic after a lot of winnings and thousands in payouts in last few months. This clown is ridiculous.
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                                                • landers781
                                                  SBR MVP
                                                  • 02-27-09
                                                  • 4774

                                                  #59
                                                  Originally posted by thebettor
                                                  As my official first post on this forum, I'd like to report youdlike2know to bodog. This is the kind of crap that makes all of us suffer with ID verification for winnings, etc. Bodog has treated me fantastic after a lot of winnings and thousands in payouts in last few months. This clown is ridiculous.
                                                  Im not a fan of bodog, but the fraud he commited is just wrong. Then braggiing about it to a bunch of strangers on the internet is just a dumb move.
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                                                  • thebettor
                                                    SBR Rookie
                                                    • 09-20-10
                                                    • 41

                                                    #60
                                                    I agree. Can SBR do anything about this?
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                                                    • csm506
                                                      SBR MVP
                                                      • 07-10-10
                                                      • 1402

                                                      #61
                                                      Nate get your checks cover the deposit and move on. It sounds classic that you are waiting for someone to do something for you or to you, do not play the victim, clear this last situation and stay in therapy, my experience tells me that once you are away from it for a while it gets a little easier, the feeling never goes away but gets more tolerible to deal with. JUST GET THESE CHECKS FOR 4K AND MOVE ON, do not say they or them it is on you. GL praying for you....
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                                                      • wtt0315
                                                        SBR Hall of Famer
                                                        • 01-18-07
                                                        • 8037

                                                        #62
                                                        Open 9 bank accounts hmm something tells me you are full of crap
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                                                        • trixtrix
                                                          Restricted User
                                                          • 04-13-06
                                                          • 1897

                                                          #63
                                                          you should've offered to pay them back in sbr pts
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                                                          • youdlike2know
                                                            SBR Rookie
                                                            • 11-02-10
                                                            • 8

                                                            #64
                                                            I wasn't but I did

                                                            wasn't going to come back, but I get such a kick out of it, #$%^ bodog, there cheats and pry on those gambling junkies like the who started this thread,....a word to bro, its a real illness don't listen to any f\*g who tells you different, you will destroy your life if you don't get help, back to what I was saying, NO you can't do anything, and neither can bodog, turns out what i did wasn't all that wrong in the first place, don't believe me, call you bank and just ask them what would happen if you lost money gambling and wanted to dispute, without lying to them or anything, they will 100% back you and get your money back, its illegal for them to process any payment in the us, and when they do they do under a money laundering prefix...here read this post from someone else its pretty informative, I don't feel bad at all and I'm 20k richer for it.

                                                            HOW TO ********** ONLINE PKER ROOMS LIKE BODOG, SPORTSBOOK, FULL TILT, AND OTHER ONLINE CAS INOS AND GET YOUR MONEY BACK FROM CROOKS!
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                                                            Having charged back thousands of dollars to date, I'm happy to say that you can get your money back from online cas inos in an easy, legal way. Online gambling is perhaps the most corrupt industry on the web. And clowns like the guy above this post who say you loose your money fair and square is either working for the online cas inos, or are just plain nieve. How do I know? Google "Online pker cheats." Online pker is one of the most corrupt things on the web. There's an entire underground out there meant to lure you in, and steal your money. There are groups of cheaters who band together on forums. There are programs that can predict card values (though I doubt they worK). I don't feel the slightest bit of remorse for taking my money back from the online pker rooms, because they allow it to all go on - as long as they get their rake.

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                                                            SO! DOWN TO THE NITTY GRITTY! HOW TO GET YOUR MONEY BACK FROM THE ONLINE PKER ROOMS AND CAS INOS
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                                                            My Disclaimer: Use the actions detailed in the story below at your own risk. Although, what I am about to divulge has always worked for me, you are responsible for your own actions, and should you choose to mimic any of my actions, any and all risk is your's to bear. I'm just telling you my story of how I've successfully gotten my money back from online cas inos and pker rooms.

