Won 3 of 4 legs, Betphoenix cancells wager

**james4512** · 12-26-10, 07:13 PM

they cancelled it before all those games started you probably just didnt realize it

**Crash** · 12-26-10, 07:15 PM

and if they didnt not much you can do about it sorry gl

**durito** · 12-26-10, 07:16 PM

is there a rule on "super teasers" that all games have to be played?

if not it should have been reduced to a 3 teamer, file a complaint

**BatemanPatrickl** · 12-26-10, 07:17 PM

Originally posted by KingKolzig

Superteaser SF +15.5 win o26.5 win Jets/Bears o23.5 win Eagles -1.5 CANCELLED i went on to live chat and explained that the rules page does not address this situation and that had any of the earlier games lost it would have automatically been graded a loser (has happened to me before at BP). I feel this bet should simply stand. its just a delay. they set up a little catch-22 here. bs

KingKolStiff the 31 year old loser that lives with his retired parents in an active adult community located in Central Florida and lies about having a girlfriend and going back to 31 deserves to be stiffed on every he makes. The guy is a liar and has no clue how to bet on sports. What happened to his TCU and Boise State National Champs props??? Took those down real quick.

**WvGambler** · 12-26-10, 07:18 PM

Originally posted by durito

it should have been reduced to a 3 teamer, file a complaint

I dont think you can, because he did a sweetheart +13 point teaser. You can only get that many points by choosing 4 teams. At least I think this is what happened.

**KingKolzig** · 12-26-10, 07:18 PM

Originally posted by durito

is there a rule on "super teasers" that all games have to be played?

if not it should have been reduced to a 3 teamer, file a complaint

their rules page is weak. no specific rules on superteasers. but the snow emergency was called after the 1pm games had already started. bs. i know how their software works, it determines a loser of the entire parlay right when the first team loses. catch-22 if SF didnt cover

**durito** · 12-26-10, 07:20 PM

Originally posted by WvGambler

I dont think you can, because he did a sweetheart +13 point teaser. You can only get that many points by choosing 4 teams. At least I think this is what happened.

ok, are the rules ties lose?

if so, then it's probably best for him they canceled as opposed to calling the phi game a tie and giving him a loss.

**KingKolzig** · 12-26-10, 07:23 PM

Originally posted by durito

ok, are the rules ties lose?

if so, then it's probably best for him they canceled as opposed to calling the phi game a tie and giving him a loss.

"Special Teasers: Any Tie is considered a Loss"

that is the only rule that BP has on superteasers. says nothing about delayed games. this game has not been played. any movement of the line can both hurt or help the book............also says nothing about cancelled games (debatable cause its not cancelled)

**BatemanPatrickl** · 12-26-10, 07:23 PM

Originally posted by durito

ok, are the rules ties lose? if so, then it's probably best for him they canceled as opposed to calling the phi game a tie and giving him a loss.

Guy won't give you en educated answer; he likes to play doctor and lie about attending college.

**Jonah** · 12-26-10, 07:36 PM

They canceled all Eagles contests correct? Are they allowed to do that?

**bigugly** · 12-26-10, 07:39 PM

Sounds like the right thing to do would be to cancel the wager whether any games had been played or not.

**KingKolzig** · 12-26-10, 07:57 PM

Originally posted by james4512

they cancelled it before all those games started you probably just didnt realize it

game was graded no action after my winner on Miami 1h 020.5 was graded............BP doesnt time stamp it. id have to assume the 1pm games were almost or totally finished. total catch-22

**skrtelfan** · 12-26-10, 07:58 PM

I'm sure they have something elsewhere in their rules that games must be played on the date in question. Since 13 point teasers usually don't reduce any lower than 4, they're correct to cancel your teaser, but they're also correct to cancel losing teasers. In other words, all 4 team teasers involving the MIN/PHI game should be canceled regardless of the results of the other games.

**KingKolzig** · 12-26-10, 08:03 PM

Originally posted by skrtelfan

I'm sure they have something elsewhere in their rules that games must be played on the date in question. Since 13 point teasers usually don't reduce any lower than 4, they're correct to cancel your teaser, but they're also correct to cancel losing teasers. In other words, all 4 team teasers involving the MIN/PHI game should be canceled regardless of the results of the other games.

they just dont have rules on this posted. but i do know that they instantly grade superteasers a loss when one team doesnt cover. so i could have lost this bet, but i never could have won it. basically i won 3 games for a push. had i lost any of them i would be out $

**Footballtime** · 12-26-10, 08:05 PM

All games usually have to be made up within 24 or completed within 24 hours, neither can be done since the game isnt scheduled till tuesday night, therefore wont be played or completed before then, Get over it and move on....................... 13 point teaser, LOL, whats that 15 to win 10 dollars??????? FBT

**Justin7** · 12-26-10, 08:24 PM

If a teaser reduces below the minimum number of games, it should be no action.

