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  • The Seer
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 10-29-07
    • 10641

    #1
    not sure why all of the love for Cowher
    I guess the grass is always greener on the other side. I'm NOT SAYING he is a bad coach but he is no Vince Lombardi. It took Cowher 14 years to win the Superbowl after some major chokes in the playoffs with superior teams, especially vs New England & San Diego. The lone Superbowl win was the most lopsided reffed game in SB history with every call in favor of Pitt. The next season with a Superbowl team he went 8-8 & retired. At that rate, Tomlin is a better coach, so is Gruden and even Tom Coughlin (who people want him to replace). I do think he would be an upgrade in Houston. However, Miami needs a QB, not a new head coach. Nobody can keep Chad Henne from being a disaster and he wouldn't do any better than Coughlin at NY. Sure, Cowher won a Superbowl & you can't take that away from him but so have some other guys out there.

    If you want to see his record: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Co...oaching_record
  • The Seer
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 10-29-07
    • 10641

    #2
    I found these interesting too. Apparently, I'm not the only one. Some examples:

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    • big0mar
      SBR MVP
      • 01-09-09
      • 3374

      #3
      Cowher is vastly overrated.

      I disagree with you on Gruden though. I think he's just as overrated.
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      • The Seer
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        • 10-29-07
        • 10641

        #4
        Originally posted by big0mar
        Cowher is vastly overrated. I disagree with you on Gruden though. I think he's just as overrated.
        I'm just saying at that rate, Gruden would be better. Gruden did resurrect the Raiders which was a feat though.
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        • lyon804
          SBR Hall of Famer
          • 11-02-09
          • 6526

          #5
          Couldn't agree more... Cowher is giving alot of credit due to his noticable passion. Guy is a nut on the sidelines with all of his spitting and slobbering when his team makes a big play. All BS aside Tomlin has enjoyed really just as much or more success than Cowher.

          NY probably will run Coughlin at some point soon, but I am not sure it is warranted. As good as NY is they really just have some lemons.

          Coaching as you know is tough business... Coaches usually get too much blame and not enough credit.
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          • big0mar
            SBR MVP
            • 01-09-09
            • 3374

            #6
            Originally posted by The Seer
            I'm just saying at that rate, Gruden would be better. Gruden did resurrect the Raiders which was a feat though.
            Certainly true. From what I gather though, it seems like Gruden isn't a favorite of his players. He would make a great college coach in my opinion, because he is the type that doesnt like keeping players around more than a few years. He also seems to me as the type thats more concerned with designing offensive schemes, not necessarily building a football team.
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            • doublej95
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              • 01-26-10
              • 14094

              #7
              I would not want Cowher coming to my team. I do think he is somewhat overrated, but I think the desire might have left him. He can say yeah I want to come back and coach but till he gets there and goes through the everyday grind I think he will miss his easy life that he has now. He quit the game to spend time with his family and working as a tv guy does not take that much time away from the family life.
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              • jjgold
                SBR Aristocracy
                • 07-20-05
                • 388179

                #8
                Basically just a new face and he has won

                Thats all
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                • thecodster
                  SBR High Roller
                  • 11-09-10
                  • 148

                  #9
                  the coach only makes the calls, he cant run the plays also
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                  • THE PROFIT
                    SBR Posting Legend
                    • 11-27-09
                    • 17701

                    #10
                    Originally posted by The Seer
                    I'm just saying at that rate, Gruden would be better. Gruden did resurrect the Raiders which was a feat though.
                    Gruden made the raiders a SB caliber team & then beat them in a SB, so thats a lot better than what Cowher did.

                    Gruden basically made 2 SB teams out of mediocre clubs, took one to the SB & beat the other one
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                    • Whippit
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                      • 04-29-10
                      • 3065

                      #11
                      I ran a simulator with Cowher as head coach of my son's Church soccer team

                      according to the simuations, coach Cowher adds 3-4 wins against ethinc kids from Julio's Garage & Gashouse Gorrillas

                      for football, I'd expect to magnify these results
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                      • THE PROFIT
                        SBR Posting Legend
                        • 11-27-09
                        • 17701

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Whippit
                        I ran a simulator with Cowher as head coach of my son's Church soccer team

                        according to the simuations, coach Cowher adds 3-4 wins against ethinc kids from Julio's Garage & Gashouse Gorrillas

