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  • seaborneq
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 09-08-06
    • 22556

    #1
    Defenseless receiver???
    Put them on skirts.
  • pozzy
    SBR Wise Guy
    • 07-02-09
    • 507

    #2
    helmet to helmet dude..
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    • captrobey
      BARRELED IN @ SBR!
      • 09-02-10
      • 34395

      #3
      Are you referring to the Eagles game with the hit just now? I thought it was clean i agree but i do feel bad for Collie .
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      • freeVICK
        SBR Hall of Famer
        • 01-21-08
        • 7114

        #4
        what a load of crap. walk that shit off
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        • jgray
          SBR MVP
          • 09-06-09
          • 3599

          #5
          Two things.

          One, there was no helmet to helmet hit. It was shoulder to helmet.

          Two, QUIT RUNNING THAT ROUTE IF YOU DON'T WANT TO GET HURT.
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          • Brock Landers
            SBR Aristocracy
            • 06-30-08
            • 45367

            #6
            guy was hit totally legally, they have ruined their own game. should be 2 hand touch now
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            • seaborneq
              SBR Posting Legend
              • 09-08-06
              • 22556

              #7
              That is the softest hit i have ever seen anyone leave on a stretcher.
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              • jgray
                SBR MVP
                • 09-06-09
                • 3599

                #8
                Originally posted by jgray
                Two things. One, there was no helmet to helmet hit. It was shoulder to helmet. Two, QUIT RUNNING THAT ROUTE IF YOU DON'T WANT TO GET HURT.
                And then they go and run the same ******* route.
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                • seaborneq
                  SBR Posting Legend
                  • 09-08-06
                  • 22556

                  #9
                  Great play by the Eagles. Let them score so the refs arm won't cramp up from pulling the flag out of his pocket. Give that arm a break.
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                  • jagaf22
                    SBR MVP
                    • 01-22-08
                    • 2932

                    #10
                    Originally posted by pozzy
                    helmet to helmet dude..
                    All the replays I saw were shoulder. Every week the league gets a little softer.
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                    • seaborneq
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                      • 09-08-06
                      • 22556

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Brock Landers
                      guy was hit totally legally, they have ruined their own game. should be 2 hand touch now
                      Collie is soft if that knocked him out and he left on a stretcher. Vick was hit the same way against the Skins and walked off with broken ribs.
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                      • The Bet Master
                        SBR MVP
                        • 09-29-10
                        • 2665

                        #12
                        Originally posted by pozzy
                        helmet to helmet dude..
                        Yeah after the initial hit he flew into Kurt Colemans helmet. That's not a penalty...
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                        • KKoz9
                          SBR MVP
                          • 09-07-06
                          • 1982

                          #13
                          was helmet to helmet
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                          • captrobey
                            BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                            • 09-02-10
                            • 34395

                            #14
                            Brock lol Two hand touch. I can see that and still see them throwing flags for touching too hard .
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                            • jgray
                              SBR MVP
                              • 09-06-09
                              • 3599

                              #15
                              Originally posted by KKoz9
                              was helmet to helmet
                              You can keep saying it but it won't make it true.
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                              • TexansFan
                                SBR MVP
                                • 09-06-06
                                • 3367

                                #16
                                I agree with throwing a flag for helmet to helmet, however, I strongly disagree with that call. It's one thing to launch yourself into the guy's head, or to lead with your head and hit the receiver, but how about when the receiver is hit and he bends over while falling?

                                The receiver was hit and he started falling forward. How is the defensive player supposed to avoid that?
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                                • itchypickle
                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                  • 11-05-09
                                  • 21452

                                  #17
                                  People forget...DBs can be injured as well....hard to pull up from full speed and not injure yourself also...not defending the helmet leading aspect...but when you simply lower your shoulder to brace for impact..I can't see being flagged for it.
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                                  • sharpcat
                                    Restricted User
                                    • 12-19-09
                                    • 4516

                                    #18
                                    I sure hope that they never start using bigger helmets it will be impossible to tackle somebody without your helmet bumping into anthers helmet.
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                                    • KKoz9
                                      SBR MVP
                                      • 09-07-06
                                      • 1982

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by jgray
                                      You can keep saying it but it won't make it true.


                                      Just open your eyes idiot!


                                      What do you think knocked him out? Flatulence?


                                      I have no agenda here.
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                                      • jgray
                                        SBR MVP
                                        • 09-06-09
                                        • 3599

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by KKoz9
                                        Just open your eyes idiot! What do you think knocked him out? Flatulence? I have no agenda here.
                                        I recommend you open those same eyes you are talking about.
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                                        • TexansFan
                                          SBR MVP
                                          • 09-06-06
                                          • 3367

                                          #21
                                          Of course it was helmet to helmet. There is intentional and accidental though. Refs are over reacting now with these calls.
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                                          • KKoz9
                                            SBR MVP
                                            • 09-07-06
                                            • 1982

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by jgray
                                            I recommend you open those same eyes you are talking about.

