Which is better: $350 Cash or $750 Freeplay

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  • BChrisB
    SBR Wise Guy
    • 01-19-10
    • 709

    #106
    Originally posted by RudyRuetigger
    if you dont know what you are talking about, dont talk
    LOL, and like your "all knowing?"
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    • RudyRuetigger
      SBR Aristocracy
      • 08-24-10
      • 65107

      #107
      Originally posted by BChrisB
      LOL, and like your "all knowing?"


      and really, if you don't know what you are talking about quit giving shitty advice.

      thanks
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      • BChrisB
        SBR Wise Guy
        • 01-19-10
        • 709

        #108
        Originally posted by RudyRuetigger


        and really, if you don't know what you are talking about quit giving shitty advice.

        thanks
        Any your advice is so superior???
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        • Hareeba!
          BARRELED IN @ SBR!
          • 07-01-06
          • 32902

          #109
          Originally posted by louis.ana
          Hmm, this is close.. but I think the freeplay is better.
          Let's say your unit size is $50, playing straight you can make:
          - 7 plays with the cash
          - 15 plays with the freeplay

          also, let's assume you win every play you make at -110 (1.91 decimal scale):

          cash:
          7 plays x 1.91 = 13.37 units;
          13.37 x $50 = $668.50

          freeplay:
          15 plays x 1.91 = 28.65 units;
          28.65 - 15(freeplay) = 13.65;
          13.65 x $50 = $682.50

          You are looking at a 2% advantage with the freeplay.
          but if you have a FP, that certainly isn't the way to use it
          worth far more than a 2% advantage played correctly
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          • RudyRuetigger
            SBR Aristocracy
            • 08-24-10
            • 65107

            #110
            Originally posted by BChrisB
            Any your advice is so superior???
            far superior to any nonsense you threw in this thread.

            i give which is better. its your job to figure out why.

            HINT: There are a few reasons in this thread as to why
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            • pronk
              Restricted User
              • 11-22-08
              • 6887

              #111
              Turning $50 free play into $750 is piece of cake to me.
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              • BChrisB
                SBR Wise Guy
                • 01-19-10
                • 709

                #112
                Originally posted by pronk
                Turning $50 free play into $750 is piece of cake to me.
                Hand some of that cake over then
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                • BChrisB
                  SBR Wise Guy
                  • 01-19-10
                  • 709

                  #113
                  Originally posted by RudyRuetigger
                  far superior to any nonsense you threw in this thread.

                  i give which is better. its your job to figure out why.

                  HINT: There are a few reasons in this thread as to why
                  Your first post in this thread:

                  freeplay ainec
                  Your second:
                  [COLOR=#000000 ! important] let me rephrase: if you have no clue what you are doing, its the cash

                  if you have a bit of sense, or any clue as to how to use the "search" function or google, then freeplays
                  [/color]
                  Your third:

                  [COLOR=#000000 ! important] WOW After my post I woke up to 80 replies. I knew this thread had to be a classic. Did not disappoint[/color]
                  Your fourth:
                  these threads pop up once a month or so and its a good way to point out the posters who don't have a clue
                  Your fifth:
                  if you dont know what you are talking about, dont talk
                  Your sixth:

                  show me where i said how to do it in this thread?

                  besides if you want to hedge a moneyline bet, the book doesnt know you are doing that.
                  Your seventh:

                  and really, if you don't know what you are talking about quit giving shitty advice.

                  thanks
                  Your eight:

                  far superior to any nonsense you threw in this thread.

                  i give which is better. its your job to figure out why.

                  HINT: There are a few reasons in this thread as to why
                  So what have you even said here? What advice have your really given? What constructive input did you provide? You said so much of absolutely nothing !!!
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                  • Bartmeister
                    Restricted User
                    • 09-10-10
                    • 412

                    #114
                    Originally posted by louis.ana
                    Hmm, this is close.. but I think the freeplay is better.
                    Let's say your unit size is $50, playing straight you can make:
                    - 7 plays with the cash
                    - 15 plays with the freeplay

                    also, let's assume you win every play you make at -110 (1.91 decimal scale):

                    cash:
                    7 plays x 1.91 = 13.37 units;
                    13.37 x $50 = $668.50

                    freeplay:
                    15 plays x 1.91 = 28.65 units;
                    28.65 - 15(freeplay) = 13.65;
                    13.65 x $50 = $682.50

