Are you referring to the Eagles game with the hit just now? I thought it was clean i agree but i do feel bad for Collie .
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freeVICK
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01-21-08
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#4
what a load of crap. walk that shit off
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jgray
SBR MVP
09-06-09
3599
#5
Two things.
One, there was no helmet to helmet hit. It was shoulder to helmet.
Two, QUIT RUNNING THAT ROUTE IF YOU DON'T WANT TO GET HURT.
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Brock Landers
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06-30-08
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#6
guy was hit totally legally, they have ruined their own game. should be 2 hand touch now
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seaborneq
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09-08-06
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#7
That is the softest hit i have ever seen anyone leave on a stretcher.
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jgray
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09-06-09
3599
#8
Originally posted by jgray
Two things. One, there was no helmet to helmet hit. It was shoulder to helmet. Two, QUIT RUNNING THAT ROUTE IF YOU DON'T WANT TO GET HURT.
And then they go and run the same ******* route.
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seaborneq
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09-08-06
22556
#9
Great play by the Eagles. Let them score so the refs arm won't cramp up from pulling the flag out of his pocket. Give that arm a break.
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jagaf22
SBR MVP
01-22-08
2932
#10
Originally posted by pozzy
helmet to helmet dude..
All the replays I saw were shoulder. Every week the league gets a little softer.
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seaborneq
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09-08-06
22556
#11
Originally posted by Brock Landers
guy was hit totally legally, they have ruined their own game. should be 2 hand touch now
Collie is soft if that knocked him out and he left on a stretcher. Vick was hit the same way against the Skins and walked off with broken ribs.
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The Bet Master
SBR MVP
09-29-10
2665
#12
Originally posted by pozzy
helmet to helmet dude..
Yeah after the initial hit he flew into Kurt Colemans helmet. That's not a penalty...
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KKoz9
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09-07-06
1982
#13
was helmet to helmet
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captrobey
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09-02-10
34395
#14
Brock lol Two hand touch. I can see that and still see them throwing flags for touching too hard .
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jgray
SBR MVP
09-06-09
3599
#15
Originally posted by KKoz9
was helmet to helmet
You can keep saying it but it won't make it true.
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TexansFan
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09-06-06
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#16
I agree with throwing a flag for helmet to helmet, however, I strongly disagree with that call. It's one thing to launch yourself into the guy's head, or to lead with your head and hit the receiver, but how about when the receiver is hit and he bends over while falling?
The receiver was hit and he started falling forward. How is the defensive player supposed to avoid that?
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itchypickle
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11-05-09
21452
#17
People forget...DBs can be injured as well....hard to pull up from full speed and not injure yourself also...not defending the helmet leading aspect...but when you simply lower your shoulder to brace for impact..I can't see being flagged for it.
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sharpcat
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12-19-09
4516
#18
I sure hope that they never start using bigger helmets it will be impossible to tackle somebody without your helmet bumping into anthers helmet.
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KKoz9
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09-07-06
1982
#19
Originally posted by jgray
You can keep saying it but it won't make it true.
Just open your eyes idiot!
What do you think knocked him out? Flatulence?
I have no agenda here.
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jgray
SBR MVP
09-06-09
3599
#20
Originally posted by KKoz9
Just open your eyes idiot! What do you think knocked him out? Flatulence? I have no agenda here.
I recommend you open those same eyes you are talking about.
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TexansFan
SBR MVP
09-06-06
3367
#21
Of course it was helmet to helmet. There is intentional and accidental though. Refs are over reacting now with these calls.
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KKoz9
SBR MVP
09-07-06
1982
#22
Originally posted by jgray
I recommend you open those same eyes you are talking about.
smoke some more, it was #42
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sharpcat
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12-19-09
4516
#23
Bill cowher and Boomer esiason and Sterling sharpe all agree this was no penalty.
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sharpcat
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12-19-09
4516
#24
Add Dan Marino to that list also.
No penalty
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QuantumLeap
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08-22-08
6898
#25
Originally posted by TexansFan
I agree with throwing a flag for helmet to helmet, however, I strongly disagree with that call. It's one thing to launch yourself into the guy's head, or to lead with your head and hit the receiver, but how about when the receiver is hit and he bends over while falling?
The receiver was hit and he started falling forward. How is the defensive player supposed to avoid that?
This is exactly right. It's not defenseless receiver if he's already been hit once by the shoulder pads of another defender.
I hope the Philly fans start throwing batteries at the refs.
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philswin
SBR MVP
04-18-07
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#26
Bad call refs over-react
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QuantumLeap
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08-22-08
6898
#27
Originally posted by philswin
Bad call refs over-react
I'm guessing he saw the receiver go down after the hit and like you say over-reacted to the receiver going down.
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KKoz9
SBR MVP
09-07-06
1982
#28
I don't agree either, but change the rule, don't bitch about the refs. Intention is irrelevant.
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sharpcat
Restricted User
12-19-09
4516
#29
Originally posted by KKoz9
I don't agree either, but change the rule, don't bitch about the refs. Intention is irrelevant.
Has nothing to do with the rules this was a bad call the ref did not even throw the flag until after the play and he saw Collie was hurt.
You can not penalize a team for injuring a player.
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THE PROFIT
SBR Posting Legend
11-27-09
17701
#30
its hard not to at least call a penalty when someone is obviously knocked out. He was motionless before he hit the ground, he was fukin asleep.
But, it was incidental contact. There should be no fines for damn sure
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seaborneq
SBR Posting Legend
09-08-06
22556
#31
So everyone should start faking injuries I guess. Collie's hit was fair everyday of the week. Collie is just soft.
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sharpcat
Restricted User
12-19-09
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#32
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itchypickle
SBR Posting Legend
11-05-09
21452
#33
League is going overboard with the calls this year to pamper the players union in hopes of positioning for the off season negotiations about possibility of trouble next season
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jgray
SBR MVP
09-06-09
3599
#34
Originally posted by KKoz9
smoke some more, it was #42
Look at Sharpcat's video. You are wrong. Toke up bud.
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KKoz9
SBR MVP
09-07-06
1982
#35
Originally posted by jgray
Look at Sharpcat's video. You are wrong. Toke up bud.
You are honestly convinced that #42's helmet did not contact Collie's? Really?
Austin Collie 'Sitting Up And Is Alert' In Colts Locker Room, Says Bill Polian
Nov 07 6:16p by Andy Hutchins
Upon returning to the CBS broadcast in the second half, Jim Nantz informed viewers that Colts president Bill Polian told CBS that receiver Austin Collie is in the Colts locker room, is "sitting up and is alert," and is believed by Colts officials to have only a concussion.
That would be a best-case scenario after the big hit that Collie took in the second quarter of today's Eagles-Colts game; in the immediate wake of the hit, it appeared that Collie could have been paralyzed. (Watch video of the hit here.)
At halftime, CBS analyst Bill Cowher said that he spoke with the NFL office about Collie's hit. The NFL told Cowher that while Quintin Mikell's first hit on Collie was legal, the second hit by Kurt Coleman was a helmet-to-helmet hit that necessitated a penalty for unnecessary roughness.
Obviously, Collie's return for this game is out of the question. But it appears he will not require hospitalization.
a defensive player is prohibited from launching (spring forward and upward) into him in a way that causes the defensive player's helmet, facemask, shoulder, or forearm to forcibly strike the receiver's head or neck area -- even if the initial contact of the defender's helmet, facemask, shoulder or forearm is lower than the receiver's neck.