                        for football, I'd expect to magnify these results


                        thats good shit
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                        • dovlon
                          SBR High Roller
                          • 11-04-10
                          • 122

                          #13
                          Yeah, everyone in NY wants Cowher. Though I am a Giants fan, I think Coughlin is a great coach and like Coughlin he has one ring. We want a disciplined team and Cowher is that type of coach.
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                          • CanuckG
                            SBR Posting Legend
                            • 12-23-10
                            • 21978

                            #14
                            Mike Holmgren when he was available before taking the Cleveland Browns as President, was the best choice...much better than Cowher or Gruden. Not many GREAT coaches available, but there are plenty of GOOD ones.
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                            • TexansFan
                              SBR MVP
                              • 09-06-06
                              • 3365

                              #15
                              Has to be better than Kubiak.
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                              • Living The Dream
                                SBR MVP
                                • 12-23-09
                                • 4521

                                #16
                                I dont want Cowher, I am a Giants fan and i still have all the respect in the world for Coughlin.. The man won the greatest Superbowl in history, we all need to remember that!!
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                                • gryfyn1
                                  SBR MVP
                                  • 03-30-10
                                  • 3285

                                  #17
                                  I nevr got why teams are so enamored with coaches that did well elsewhere and are willing to pay huge sums for them --

                                  -- It so rarely works out; there's a reason that only two possible playoff teams (New England and Seattle, and neither of them had and success in the NFL previously) have coaches on their 1st head coaching job.
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                                  • jackpot269
                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                    • 09-24-07
                                    • 12842

                                    #18
                                    Seer you know that all the coach that go out when on top get the high marks if you stay around long enough your going to be in a slump go out on top thats what short memories remember the last year or few years !!!!!!!
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                                    • 20Four7
                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                      • 04-08-07
                                      • 6703

                                      #19
                                      As much as I like Cowher, I would take Gruden any day of the week. I would take a retard in the booth if that means Theisman gets out.
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                                      • WvGambler
                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                        • 04-19-10
                                        • 11618

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by Whippit
                                        I ran a simulator with Cowher as head coach of my son's Church soccer team according to the simuations, coach Cowher adds 3-4 wins against ethinc kids from Julio's Garage & Gashouse Gorrillas for football, I'd expect to magnify these results
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                                        • ebbearsfb1
                                          SBR Posting Legend
                                          • 12-07-08
                                          • 18815

                                          #21
                                          as a die heart steeler fan... cowher is not really that good of a coach his teams choked throughout the 90's in the playoffs. and until he got a good quarterback he was nothing special.. granted a guy like ben could make any coach look good....

                                          but i still think tomlin is a better coach then cowher... maybe cowher could get a team like the texans to the next step... but he won't go to miami or carolina ne of those do-do teams
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                                          • Living The Dream
                                            SBR MVP
                                            • 12-23-09
                                            • 4521

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by jackpot269
                                            Seer you know that all the coach that go out when on top get the high marks if you stay around long enough your going to be in a slump go out on top thats what short memories remember the last year or few years !!!!!!!
                                            Well Cowher went out on a 8-8 record
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                                            • beach nut
                                              SBR Wise Guy
                                              • 03-18-09
                                              • 589

                                              #23
                                              Bill Cowher's record as a head coach is 149-90-1 for the regular season and 12-9 for the playoffs. The guy is a winner.
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                                              • ronjon619
                                                SBR MVP
                                                • 09-06-09
                                                • 3675

                                                #24
                                                Cowher took over for a legend in Chuck Knoll in the early 90's. The Steelers were not very good in the late 80's and early 90's. He brought youth and life to that team with a tough blitzing defense that still lives on there. Greg Llyod and Kevin Greene became superstars at the OLB position because of him. I think Cowher is legit.
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                                                • ryanjep
                                                  SBR MVP
                                                  • 12-09-08
                                                  • 2556

                                                  #25
                                                  i would take cowher over gruden but both would be good picks if you needed a new head coach
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                                                  • StraitShooter
                                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                                    • 07-22-09
                                                    • 10464

                                                    #26
                                                    all I know is tony sporano is a fuken jinx. every time they show him doing a fist pump the next play is disaster for miami. this sob has got to go!
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                                                    • TrapperDapper
                                                      SBR Wise Guy
                                                      • 08-20-10
                                                      • 502

                                                      #27
                                                      I would prefer Gruden over Cowher tbh.
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