                    You are looking at a 2% advantage with the freeplay.
                    Nobody with a clue would ever use their freeplay on a straight at -110 odds. (And the chance of winning 15 bets in a row is slim and none). Thats just throwing money away. Doing the simple (8) 3-team parlays, betting all sides of 3 games = guaranteed 75% cash ($562.50) with no risk whatsoever. Why is it so hard for some people to understand?
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                    • Hareeba!
                      BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                      • 07-01-06
                      • 32902

                      #115
                      Originally posted by BChrisB
                      Your first post in this threa

                      So what have you even said here? What advice have your really given? What constructive input did you provide? You said so much of absolutely nothing !!!
                      so why is it you can't see what everyone else can?
                      i.e. he's very clearly advised the FP (except if you have NFI how to use it advantageously)
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                      • RudyRuetigger
                        SBR Aristocracy
                        • 08-24-10
                        • 65107

                        #116
                        nvm
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                        • BChrisB
                          SBR Wise Guy
                          • 01-19-10
                          • 709

                          #117
                          Originally posted by Hareeba!
                          so why is it you can't see what everyone else can?
                          i.e. he's very clearly advised the FP (except if you have NFI how to use it advantageously)
                          It has nothing to do with the fact that advised the FP. However, rather than constructively state as to why, he acted like an authority without any back-up. Furthermore, attacked others opinions against the FP without any statistical and/or numerical backing.
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                          • RudyRuetigger
                            SBR Aristocracy
                            • 08-24-10
                            • 65107

                            #118
                            Originally posted by BChrisB
                            It has nothing to do with the fact that advised the FP. However, rather than constructively state as to why, he acted like an authority without any back-up. Furthermore, attacked others opinions against the FP without any statistical and/or numerical backing.
                            i wrote it, and i hope you got it because bigdaddy is spot on. i see no need to help people that are too lazy to look for themselves.

                            if 90% of people say freeplay and you say cash, maybe you should fukkin look into it more deeply instead of going after someone. its not my job to spoon feed you.



                            i think from now on lets just all say cash
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                            • Bartmeister
                              Restricted User
                              • 09-10-10
                              • 412

                              #119
                              Originally posted by louis.ana
                              Hmm, this is close.. but I think the freeplay is better.
                              Let's say your unit size is $50, playing straight you can make:
                              - 7 plays with the cash
                              - 15 plays with the freeplay

                              also, let's assume you win every play you make at -110 (1.91 decimal scale):

                              cash:
                              7 plays x 1.91 = 13.37 units;
                              13.37 x $50 = $668.50

                              freeplay:
                              15 plays x 1.91 = 28.65 units;
                              28.65 - 15(freeplay) = 13.65;
                              13.65 x $50 = $682.50

                              You are looking at a 2% advantage with the freeplay.
                              Your 2% advantage is TOTALLY WRONG! The guaranteed $562.50 (75% of the $750 FP) is 100% guaranteed. Again, betting (8) 3 team parlays of $93.75 each (ALL SIDES of 3 games) at 6-1 odds pays you $562.50 guaranteed and you can care less who wins or loses, go to sleep, there will be $562.50 cashed placed in your account when the games end.
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                              • Hareeba!
                                BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                • 07-01-06
                                • 32902

                                #120
                                Originally posted by BChrisB
                                It has nothing to do with the fact that advised the FP. However, rather than constructively state as to why, he acted like an authority without any back-up. Furthermore, attacked others opinions against the FP without any statistical and/or numerical backing.
                                you asked the question: "what advice have you really given?"

                                as I stated he gave advice ... and it is the correct advice

                                statstical or numerical back up????
                                FFS .. is it necessary to spell out in detail the precise steps to make the smart play every time? There are any number of easy to find references to that including in this thread with plenty of stats and numbers quoted.

                                as I asked before why is it you can't see what most of the rest of us can?
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                                • HedgeHog
                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                  • 09-11-07
                                  • 10128

                                  #121
                                  This entire thread should be moved to the Think Tank. The Geeks deserve a laugh too.
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                                  • sportsfun
                                    SBR MVP
                                    • 11-05-05
                                    • 1055

                                    #122
                                    probably freepay, like getting double!
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                                    • Legions36
                                      SBR MVP
                                      • 12-17-10
                                      • 3032

                                      #123
                                      FREEPLay for that amount...but i like cash better
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                                      • Cookie Monster
                                        SBR MVP
                                        • 12-05-08
                                        • 2251

                                        #124
                                        Really funny thread. A serious point: Check the rollover calculations with the freeplay. Betonline rollover for a FP is the higher amount of FP value and won amount. So, if you split the FP into parlays, the rollover would be the deposit + 7 * $93.75 (for the parlays lost) + $562.50 (for the one won). Still the FP is worth more than the cash, but wort considering.
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                                        • yobinad
                                          SBR Sharp
                                          • 06-26-09
                                          • 332

