Sbr Ratings

[SSLP]

I am posting this thread in the most respectful way possible.
Just to clear this out I am no way involved directly with any sportsbook I am just an affiliate my days working at sportsbook are long over.

Over the course of time I have heard about Bill Dozers hidden agenda with sportsbooks or rumors about him taking bribes , some around here in town even claim they got proof.

My question is to SBR management is this true I have always come to respect this forum greatly as it is for the players and its a great way to help players out but , I tried asking Mr. Dozer that again earlier this month and he failed to respond.

Why sportsbooks of the like of Bodog.com , BetCris etc have such good ratings when all you hear is nothing but problems with them specially bodog which book in the world deserves good ratings after sending thousands of bad checks and putting their players through the shame of trying to cash in a check with no funds...


I am not in any ways trying to cause any drama but SBRs MO is to be good with a site as long as Bill Dozers is getting something out of it.

There have been rumors for years that there is a hidden agenda with SBR and they take the payment any chance they got, what would you respond SBR if certain individuals said they had proof of such?

Thank you for your time and again if I didnt respect the board I wouldnt have signed up here in the first place , I just want to get clarification for this matter since it is pretty disturbing.

[IndaKnow]

Good post...lol ...I give it an hour before Bill removes it

Of course SBR has hidden agendas. Its called advertising dollars. They either get paid their advertising dollars or an affiliate commission. If their making money they take care of you and if not...well thats what lower rankings are for..

I know this cause I am familiar with this business and a few of the operators who have dealt with them in the past.


Listen...im not trying to put down this site. Its informative and the reading the drama and bullshit helps me get through the day but the site is also biased as hell and it starts with Bill and the Moderators.

The owner/moderators for the most part are paid to watch the forum. Most do it as a side job. So what makes them an authority in the sportsbook business?

A real watchdog would have people on their staff familiar with the operations and how the departments run and would be in communication with them. Most of the books I know laugh off the site and Bill Dozer.

Obviously they want a good ranking but it aint the end of the world if they dont get it.

Hidden agenda? Absolutely

Can books prove it? Absolutely

Will this post be removed before SBR or Bill answer? Absolutely

[SSLP]

Thank you for your feedback.

My question is if Bill Dozer has a site that drives so much traffic and attention and players turn to him he could potentially make more money in the end , by playing it as more of a watchdog site than an affiliate deal.

I truly do hope this doesnt get removed since I am being as respectful as possible and do not intend to insult anyone or this site.

I just would like some clarification from the man himself.

I do think it has become biassed and one sided towards certain operations. Sometimes its pretty obvious that cash is being dealt around just by the way some sites are bashed and some are somewhat sacred .

[eyeball]

Do you both have any proof to the claims you are making? Accusations are being made with just hersay,

[SSLP]

Eyeball this is not a new story in the industry or to this site , lets just say some of us that have been around for a while in the industry know what Bill Dozer and SBR is are about I just wanna know why?

Ask ask any high ranking at any employee at a book about SBR.

And you will hear pretty much everything we just wrote.

My big thing is , why not use the traffic to something more useful?

Again this is a great site if I signed up here its because its good , ive been in this industry for close to a decade know , and until recently I decided to join to speak to Bill in a respectfull manner about this.

[SSLP]

Say.. I did have proof ?
Im not not in this to destroy anyone or a site or a personal attack .

This is just ME asking Bill a question and I like to consider myself expierenced in this industry .

[SBR Lou]

The post won't be deleted, this isn't the RX.

[Bill Dozer]

There have been rumors for years that there is a hidden agenda with SBR and they take the payment any chance they got, what would you respond SBR if certain individuals said they had proof of such?

That's right, people have been saying it for years. Sportsbook owners have been handing out scripts on how to answer the question "How come you only have a X rating on SBR?" since 2000. The sales clerks would say "because the ratings are for sale and we wouldn't pay SBR." The guy in the other room would be calling SBR trying to advertise, offering twice what a good book would because they needed it more. Not only would they get new players but they get to keep the ones who read the warnings. Find a marketer who spent a year at a BetUS, Royal or a BOS and he will tell you he/she tried.

This is just me asking a question and I like to consider myself expierenced in this industry , Bill a question.

Being in CR and questioning Bodog and especially CRIS as a top book doesn't say much for your experience. Maybe there are others that pay clerks more? What CR books are better?

Will this post be removed before SBR or Bill answer? Absolutely

Have fun in this thread. As long as you two don't pollute the other threads here you are welcome to post all you want, hi-five each other and send the links to the boss.

[Thor4140]

To me your respectful manner is a guise for an agenda. Just saying

[SBR Lou]

To me your respectful manner is a guise for an agenda. Just saying

This is the same guy who was pissed he lost his PM privileges after spamming his affiliate links...

He is a slime ball nothing more. I wouldn't trust that guy as far as I can throw him, just the other day he was talking about jacking his post count up to make the SBR bash as well. He is just some sports agent with an agenda, not somebody who actually enjoys the forum or wants to be a regular member like the rest of us.

[hawk 5]

1st two post are by the same poster.

[diogee]

I was thinking the same thing Hawk

[IndaKnow]

That's right, people have been saying it for years. Sportsbook owners have been handing out scripts on how to answer the question "How come you only have a X rating on SBR?" since 2000. The sales clerks would say "because the ratings are for sale and we wouldn't pay SBR." The guy in the other room would be calling SBR trying to advertise, offering twice what a good book would because they needed it more. Not only would they get new players but they get to keep the ones who read the warnings. Find a marketer who spent a year at a BetUS, Royal or a BOS and he will tell you he/she tried.

Being in CR and questioning Bodog and especially CRIS as a top book doesn't say much for your experience. Maybe there are others that pay clerks more? What CR books are better?


