Confession: Lost $4,400 in about 7 minutes

[pico]

yeah, luck ran bad. sorry to hear that

[kiln]

sorry to hear that pal

You ******* shitstain. Why were you allowed back on this site? You ******* stiff. We thought we were rid of you, you lowlife scumsucking stiff. Pay your debts, asshole.

[DRZ]

ouch that hurts......should have had a few more smokes i guess

[Zak]

unlucky...no consolation that in the long run you'd win more than you'd lose playing like that.

[MendozaLine]

Well, thats cards/casinos for ya.

I go out to one of the indian casinos every once in a while with the intent of losing. I mean, I actually hope I lose. Because when I lose im reminded of how much I hate cards, and I normally wont go back for a while.

[OmgUrMom]

was this at a casino or an underground cardroom?

[OmgUrMom]

im guessing underground cardroom if in new york. self dealt or dealer dealt?

I would prob be a tad suspicious if that was my first hand back after a break

[Muddy]

In reality, you only lose $1000 though of your own money

still sux

lol. In reality, he lost over $4000 of his own money.

[jjgold]

Probably was rigged
This kid will do anything to bet and does not give a fuk if rigged

[darys]

sorry pat pat

[Arsenal]

Tough beat. Too bad you weren't playing at a club that offers a bad beat promotion. Lose with Aces full or better and win the jackpot. Could of got some of your money back that way.

[milwaukee mike]

im guessing underground cardroom if in new york. self dealt or dealer dealt?

I would prob be a tad suspicious if that was my first hand back after a break

i agree with this wholeheartedly
couple of fishy things about this
1) guy has quad 8s and he raises the turn? seems to me he would only do that if he knew you had aces full since you couldn't have an 8 and would fold to a raise with just aces over 8s
2) the odds of this situation are astronomical, i literally play multiple tables all day and almost never come across this stuff

[ttwarrior1]

most successful part of being a good card player is bankroll management.

[sharpcat]

First hand was tough but you were getting good value for the hand that you had.

Second hand was terrible not only did your opponent give you less than even money on your 6h-5h that has nowhere near a 50% or better chance of winning, this was a very bad call your odds of winning were no where near the price you were paying, but you came overtop of him and re-raised him. I am sure you were on tilt but in the future remember that this was an awful hand that you should have gotten away from after the raise on the flop.

[jjgold]

Guys this happens 20x a day

Giver is going to end up in A fukkin program and I night have to sponsor him,

[lonesomeloser]

go back in with a magnum and demand your money back

[rm18]

First hand was tough but you were getting good value for the hand that you had.

Second hand was terrible not only did your opponent give you less than even money on your 6h-5h that has nowhere near a 50% or better chance of winning, this was a very bad call your odds of winning were no where near the price you were paying, but you came overtop of him and re-raised him. I am sure you were on tilt but in the future remember that this was an awful hand that you should have gotten away from after the raise on the flop.

he got every cent in ahead except for the $50 preflop you are not reading it right. The other guy rivered a higher two pair.

[rm18]

i agree with this wholeheartedly
couple of fishy things about this
1) guy has quad 8s and he raises the turn? seems to me he would only do that if he knew you had aces full since you couldn't have an 8 and would fold to a raise with just aces over 8s
2) the odds of this situation are astronomical, i literally play multiple tables all day and almost never come across this stuff

I dont know AK or AQ would look pretty good there, since most would not call a raise with an 8 in their hand

[bigdog3580]

Brutal, I hate losing at poker.

[sharpcat]

he got every cent in ahead except for the $50 preflop you are not reading it right. The other guy rivered a higher two pair.

He had a 6h5h (not a very great starting hand) limps into the flop. Flop comes pairing is little 6 with a weak kicker and gives him a flush draw. Roughly $175 in the pot his opponent raises him $130 offering him 2.3-1 odds (break even % 30%) he has a 10% chance of catching another heart and his little 66 is likely already beaten and if not will likely get beat on the next two cards. OP now decides to re-raise to $300 now decreasing his odds to 2-1 (break even % 33.33%) and giving his opponent 3.5-1 odds (22%).

I am sorry but with a K showing on the board and only a 10% chance of catching his flush the OP had nowhere near having a 34% chance of winning his hand. More importantly his opponents 99 had him beat from the start outside of his 10% chance of catching his flush.

I read his post very correctly

If your odds of winning your hand are less than the break even point of the odds you or your opponent are offering yourself it is a bad bet.

[Al Masters]

His mistake had nothing to do with cards he got or didn't get.

One can't fight hard luck, losing with Aces full to quads is just plain hard luck, he played the hand the way it should of been played according to his post.

He made two mistakes, first mistake jumping into a 5-10 Nl game with a short Bankroll.luckily that mistake didn't bite him in the a.s.s.

His 2nd mistake was turning a dime into $4,400 and taking a cigarette break instead of leaving the game.

I play a ton of live poker,i see and hear it all the time guys bitching about being up money only to be down now.(they call it bad luck or running bad)

You must know when to get your a.s.s up from the table,weather you're up or down.

The OP was not content with a $3,400 pay day,he should of booked the win and returned the next day,but like so many others he didnt have the discipline or knowledge to leave at the right time, this is what separates the winning players from the wannabee players.

As JJ said in one of his posts this shit happens on a daily basis, knowing when to leave a game is crucial if you want to be a winning player.

He stayed to long and got ******,(nothing new here)it was this decision that cost him his money not pocket Aces or quad 8s or bad luck.

He should of never been there to see that hand happen,but i know he wanted to turn his $4,400 into 10k. poor thinking at a poker table.

[ZetaPsi808]

giver i know we have beef on sbr but i i can sympathize with your loss here. if i were you i would not play at that card room anymore. they could have fixed the deck and you would have never known.