                                          #125
                                          Free play it's better.
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                                          • dialup_king
                                            SBR High Roller
                                            • 09-08-08
                                            • 156

                                            #126
                                            Originally posted by HedgeHog
                                            Even if you're limited to 2-team parlays, FP still beats cash easily. Pick any two games (preferably ones that fall on the 1/2 point to avoid pushes) and bet all 4 possibilities equally. In this case, divide your $750 FP into four parlays at $187.50 each. One of them has to win and assuming a standard 2.6:1 payout, nets you $487.50 (187.5 x 2.6 = 487.5). Obviously this is better than $350 cash.
                                            The book can profile you as a sharp if you do this.
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                                            • CrimsonQueen
                                              SBR MVP
                                              • 08-12-09
                                              • 1068

                                              #127
                                              Wow... this was the greatest laugh I've had in a while.

                                              Just...wow. It's been spelled out a couple times in this thread and yet no one bothers to read before posting.

                                              Pretty obvious answer here... can't believe all the people who not only think this is wrong, but are actually willing to FIGHT and start arguments that cash is better!

                                              Agreed though, that it shouldn't be spelled out any further for the lazy... and let's all just agree that cash is better!
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                                              • davidchong
                                                SBR MVP
                                                • 02-10-06
                                                • 1806

                                                #128
                                                can you do that?.... does the book permit that?


                                                Originally posted by Bartmeister
                                                Nobody with a clue would ever use their freeplay on a straight at -110 odds. (And the chance of winning 15 bets in a row is slim and none). Thats just throwing money away. Doing the simple (8) 3-team parlays, betting all sides of 3 games = guaranteed 75% cash ($562.50) with no risk whatsoever. Why is it so hard for some people to understand?
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                                                • BChrisB
                                                  SBR Wise Guy
                                                  • 01-19-10
                                                  • 709

                                                  #129
                                                  Originally posted by davidchong
                                                  can you do that?.... does the book permit that?
                                                  I know with Bookmaker's platform it won't let you round robin them w/ a FB, but If you put them all in manually I don't see why not.
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                                                  • Sawyer
                                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                                    • 06-01-09
                                                    • 7792

                                                    #130
                                                    Originally posted by Nicky Santoro
                                                    forget $750 FP... even $500 FP is better than 350 cash..
                                                    Why Nicky?
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                                                    • alka07
                                                      SBR Sharp
                                                      • 10-04-09
                                                      • 441

                                                      #131
                                                      cash is the real her, i hate free play when you dont get the money you bet on the game
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                                                      • gangeriver
                                                        SBR MVP
                                                        • 12-23-09
                                                        • 2138

                                                        #132
                                                        Originally posted by Sawyer

                                                        Why Nicky?
                                                        C'mon man!
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                                                        • HedgeHog
                                                          SBR Posting Legend
                                                          • 09-11-07
                                                          • 10128

                                                          #133
                                                          Originally posted by Sawyer
                                                          Why Nicky?
                                                          $550 FP is worth $375 cash, edging out $350.
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                                                          • dherd
                                                            SBR Wise Guy
                                                            • 03-21-09
                                                            • 631

                                                            #134
                                                            i ll take the cash any time.
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                                                            • AMBlai01
                                                              SBR Hall of Famer
                                                              • 09-16-08
                                                              • 5882

                                                              #135
                                                              The fact that this thread has gone on for this long is unreal...
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                                                              • captrobey
                                                                BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                                • 09-02-10
                                                                • 34395

                                                                #136
                                                                I think i would take he cash
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                                                                • 20Four7
                                                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                  • 04-08-07
                                                                  • 6703

                                                                  #137
                                                                  Take the free play. Even if you play it badly it will give you the best opportunity to win. PS you don't make 3 $50 straight bets.
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                                                                  • Metanoia
                                                                    SBR MVP
                                                                    • 12-20-10
                                                                    • 2102

                                                                    #138
                                                                    Freeplay is so obvious
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                                                                    • ejfel01
                                                                      SBR Sharp
                                                                      • 06-17-10
                                                                      • 301

                                                                      #139
                                                                      Cash play for sure.
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                                                                      • Trucker George
                                                                        SBR High Roller
                                                                        • 01-09-10
                                                                        • 194

                                                                        #140
                                                                        This is from their bonus page. I see credit card only with a ten time roll on the re-up, and a $250 max bonus with six times roll on the new sign ups. (click the image to embiggen)

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