Have fun in this thread. As long as you two don't pollute the other threads here you are welcome to post all you want, hi-five each other and send the links to the boss.

Bill

That doesn't seem to really answer the question...

Obviously, SBR makes money or it couldnt operate. So where does your money come from?

It sure doesnt come from the D and F books...right?

When you give your answer there is no need to be cute. Just answer the question.

Hawk5
We are not the same person but believe what you want.

I liked his post its a question Ive wondered myself that s why i opened an account.

I would be more concerned with getting an answer to the question and the point of the thread rather than a witch hunt.

[SBR Lou]

1st two post are by the same poster.

If that's true, I'd say ban him, but then he will just say "omg I exposed Bill and then I was banned", I think the best bet is to just hope this guy goes away. Seems shady and on an agenda since he arrived here.

[IndaKnow]

If that's true, I'd say ban him, but then he will just say "omg I exposed Bill and then I was banned", I think the best bet is to just hope this guy goes away. Seems shady and on an agenda since he arrived here.

Crazy
You just got done saying it wasnt the RX

Now you want to ban posters before an answer is given.

Make up your mind..It is or isnt the new RX

You cant have it both ways

[SBR Lou]

Crazy
You just got done saying it wasnt the RX

Now you want to ban posters before an answer is given.

Make up your mind..It is or isnt the new RX

You cant have it both ways

Good thing I'm not owner of this forum, then.

I seem to have a lower tolerance for idiots with agendas than those calling the shots.

[IndaKnow]

Good thing I'm not owner of this forum, then.

I seem to have a lower tolerance for idiots with agendas than those calling the shots.

Good thing your not...

[SSLP]

That's right, people have been saying it for years. Sportsbook owners have been handing out scripts on how to answer the question "How come you only have a X rating on SBR?" since 2000. The sales clerks would say "because the ratings are for sale and we wouldn't pay SBR." The guy in the other room would be calling SBR trying to advertise, offering twice what a good book would because they needed it more. Not only would they get new players but they get to keep the ones who read the warnings. Find a marketer who spent a year at a BetUS, Royal or a BOS and he will tell you he/she tried.

Being in CR and questioning Bodog and especially CRIS as a top book doesn't say much for your experience. Maybe there are others that pay clerks more? What CR books are better?


Have fun in this thread. As long as you two don't pollute the other threads here you are welcome to post all you want, hi-five each other and send the links to the boss.

Now that I have your attention Bill..
Say I do have some proof of all this Bill. All I wanted was a simple answer for something that has been on everybodys mind here in the industry for a while.

How could I not call out a book like bodog or cris , when customers to them are just a number tally now a days.

I dare to say this site does operate on agendas and some shady ones to say the least.

You ask me which CR books are better well you seem to be the one with the axe and you sure do know about ratings , im not some loser that bets al day staring at a computer in bumb fvck im right around your corner and I honestly would like to sit down with and have a beer over this as civilized people .

I am not at all for disrespect or threats , I believe to a great level of extent you are a very smart character and like I said before this is not an attack of any sort just a discussion you could say.

Some of you like Crazyl might call me a scammer or what not but truth is I really dont expect folks to understand the inside of the industry by reading forums and betting the board every day and then they think they got the low down on everything regarding this line of business.

Crazyl I make a living off gambling as the house or by other ways.

The same for Mr.Dozer and company you on the other hand have 5000 and some more posts of complete bashing I really havent seen anything healthy or smart coming out of your posts , guys like you is why we make money so thank you.


Now Bill , you tell me why wouldnt I question a book that sends out bad checks , what is their name to big for you?

Or do you get a nice paycheck?

Cris your probably scared of them ..lol

You call out the likes of Royal , but Tej is in his own league of dumbness.

You call out Betus.com when they spend so much money in marketing that for every customer that resigns 100 sign up.

Why do this ???

Use realistic examples...

Now please answer my question

How can you prove you dont have an agenda or make money of your ratings?

Cuz I know theres proof out there and you know it.


Ill look forward to your response

[SSLP]

Have fun in this thread. As long as you two don't pollute the other threads here you are welcome to post all you want, hi-five each other and send the links to the boss.

If you wanna start getting funny ill get funny too.

Indaknow is right , how do you make money?
Is it an affiliate deal or something else.

Care to explain that?

From what I see and if we ask every other book that you send traffic to , everyone on this site is a pretty decent gambler.

No squares here so it cant be affiliates, banners..not enough money to run a site like this.

My question is simple , tell me how we know the ratings arent based on other things than operational methods?


Oh and Bill you know why BOS shut you down .. come now dont be shy

This is the same guy who was pissed he lost his PM privileges after spamming his affiliate links...

He is a slime ball nothing more. I wouldn't trust that guy as far as I can throw him, just the other day he was talking about jacking his post count up to make the SBR bash as well. He is just some sports agent with an agenda, not somebody who actually enjoys the forum or wants to be a regular member like the rest of us.

You call me a slime ball ..lol
Bring out the moderators and ask them when ONCE i put a link up?NEVER

I said I cater to gamblers in a personal level as an agent .. etc

I apologized to willie bee and that was the end of it.

And everyone knew I was joking about posting every day to go to vegas im sure there are people who do it right??

I enjoy this forum but from the likes of it you have quite the internet ego going on..

No we are not the same person and SBR knows it.. trust me they checked.

So... who was the agenda here you crazyl by obviously calling people names but thats not a surprise coming from you.

[SSLP]

Yeah I did and they never even called me to settle

[topgame85]

me either

[robzilla]

#1. how does SSLP go from being mr. threatening, and not writing in complete sentences to being serious and "i mean no disrespect" when talking to the SBR guys?

#2. im never putting any of my money in a CR book again cuz of this.