NCAAB Coach of the Year, who deserves it?

Panic · 03-10-08, 09:50 AM

Rick Barnes will be up there. I think he has done a great job after losing Durant.

LT Profits · 03-10-08, 10:22 AM

I think Davis should be a slam dunk. Drake wasn't even picked to finish in top half of MVC.

Honorable Mention goes to Matt Painter.

mofome · 03-10-08, 11:53 AM

Bruce Pearl honorable mention.

jjgold · 03-10-08, 11:56 AM

UConn coach

LT Profits · 03-10-08, 01:27 PM

mofome,

The thing there is though that Tennessee was SUPPOSED to be good. I think you could coach them and they would win just as many games. Davis and Painter got the most out of young and limited talent.

Sportsgirl · 03-10-08, 01:31 PM

There are many teams that are "supposed" to be good, but never get to No. 1 in the nation. While this honor was short-lived for Tenn, it was still its first-ever appearance there and worthy at least of honorable mention.

MJFtheGenius · 03-10-08, 01:32 PM

Roy Williams, Yea they are talented and were supposed to be good but who recruited the players......Roy Williams.

mofome · 03-10-08, 01:32 PM

Originally posted by LT Profits

mofome,

The thing there is though that Tennessee was SUPPOSED to be good. I think you could coach them and they would win just as many games. Davis and Painter got the most out of young and limited talent.

I'm not sure if i could have gotten them to 28-3 vs. the toughest schedule in the nation, but perhaps. Lofton had no major D-1 offers, though he was good before pearl got there, and Jujaun was a walk on when he joined the team. its not as if hes running around with AAs like duke, unc, kn, ucla.

Willie Bee · 03-10-08, 01:32 PM

Ok, I understand the notion of favoring a coach with a smaller program who does well. But that shouldn't be the foremost criteria for this thing. If you're picking Drake because the preseason ranking had them low, then that's saying you believe the job done by the 'experts' with those rankings was spot-on and Davis was able to motivate Drake to overachieve. But at the same time, you can't say that was the case in the preseason then blast the current ranking because, for example, you don't think Duke is now a Top 10 team.

MJFtheGenius · 03-10-08, 01:33 PM

coach K has gotten alot out of his Duke team as well

2Pac · 03-10-08, 01:35 PM

Originally posted by MJFtheGenius

coach K has gotten alot out of his Duke team as well

I second that.

Talent wise, this is one of K's worst teams.

mofome · 03-10-08, 01:42 PM

Originally posted by 2Pac

I second that.

Talent wise, this is one of K's worst teams.

factually, that's not correct.

Paulus - 5 star
Zoubek - 5 star
Singler - 5 star
Nelson - 5 star
Henderson - 5 star
Scheyer - 4 star
Thomas - 4 star
smith - 4 star (top 40 recruit nationally)
king - 4 star (top 40 recruit nationally)

yeah, i cant believe he could win with that talent.

Sportsgirl · 03-10-08, 01:45 PM

Originally posted by MJFtheGenius

coach K has gotten alot out of his Duke team as well

Krzyzewski has been at Duke for 27 years, is a Hall of Fame coach and 12-time National Coach of the Year. Of course he's gonna get a lot out his team.

LT Profits · 03-10-08, 01:49 PM

Willie Bee,

Bite me!

Ok, take the pre-season rankings and the pollsters out of the discussion entirely, and I still stand by my statements.

Drake has limited talent, yet they may be the most fundamentally sound team in the country and I doubt that any coach coud have gotten any more out of them than Davis did. As for Duke, they have had too many defensive lapses vs. suspect competiton on the road, and with no inside presence they are very vulnberable when they're not hitting their 3s.

thegreatdiatchi · 03-10-08, 01:57 PM

Billy Gillispie. No one thought Kentucky was going to be solid this year. They definitely stepped it up 2nd half.

My other choice would be Mike Brey from ND. They were supposed to be pretty good but not this good.

Willie Bee · 03-10-08, 02:05 PM

Originally posted by LT Profits

Willie Bee,

Bite me!