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                                                            Here are the main points I've found to be true:
                                                            1) Requesting your credit card company or bank to ********** the online gambling charges is not fraud. You don't have to worry about going to jail or anything like that.
                                                            2) How is it not fraud? "I knew exactly what you were doing," you say? Well, that may be the case, but there's only one party here committing fraud!
                                                            3) How are the online cas inos and pker rooms defrauding you? If you take a gander at your bank statement or credit card statement, you can find the line item charge for the cas ino - just not under the cas ino's name. So let's say for instance you like bodog. Bohog likes to pretend their a telecommunications company called ******, instead of a gambling site. Sportsbook likes to pretend they are a jewelry store (I know hilarious). Well, that's where the online cas inos commit the fraud, because they are essentially laundering the money. Why do the online pker rooms and cas inos do this you ask?
                                                            4) I present to you, the Unlawful Internet Gaming Enforcement Act of 2006. UIGEA is a wonderful piece of legislation (google it if you'd like to learn more). UIGEA basically states that your bank, like Citi, Wachovia (or now Wells Fargo), BkofAma, Capital One, etc is not allowed to process transactions where the merchant's code is for gambling. You see, when you buy something online from say, amazon, the merchant's code will be for merchandise like electronics. Online cas inos are supposed to send a merchant code to the bank that says "This is a charge for online gambling". At that point, the banks silent alarm trips, and says, you guessed it - TRANSACTION DENIED! So, to get around this, online cas ino's lie, or use a shell organization to process your transaction. This shell or fake organization in turn launder's the money, and they pass it along to the actual cas ino. Which is "supposedly" what you gamble with. So, you can now see how the cas ino's are breaking the law! But I'm sure you're wondering where this comes into play when you want to get your money back, right?
                                                            5) Online pker rooms, like bodog and sportsbook, leave themselves wide open because of this lie they tell your bank. The cas inos KNOW there are going to be chargebacks by breaking US laws, so I'm sure they incorporate this cost into the rake you pay (not me - I don't gamble anymore!). One of their virtual tables can make what a doctor in the US makes 24 hours a day, 7 days a week. Now, multiply that times 5000 tables, and you've got yourself a pretty substantial & lucrative reason to break US law. The online cas inos made one mistake, and it's a big one for anyone who knows the banking industry. Lucky for you, that's me!
                                                            6) The banks, believe it or not, are on your side. I know when I first called up citi, I was paranoid about committing fraud, lying, jail, etc. Here's one bit of advice. Be upfront and honest with them. You don't have to lie. I told citi exactly what the charges were for - online gambling. The banks hate being taken advantage of by the online cas inos as much as we do. Put the banks to work for you! Now here's the real kicker, and how you get your money back (I know, I've been beating around the bush, so here it is!)
                                                            7) The company on your credit card statement isn't anyone you've ever done business with before. Remember, it's a shell organization because it's the only way a cas ino can get your charges approved. It is the 100% truth that that is an unauthorized charge. You've never spoken to anyone or ordered anything from that company - the company you placed your order with was Bohog, Sportsbook, or any of the other online cheats - not the shell company. So, when you call into the bank, take the following steps:
                                                            A) Tell the customer service rep you would like to report some unauthorized charges on your account. The charges will likely have to post to your account, and some take a few days.
                                                            B) The CSR will transfer you to the fraud department - don't worry, they are there to help you!
                                                            C) The CSR in the fraud dept will ask you some questions to verify your account.
                                                            D) At that point, you say to the CSR, "I would like to report some transactions that appear suspect. I have never dealt with the company, <insert> before, nor have I received any merchandise from them. Can you tell me what the merchant code says I purchased just to make sure?"
                                                            E) The CSR will say it is for something like jewelry or phone card or some other bs that the cas ino is impersonating.
                                                            F) At that point, you say, "Well, I think I would remember buying $500 worth of jewelry from someone overseas. I can honestly say, 100% proof positive, I've never ordered anything from this merchant before, I don't recognize their name, nor have I received anything from them."
                                                            G) **Optional Step** - Usually, that is all you have to tell them. The first time I did it, I wanted to make sure what I was doing was 100% legal. So after telling the CSR that, I said, "I can assure you I've never dealt with that company before." I said, "It's funny though, I did go online and play some pker with bodog, but that charge never showed up? The charge amount for this thing is/almost is identical, but if it were for the online cas ino, the merchant code wouldn't say it was for Jewelry. Besides, a buddy of mine said it was illegal for banks to process online gambling transactions." As soon as the bank hears that it may be an online cas ino, they know exactly what to do. They do it every day! In fact, when I spoke with citi's awesome operators, they told me just that. I asked, "So do you guys get these types of calls alot?", and the CSR replied, "Oh, yes. We see them all the time. I'm sure we'll be able to get that money returned to your account, Mr. Smith." I was elated when I heard the good news.
                                                            H) At this point, the CSR will likely tell you they are going to mail you an affidavit to sign stating that these were unauthorized charges. I was told by the CSR at Citi that you can sign it and it is the 100% truth, and you don't have to worry about commiting perjury. It's the god's honest truth. You did your business with Bohog - NOT *****. The only thing you even slightly recognize is possibly the charge amount, and that does nothing to help identify past business dealings with this company. Therefore, ******* charges are unauthorized, and your bank will get your money back from the merchant account of the cas ino masquerading as a jewelry boutique.