[sapidoc]

He had a 6h5h (not a very great starting hand) limps into the flop. Flop comes pairing is little 6 with a weak kicker and gives him a flush draw. Roughly $175 in the pot his opponent raises him $130 offering him 2.3-1 odds (break even % 30%) he has a 10% chance of catching another heart and his little 66 is likely already beaten and if not will likely get beat on the next two cards. OP now decides to re-raise to $300 now decreasing his odds to 2-1 (break even % 33.33%) and giving his opponent 3.5-1 odds (22%). I am sorry but with a K showing on the board and only a 10% chance of catching his flush the OP had nowhere near having a 34% chance of winning his hand. More importantly his opponents 99 had him beat from the start outside of his 10% chance of catching his flush. I read his post very correctly If your odds of winning your hand are less than the break even point of the odds you or your opponent are offering yourself it is a bad bet.

Implied Odds.

[OmgUrMom]

He had a 6h5h (not a very great starting hand) limps into the flop. Flop comes pairing is little 6 with a weak kicker and gives him a flush draw. Roughly $175 in the pot his opponent raises him $130 offering him 2.3-1 odds (break even % 30%) he has a 10% chance of catching another heart and his little 66 is likely already beaten and if not will likely get beat on the next two cards. OP now decides to re-raise to $300 now decreasing his odds to 2-1 (break even % 33.33%) and giving his opponent 3.5-1 odds (22%).

I am sorry but with a K showing on the board and only a 10% chance of catching his flush the OP had nowhere near having a 34% chance of winning his hand. More importantly his opponents 99 had him beat from the start outside of his 10% chance of catching his flush.

I read his post very correctly

If your odds of winning your hand are less than the break even point of the odds you or your opponent are offering yourself it is a bad bet.

so much fail in one post, truly amazing

[Keelo]

Play enough cards and you will see everything. I am sure you have been on the other side of situations like this.

[sharpcat]

so much fail in one post, truly amazing

Please elaborate

[sapidoc]

Please elaborate

Dude, just read it again. Like even the math is not right.

[ngates815]

Play enough cards and you will see everything. I am sure you have been on the other side of situations like this.

I have...Pocket Q's...other guy had AK

Flop QQK. I check, he bets I call.
Turn J ....I bet, he re-raises I call.
River A.....I bet sorta big...he re raises me all in...I call.

I won 910...I only had 450, so that's the best I could do. Was still fun even though it wasn't for thousands.


Worst beat ever was I had straight flush, the other guy had royal flush all on the Flop. Lost 200 since that's all I had in my full tilt.

[P.F.Kasooff]

"That's poker, folks" Doyle Brunson claims that AA will win a lot of small pots but will lose the big ones. Or something like that.

[sharpcat]

Dude, just read it again. Like even the math is not right.

Do you guys truly feel that he was justified making the call on the flop with a K on the board with nothing but a pair of 6's and a flush draw that only has a 10% chance of hitting.

Please show me the true math

Anybody can sit there and say the math is wrong but please prove your claim

[boneheaded1]

You failed two of the lines from the Kenny Roger's song.

You didn't know when to walk away.
You didn't know when to fold 'em.

How often at a table do you go 4x your buy in? That's auto-walk as far as I'm concerned (my auto walk is 3x). Even in a dream table of idiots you'll take a bad beat then go on tilt.

I suspect you were on tilt when you called with the 6,5 hearts. Sure I call a 1x raise if I'm in the BB but fold when the K shows up and someone bets. Even with a flush draw, because your flush is only a 6 high.

I play cards frequently and have taken more than my fair share of bad beats so I know what you're saying and feel you dude. But you need to learn to walk away when you are 3x your buy in. And if you don't, then get REAL tight. Cracked AA happens. But the second hand was all your fault. Yeah you had two pair but you were tempting the poker godz by even being in the hand at that point.

But don't listen to me. If I was a better poker player, I wouldn't be betting on sports, I'd be raking more pots.

[sapidoc]

Do you guys truly feel that he was justified making the call on the flop with a K on the board with nothing but a pair of 6's and a flush draw that only has a 10% chance of hitting. Please show me the true math Anybody can sit there and say the math is wrong but please prove your claim

LOL, I assume u are just joking with us now. How about you show us how you calculated a 10% chance of hitting the flush draw.

[sapidoc]

... If I was a better poker player, I wouldn't be betting on sports, I'd be raking more pots.

How well you do usually depends a little on the people at the table. If you're winning you should probably stay around, if you're losing then leave. As long as you are not tired and playing your best then stick around at a game you can beat. Winning 3x should not be a cue to leave unless you are sitting down with too much $ to start with and playing above your bankroll. I wouldn't want to risk losing more than 10% at a given table session, but if 3x takes you to over 10% then maybe try a smaller game.

[sharpcat]

LOL, I assume u are just joking with us now. How about you show us how you calculated a 10% chance of hitting the flush draw.

I apologize for I am not a die hard card player I do not care to waste my life sitting at a card table 8 hours a day I prefer sports and horse wagering. the odds of him catching his flush on the turn card are actually 19% I apologize for not getting my calculator out before posting. None the less he still made a -EV play.

flush-19%
trip 6's- 4%
2 pair- 6.5%
combined- 29.5%

So when he gave himself 2-1 after the flop by re-raising his opponent he still at best only had a 29.5% chance of winning a bet that he needs to win 33.33%. A -EV of 11.5% and this is not assuming the possibility of his opponent improving his hand on the turn.

Please show me your math on how this is a +EV play re-raising on the flop with a pair of 6's and a flush draw with a king on the board????????????

[EDDIE MONEY LINE]

Next time, when up 4k... take a weed break and go home.

Precisely...Cigs kill