Your super teaser needed exactly 4 games. The 4th leg was no action due to the cancellation. BP correctly voided the entire wager. If you had a super teaser with a canceled selection that was graded as a loser (because one of the other 3 legs lost), you could cry foul.

**urge2kill** · 12-26-10, 08:32 PM

Bodog cancelled mine before the games began today.

**DeeWizzle** · 12-26-10, 08:37 PM

Tough break. Damn snow!

**KingKolzig** · 12-26-10, 08:38 PM

Originally posted by Justin7

If a teaser reduces below the minimum number of games, it should be no action.

Your super teaser needed exactly 4 games. The 4th leg was no action due to the cancellation. BP correctly voided the entire wager. If you had a super teaser with a canceled selection that was graded as a loser (because one of the other 3 legs lost), you could cry foul.

would be nice if they posted these "standard rules". nevermind the fact that the game will be played.....i wonder how many players have lost the first leg of a superteaser in this situation, have the bet graded a loss and then move on cause common sense tells them to do so. of course the last game gets moved to 48 hours later but the bet has been graded a loss, becuase BP grades teaser losses right away. disguised catch-22

**KingKolzig** · 12-26-10, 08:39 PM

its very simple. if the fate of the last leg is that the game will be delayed you can only lose ur bet, you can never win.

**bigugly** · 12-26-10, 08:43 PM

I guess you're done betting those then. Good job.

**saints7011** · 12-26-10, 08:45 PM

o/u on the number of times he says "catch 22" ?

**BatemanPatrickl** · 12-26-10, 08:46 PM

Originally posted by Footballtime

All games usually have to be made up within 24 or completed within 24 hours, neither can be done since the game isnt scheduled till tuesday night, therefore wont be played or completed before then, Get over it and move on....................... 13 point teaser, LOL, whats that 15 to win 10 dollars??????? FBT

Exactly; don't worry King Kolzig is a professional doctor. He lacks a bachelor's degree and medical school but being 31 and living with mommy and daddy makes him an expert on psychiatry.

**sharpcat** · 12-26-10, 08:46 PM

You said yourself that when you logged in at halftime of the 1:00 games they had already cancelled the wager but never specify if you logged in before the 1:00 games started. If the wagers were cancelled when you checked at halftime they did not wait until the final results of the games.

I know you are upset but all bets on that game at all books were cancelled and since a 4-team super teaser can not reduce to 3-teams your teaser was cancelled.

**BatemanPatrickl** · 12-26-10, 08:47 PM

**KingKolzig** · 12-26-10, 08:51 PM

Originally posted by sharpcat

You said yourself that when you logged in at halftime of the 1:00 games they had already cancelled the wager but never specify if you logged in before the 1:00 games started. If the wagers were cancelled when you checked at halftime they did not wait until the final results of the games.

I know you are upset but all bets on that game at all books were cancelled and since a 4-team super teaser can not reduce to 3-teams your teaser was cancelled.

NFL didnt announce the delay until after the 1pm games started

**mikejamm** · 12-26-10, 08:52 PM

Originally posted by BatemanPatrickl

Exactly; don't worry King Kolzig is a professional doctor. He lacks a bachelor's degree and medical school but being 31 and living with mommy and daddy makes him an expert on psychiatry.

======================
Bateman on a roll!

**KingKolzig** · 12-26-10, 08:54 PM

Originally posted by sharpcat

You said yourself that when you logged in at halftime of the 1:00 games they had already cancelled the wager but never specify if you logged in before the 1:00 games started. If the wagers were cancelled when you checked at halftime they did not wait until the final results of the games.

I know you are upset but all bets on that game at all books were cancelled and since a 4-team super teaser can not reduce to 3-teams your teaser was cancelled.

i get that. im saying its unfair to the ppl who have lost an earlier leg. they would have no idea that it should be refunded cause BP grades the games immediately. and if an early leg losses, the entire wager loses.

**BatemanPatrickl** · 12-26-10, 08:54 PM

Originally posted by mikejamm

====================== Bateman on a roll!

Not hard to call this stiff out he has been stalking me since he was released from the pysch ward. Guy is 31, lives with mommy on a RETIREMENT community, drives a golf cart around and lies about going back to Florida State and about having a girlfriend.

**sharpcat** · 12-26-10, 08:54 PM

Originally posted by KingKolzig

NFL didnt announce the delay until after the 1pm games started

Well there you have it

4-team super teaser does not reduce to a 3-teamer bet cancelled.

**yisman** · 12-26-10, 09:05 PM

Originally posted by KingKolzig

NFL didnt announce the delay until after the 1pm games started

Not true. News broke at about 12:15 PM EST, 45 minutes before kickoff.

**MartinBlank** · 12-26-10, 09:13 PM

Yis is right. The postponement was announced at 1215. Not after the 1PM games started.

This is an easy one. It should have been graded as "No Action" and it was.

**Kaabee** · 12-26-10, 09:34 PM

yep, saw on espn.com postponed by the eagles score before early games had started

**Cicima6709** · 12-26-10, 09:45 PM

tough beak...