                                                            Citi put the money back in my account immeidately. It became finalized after their investigation in about 4-6 weeks.

                                                            I make no apologies. I've given online cas inos a 6 figure pay day because of a gambling addiction I haven't been able to overcome. Taking back some of what I've lost online is what I consider well overdue comps, and a mere fraction of the money I will never see again.

                                                            A BIG NOTE: I do not condone taking your money back from the cas inos if you do not have a gambling addiction. An addict cannot control his/her actions. A non addict sees gambling for what it is - entertainment. Furthermore, if you are an addict, don't view this as a get out of free jail card. I don't use it all the time. Infact, I have only used it during those times when I went over board, and couldn't afford what I had lost - like when I couldn't make my house payment. I lost $400 last month, and didn't charge it back, because I was able to stop myself from going overboard, and letting that $400 become $1400. Let your conscious be your guide, as they say. Good Luck!
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                                                            • youdlike2know
                                                              SBR Rookie
                                                              • 11-02-10
                                                              • 8

                                                              #65
                                                              there is nine different banks within a mile of you that would love your business, but believe what you want
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                                                              • BeatTheJerk
                                                                BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                                • 08-19-07
                                                                • 31794

                                                                #66
                                                                Scumbag f u c khead.
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                                                                • youdlike2know
                                                                  SBR Rookie
                                                                  • 11-02-10
                                                                  • 8

                                                                  #67
                                                                  Originally posted by BeatTheJerk
                                                                  Scumbag f u c khead.

                                                                  awwwwww lol
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                                                                  • flyingillini
                                                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                                                    • 12-06-06
                                                                    • 41219

                                                                    #68
                                                                    You should start to do some A1 Yola.
                                                                    המוסד‎
                                                                    המוסד למודיעין ולתפקידים מיוחדים‎
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                                                                    • bluefish
                                                                      SBR Wise Guy
                                                                      • 04-13-09
                                                                      • 917

                                                                      #69
                                                                      This is some funny shit and happens everyday. Thanks for the outline, but I'm sure a lot already incorperate it.
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                                                                      • BeatTheJerk
                                                                        BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                                        • 08-19-07
                                                                        • 31794

                                                                        #70
                                                                        Originally posted by youdlike2know
                                                                        awwwwww lol
                                                                        Sick degenerate low life.
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