All I'm saying, LT, is if the pollsters are so wrong about Duke, as you say they are, then those preseason rankings might have been just as wrong about Drake. Either way, I'd give it to Bobby Knight every year

mofome · 03-10-08, 02:05 PM

Originally posted by thegreatdiatchi

Billy Gillispie. No one thought Kentucky was going to be solid this year. They definitely stepped it up 2nd half.

My other choice would be Mike Brey from ND. They were supposed to be pretty good but not this good.

ah yes, no one thought Kentucky was going to be solid, yet they were ranked 20th in the AP and 22nd in the Coaches preseason poll and now they're not ranked in either. Thats quite a job. Billy it is.

Sportsgirl · 03-10-08, 02:06 PM

Originally posted by LT Profits

Bite me!

LT, there is a rental fee for using my line.

thegreatdiatchi · 03-10-08, 04:25 PM

That's what I get for only paying attention to baskets when tourney time is near. Without looking at pre-season polls I thought Kentucky was supposed to be dog shit without Tubby. Didn't know that them stepping up recently is just them playing like they were supposed to be playing all year.

Seeing this I guess I'll stick with my ND guy and shut up.

mofome · 03-10-08, 04:26 PM

Originally posted by thegreatdiatchi

That's what I get for only paying attention to baskets when tourney time is near. Without looking at pre-season polls I thought Kentucky was supposed to be dog shit without Tubby. Didn't know that them stepping up recently is just them playing like they were supposed to be playing all year.

Seeing this I guess I'll stick with my ND guy and shut up.

well, they fired Tubby, it's not as if he just left the team. Kentucky started off very poorly and therefore a lit of people are mentioning Billy boy for COY, i think its laughable.

BadNina · 03-10-08, 04:29 PM

Pat Summit until she retires.

the end.

mofome · 03-10-08, 04:34 PM

Originally posted by BadNina

Pat Summit until she retires.

the end.

EaglesPhan36 · 03-10-08, 04:42 PM

Top 3: Keno Davis [Drake], Mike Brey [Notre Dame], Bob McKilop [Davidson]

BadNina · 03-10-08, 04:43 PM

Originally posted by mofome

We Alabama fans know a great coach when we see one and she is one. She can outcoach a lot of men.

The HG · 03-10-08, 04:57 PM

I'm not sure how to judge a college hoops coach, I always thought recruiting ability was the most important factor for a college coach, or maybe a coach who set up a good system and was good at finding guys who would be good for that system.

But I'd say Gillespie is looking pretty good, especially if Kentucky upsets and wins the SEC tourney. Isn't "turning around a ship" one of the hallmarks of a good coach? Also, Kentucky lost Patrick Patterson, their top rebounder and second-leading scorer, and didn't seem to miss a beat. They almost beat Tennessee on the road, got a road win and then a home win against Florida. Isn't that a sign of a good program or a good system?

BuddyBear · 03-10-08, 05:01 PM

Keno Davis, Matt Painter, Randy Bennet (up until last night at least), Kent State coach, Rick Pitno, and Davidson coach.

mofome · 03-10-08, 05:02 PM

Originally posted by The HG

I'm not sure how to judge a college hoops coach, I always thought recruiting ability was the most important factor for a college coach, or maybe a coach who set up a good system and was good at finding guys who would be good for that system.

But I'd say Gillespie is looking pretty good, especially if Kentucky upsets and wins the SEC tourney. Isn't "turning around a ship" one of the hallmarks of a good coach? Also, Kentucky lost Patrick Patterson, their top rebounder and second-leading scorer, and didn't seem to miss a beat. They almost beat Tennessee on the road, got a road win and then a home win against Florida. Isn't that a sign of a good program or a good system?

If you start the season ranked, and then end up unranked, i don't see how you can give a guy COY. you can make some arguments that he made some decent moves, but to single him out as the #1 coach in the land seems like a bit of a reach. Hes at Kentucky and sitting on the bubble.

thegreatdiatchi · 03-10-08, 05:07 PM

Summit is amazing.