                                            smoke some more, it was #42
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                                            • sharpcat
                                              Restricted User
                                              • 12-19-09
                                              • 4516

                                              #23
                                              Bill cowher and Boomer esiason and Sterling sharpe all agree this was no penalty.
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                                              • sharpcat
                                                Restricted User
                                                • 12-19-09
                                                • 4516

                                                #24
                                                Add Dan Marino to that list also.

                                                No penalty
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                                                • QuantumLeap
                                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                                  • 08-22-08
                                                  • 6898

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by TexansFan
                                                  I agree with throwing a flag for helmet to helmet, however, I strongly disagree with that call. It's one thing to launch yourself into the guy's head, or to lead with your head and hit the receiver, but how about when the receiver is hit and he bends over while falling?

                                                  The receiver was hit and he started falling forward. How is the defensive player supposed to avoid that?
                                                  This is exactly right. It's not defenseless receiver if he's already been hit once by the shoulder pads of another defender.

                                                  I hope the Philly fans start throwing batteries at the refs.
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                                                  • philswin
                                                    SBR MVP
                                                    • 04-18-07
                                                    • 1279

                                                    #26
                                                    Bad call refs over-react
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                                                    • QuantumLeap
                                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                                      • 08-22-08
                                                      • 6898

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by philswin
                                                      Bad call refs over-react
                                                      I'm guessing he saw the receiver go down after the hit and like you say over-reacted to the receiver going down.
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                                                      • KKoz9
                                                        SBR MVP
                                                        • 09-07-06
                                                        • 1982

                                                        #28
                                                        I don't agree either, but change the rule, don't bitch about the refs. Intention is irrelevant.
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                                                        • sharpcat
                                                          Restricted User
                                                          • 12-19-09
                                                          • 4516

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by KKoz9
                                                          I don't agree either, but change the rule, don't bitch about the refs. Intention is irrelevant.
                                                          Has nothing to do with the rules this was a bad call the ref did not even throw the flag until after the play and he saw Collie was hurt.

                                                          You can not penalize a team for injuring a player.
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                                                          • THE PROFIT
                                                            SBR Posting Legend
                                                            • 11-27-09
                                                            • 17701

                                                            #30
                                                            its hard not to at least call a penalty when someone is obviously knocked out. He was motionless before he hit the ground, he was fukin asleep.

                                                            But, it was incidental contact. There should be no fines for damn sure
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                                                            • seaborneq
                                                              SBR Posting Legend
                                                              • 09-08-06
                                                              • 22556

                                                              #31
                                                              So everyone should start faking injuries I guess. Collie's hit was fair everyday of the week. Collie is just soft.
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                                                              • sharpcat
                                                                Restricted User
                                                                • 12-19-09
                                                                • 4516

                                                                #32
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                                                                • itchypickle
                                                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                                                  • 11-05-09
                                                                  • 21452

                                                                  #33
                                                                  League is going overboard with the calls this year to pamper the players union in hopes of positioning for the off season negotiations about possibility of trouble next season
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                                                                  • jgray
                                                                    SBR MVP
                                                                    • 09-06-09
                                                                    • 3599

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by KKoz9
                                                                    smoke some more, it was #42
                                                                    Look at Sharpcat's video. You are wrong. Toke up bud.
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                                                                    • KKoz9
                                                                      SBR MVP
                                                                      • 09-07-06
                                                                      • 1982

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by jgray
                                                                      Look at Sharpcat's video. You are wrong. Toke up bud.


                                                                      You are honestly convinced that #42's helmet did not contact Collie's? Really?


                                                                      Austin Collie 'Sitting Up And Is Alert' In Colts Locker Room, Says Bill Polian

                                                                      Nov 07 6:16p by Andy Hutchins
                                                                      Upon returning to the CBS broadcast in the second half, Jim Nantz informed viewers that Colts president Bill Polian told CBS that receiver Austin Collie is in the Colts locker room, is "sitting up and is alert," and is believed by Colts officials to have only a concussion.
                                                                      That would be a best-case scenario after the big hit that Collie took in the second quarter of today's Eagles-Colts game; in the immediate wake of the hit, it appeared that Collie could have been paralyzed. (Watch video of the hit here.)
                                                                      At halftime, CBS analyst Bill Cowher said that he spoke with the NFL office about Collie's hit. The NFL told Cowher that while Quintin Mikell's first hit on Collie was legal, the second hit by Kurt Coleman was a helmet-to-helmet hit that necessitated a penalty for unnecessary roughness.
                                                                      Obviously, Collie's return for this game is out of the question. But it appears he will not require hospitalization.




                                                                      a defensive player is prohibited from launching (spring forward and upward) into him in a way that causes the defensive player's helmet, facemask, shoulder, or forearm to forcibly strike the receiver's head or neck area -- even if the initial contact of the defender's helmet, facemask, shoulder or forearm is lower than the receiver's neck.


                                                                      Roll another one.
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